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Why would you trade when he HASN'T had a big week. Wait for a big game and trade high if you have no faith in him.
The Cardinals have been an odd team this year....everything is just breaking perfectly for them and despite Palmer playing until the end of several blowout games and having scored the most points in the NFL they are tied for 28th in passing attempts with 18.6/game. Whereas the Pats are #2 in scoring and they have the 2nd most pass attempts. It's only a 3 game sample and they played what may end up being the worst 3 teams in the NFL in NO, Chi and SF...things will normalize over the course of the season and they will have to throw the ball more, probably starting this weekend vs. St. Louis.
again...I don't think you should view this situation in a vacuum...they've had an absurdly low number of pass attempts through 3 games. If you extrapolate the 18.6 pass attempts across the year you'll end up with 298 attempts which is more than 150 fewer attempts than the last place Seahawks had last year and 276 fewer pass attempts than the Cards had last year. I think the best way to view this situation is to look at the % of targets he's getting and so far it equates to 30% of the attempts and if you assume they end up near the same number of attempts this year as they had last year (568 which was in the middle of the pack at 14th) and if Brown can maintain that 30% target rate your talking about 170 targets which is 2 more than Antonio Brown had last year and he led the NFL last year.
This makes a lot of sense. I have Brown on my bench but I am definitely holding. He is in a real good spot.
He's a 2nd year guy with upside but no real track record so his value is all based on what could be so he won't have trade value until he does something valuable.
True but I expected more than “hey you are 9th in the waiver wire order this week I am 4th. Give me John Brown and we can swap places”
Well yeah.
Couldn't disagree more with this.
You missed my point. My point was that most players have close plays that don't go their way. It is t just john brown that left points on the field. All guys do that. James jones was just an example I used because it came to mind.
There could be a breakout or he could be Torrey Smith, by which I mean a guy that catches one of those deep ones every so often but generally isn't this reliable fantasy WR.
My point was not to suggest that he'd get 170 but rather that even though his target count is low its due to the absurdly low number of pass attempts. On a % basis he's getting a fine number of targets, they just aren't throwing the ball much which will change. Basically JB owners need to root for more competitive games not blowouts.
No, I didn't miss your point. IMO Brown is going to break out, and the evidence is in front of us. You choose to ignore it. I don't. One of us will be right.
What do you mean by breakout?Just Win Baby said:No, I didn't miss your point. IMO Brown is going to break out, and the evidence is in front of us. You choose to ignore it. I don't. One of us will be right.Sabertooth said:
I mean I think he will end up with at least 80/1200/8 this season. That would have ranked him in the top 15-20 range last season, depending on scoring system.What do you mean by breakout?Just Win Baby said:No, I didn't miss your point. IMO Brown is going to break out, and the evidence is in front of us. You choose to ignore it. I don't. One of us will be right.Sabertooth said:
Well, then he is overdue for a big game. Just not sure it will be today.I mean I think he will end up with at least 80/1200/8 this season. That would have ranked him in the top 15-20 range last season, depending on scoring system.What do you mean by breakout?No, I didn't miss your point. IMO Brown is going to break out, and the evidence is in front of us. You choose to ignore it. I don't. One of us will be right.
I am similarly faced with the choice of TY Hilton or Brown. Hilton without Luck gives me pause. I am thinking Hass is veteran enough to pepper Hilton with high percentage passes. Leaning slightly to Hilton but would not be surprised if Brown has a better day. ETA that if my choice was Moncrief v. Brown, I would go with Brown so long as Hass is filling in on short notice for Luck.
Brown had a TD week 1.
He had a TD Wk1. But I understand where you're coming from. You're looking for that explosion. I guess it depends on what you paid for him. Luckily, I don't have a whole lot invested, so what he's giving me is pretty good ROI.
