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Jamaal Charles (1 Viewer)
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where else are they supposed to put them? And radio here is reporting he's done for the year, but aren't being specific as to the injury.
sports_fan
Footballguy
I just saw the Youtube video posted above and thought the same thing. It looked ugly because he was off-balance and running full speed but I didn't see enough to suggest a serious injury. It looked like his knee gave out and it may have scared him more than anything if hes never experienced something like that before. Didn't look like he completely blew it out or anything though. I'd be mildly surprised if he tore any ligaments.
Das Boot
Footballguy
His best hope IMO, is if he has only an MCL injury.The knee wobble spoke volumes.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Chiefs suspect torn ACL, MRI tomorrow. Per Schefter
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Chiefs season getting worse and worse.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
McCluster owners will scream for him but Thomas Jones will likely shoulder the load for better or worse.
So who do you want? Jones, McClain, or McCluster?
Jones looks done to me. He may get the carries the next couple weeks, but I don't think he has the quickness anymore. McCluster will get points a la a Woodhead, but he won't get more than 5-10 carries a game, so that leaves room for someone else to have a role. McClain is an interesting play. I seem to remember him indicating he signed with the Chiefs because they told him he'd get more offensive opportunities. He got a few carries today and looked ok. That might be the guy to stash out of this mess.
Jones looks done to me. He may get the carries the next couple weeks, but I don't think he has the quickness anymore. McCluster will get points a la a Woodhead, but he won't get more than 5-10 carries a game, so that leaves room for someone else to have a role. McClain is an interesting play. I seem to remember him indicating he signed with the Chiefs because they told him he'd get more offensive opportunities. He got a few carries today and looked ok. That might be the guy to stash out of this mess.
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VaTerp
Footballguy
McCluster owner here. He will see more touches no doubt but I don't see anyway that he could handle more than 10-12 carries a game. If he could get around that and expected work in the passing game he becomes a solid PPR flex option IMO.Jones looks to be the main ball carrier but the way this KC team has looked I'm tempering my expectations for everyone on that team.
VaTerp
Footballguy
Team ROFLCOPTERS
Footballguy
Wow. Nevermind fantasy football. Having that guy miss the year is just bad for the sport I love. The Chiefs are a black eye in the NFL thus far as it is. Without Charles and you have the leading contenders for Andrew Luck draft pick.
Ted Lange as your Bartender
Footballguy
Brian Westbrook to the white courtesy phone
kneeunthaface
Footballguy
Torn ACL per Schefty.
ThePittbully
Footballguy
At least I own McCluster, with Chiefs losing every game he should at least be a decent ppr flex
Shutout
Footballguy
No, he was complaining in Baltimore but when he arrived in KC he said his job was just to block or whatever...Of course, he probably WILL get more touches now.As far as a KC RB to own: I am going with none of the above. THis teams is spiraling. Cassell looks to be in a state of shock.
Charles long -term, I think I'm off the train. An ACL to a guy whose game is based on speed is a bad combo. I think its 2013 if ever we see Charles being Charles again. Terrible injury in real life and Fantasy
Chimp Magnet
Footballguy
I'm glad that if it was going to happen it happened early in the season. Gives him a massive amount of recovery time.
MSULions
Footballguy
we'll see him next year.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Depends...if he tore everything then maybe 2013 b4 he is 100%. His dynasty value just evaporated.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
Very unlikely. If he was a "power" back, maybe he'd be a good bounceback candidate for 2012. But for a guy who relies on speed and elusiveness, you're really looking at 2013 before he's back to form. Maybe late 2012 if everything goes well.Edited to remove the "very." If it's just one tendon, maybe he's ready to go by week 1 next year, but that's still not something you should plan on as a dynasty owner. I agree with MOP that his value just dropped through the floor, so if you own him, you might as well hang on to him and see how it goes.
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I guess the point is if we can safely assume McCluster, while he'll have an enhanced role, isn't capable of shouldering feature back carries and is more built as a swing guy in the passing game with occasional change of pace rushes, then there's 15-20 carries a game that will be going to either Jones or McClain or some combination of the two. McClain may be worth a stash. Less talented backs have done more with an opportunity to get legit carries (i.e. Benjarvus Green-Ellis, Earnest Graham).
Team ROFLCOPTERS
Footballguy
So I had a trade that went through yesterday in my dynasty league where I traded Charles and Dallas Clark for Ingram, TB Mike Williams, Jimmy Graham and Cam Newton. I was retooling. Now the owner is going behind my back and saying there has been a precident set 5 years ago that when a player gets injured right after an injury the commish has reversed the trade. He's threatening to leave the league and take a couple memebers with him. I was not in the league then, and all but four long time members never heard of this rule. It's not even a rule. I can't believe there is a chance for this to get overruled after the trade has been processed.
It should be told that the guy played both of these players in his lineup today.
It should be told that the guy played both of these players in his lineup today.
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Unwrittenlaw
Footballguy
KC will draft a RB next year guaranteed.
aardball44
Footballguy
The guy is trying to rescind a trade, even though he started those players he traded for?
How long are you supposed to warranty your his players?
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If he tries this, ask for your money back and never look back. That's incredibly dumb.
Hoss_Cartwright
Footballguy
That has to be the dumbest thing I've ever read on this board. Please direct this guy to this thread so we can have a few words with him. Anyone that makes a trade only to be unlucky enough to have those players get hurt, has to realize that it is just part of the game of fantasy football.
ponchsox
Footballguy
Let him leave. You're better off without him. And why on earth would other owners leave? Does he have pictures of them doing terrible things to a goat?
hauser42
Footballguy
Really sucks for Charles and hope he gets back to health quickly.
I have Mcluster in the subscriber contest so hoping he gets a bump and looked at him as a pickup last week for a flex option. Dont think I will get him this week because someone should be grabbing him.
IMO Bowe will get a bump here and maybe another WR. Chiefs will have to throw the ball to win a couple games this year. Jones looks really poor and teams wont respect him very long, this coming from a Jones owner.
I have Mcluster in the subscriber contest so hoping he gets a bump and looked at him as a pickup last week for a flex option. Dont think I will get him this week because someone should be grabbing him.
IMO Bowe will get a bump here and maybe another WR. Chiefs will have to throw the ball to win a couple games this year. Jones looks really poor and teams wont respect him very long, this coming from a Jones owner.
nicholasngn
Footballguy
Wow this guy is a tool. Tell him to shove his head where the sun don't shine if the commish reverse the trade. Commish should never interfere unless there's evidence of collusion but this case is not even close. I lost Gore last year, and lost MJD in the playoff last year. It's all luck sometimes. Hope the commish do the right thing. Good luck!
montanagold
Footballguy
No doubt that Thomas Jones is the man. While McCluster is explosive he just wasn't designed to carry the load. I think McClain may get some goal line carries, but with Cassel ailing and looking rocked look for the vet Thomas Jones to have to earn his money and help solidify the the offense. I'd go out and grab Jones now.. run, don't walk. He has done the best Curtis Martin impersonation I've seen. I don't know what they have on their practice squad, but I'd say look for the Chiefs to dial up the Cowboys. My guess is Tashard might be another horse in the stable for KC and they will sign/draft RB next year.
Kind of from the gut here are my top-end initial thoughts:
Moderate TJ projections to finish with 900 Rushing and 8TD. 200 Receiving 1 TD.
McCluster 300 rushing 1TD and 400 Receiving 3TD
McClain 250 rushing 5TD
Kind of from the gut here are my top-end initial thoughts:
Moderate TJ projections to finish with 900 Rushing and 8TD. 200 Receiving 1 TD.
McCluster 300 rushing 1TD and 400 Receiving 3TD
McClain 250 rushing 5TD
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ponchsox
Footballguy
Would Battle be in the mix?
Young 8
Footballguy
Banger
Footballguy
he's awful...problem is they are gonna be so bad this year, I don't think any RB they have will have value this year.
JuSt CuZ
Footballguy
LOL, you must own TJ.
Banger
Footballguy
lol, 16 tds....they may not get that as a team between passing and rushing. I need to start smoking some of that montanagold...must be sweet.
Max Maximus
Footballguy
The last RB I can remember who tore his ACL was Willis McGahee, who tore his ACL at Miami (watch the video.. it's ugly). I believe it toko him at least 2 yrs to be back to normal.
Same for Welker. He tore it two years ago, was OK last year and is off to a good start this year.
I tore my ACL a few months ago, it's no fun. The rehab is a longgggggggg process. At least a year a before your new ligament is back to full strength.
Same for Welker. He tore it two years ago, was OK last year and is off to a good start this year.
I tore my ACL a few months ago, it's no fun. The rehab is a longgggggggg process. At least a year a before your new ligament is back to full strength.
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
Yeah, this makes no sense. Id be pissed if I was him too, because you fleeced him in that trade even when Charles was healthy
faulkfan
Footballguy
None, I want Bowe. The Chiefs are going to be behind and none of the RBs you listed are going to be studs. I'll take the WR who will most likely be seeing the majority of targets for a team that has major defensive deficiencies.
VikingFrog
Footballguy
Mccluster listed in yahoo as a wr/rb. Does he have enough upside to take advantage of this if you have poor receivers depth?
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
I realize Charles has a couple inches and it looks like 20lbs on McCluster, but Charles was undersized himself and people expected him to get 15-20 carries/game. With how done Jones looks, I dont see how McCluster doesnt get around 12 carries/game and at least a few catches. Plus he's now the most explosive part of their offense.
If Im picking 1 or the other, Id go McCluster
If Im picking 1 or the other, Id go McCluster
montanagold
Footballguy
I have.. and I don't disagree. But, so did Curtis Martin and I rode him to championship over and over.'Young 8 said:
