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There is no difference between what Khan said and any other confrontation escalating to a point. Two people coming to a head.Then one decides to walk away (MJD preparing to cave and report) and the other says "yeah thats what I thought".You are directly questioning a persons pride, you are taking the money out of the equation and making it all about power. Intentionally trying to make MJD feel smaller than he is. No pun intended.
a signing bonus is a means to pay the player more while ducking around the cap consequences.I thought you knew something about the nfl.
jealousy of the players or the owners?
Does it matter? They're not Super Bowl bound. They are rebuilding for the future. They got a potential stud at WR in this years draft, and they'll have another top pick next year with or without MJD. I'm sure there will be RB talent available in the second round, like where they got MJD at #60. Heck, trading MJD might give them the worst record and they can have a shot at Barkley if they don't like Gabbert's development this year. I don't see the upside for them to pay MJD more money. Get draft picks and build from there.'Run It Up said:
Keep on paraphrasing. It sounds better that way, right? Sounds kind of silly to type 'train is leaving' and take the position that those horrible words warrant a punch in the throat. Also, saying that MJD decided to walk away (whoops, paraphrasing here--I mean cave in and report) is simple speculation. MJD was packing his duffel bag, was he? He had his car keys, was walking out the door, then heard Khan's awful insult (train is leaving?!?!? That sonofabi--), and turned around, to resume his 30 grand a day holdout?I don't believe that.
That was my only point, was do you think they win more without him.I would prefer he played somewhere else in the NFL and Jags floundered.But Khan has said he wont trade him, which creates a situation. He either wont be traded and they are gonna sit on mjd. Or no team in the NFL will give them a reasonable offer.If he just went about it like any other team, blah blah blah player troubles, looking to move him. They could have easily gotten a first for MJD.There is noway even if they said they would trade him today someone makes that offer.
Great discussion your having with yourself.
He's actually owning you at every turn, but don't let that get in the way.
It's posturing. I'm sure the Jags are getting calls, and if a good deal came in they'd take it. Look at the haul the Bengals got for Palmer. I can easily see this playing out like that situation. At this point, it seems like the Jags have the leverage. MJD can play on his contract for a crappy team, or force their hand to trade him. In the end, I think a trade makes the most sense for both parties. It will be interesting to see how it plays out.
He's in a better situation to make an educated decision than people on a fantasy football forum.Jealousy of the players.
Like I said not every self-made billionair owners are like Mark Cuban.
Mark Cuban is barely Mark Cuban. But I agree completely.Like I said not every self-made billionair owners are like Mark Cuban.
Maybe I'm forgetting something, but when was the last time a RB was traded for a 1st round pick?
What is it exactly that you think you are refuting?Signing bonuses are good for the team because they can spread the cap hit over the years of the contract. They are good for the player because they get the money up front. If they were not included in the contract, the player would not sign with that team.
but don't the owners make way more money?
I think most people think of themselves as downtrodden millionaires, not billionaires.
That's why the broke ### Joes are clueless. They should support the athletes not the owners.
dont care about the players or the owners, just the logo on the side of the helmet.
Please let me know how he can "succeed" with this whole contract dispute.Like I said not every self-made billionair owners are like Mark Cuban.
Lol young'n, this isn't like your boss @ k-mart yelling at you for fetching carts wrong.And you couldn't be more wrong about Jax, I don't know where you get your so called 'opinions' from, but they are about as far off base as could be possible.I bet you're a tebow lover aren't you? splains alot.'Run It Up said:
Way to come in and set everyone straight. Here's the INFO: There is none. No one has blinked yet.
Why would you blindly support any one group rather than look at the merits of a particular situatjon?If you want to support mojo send him 10 bux
Cute, its like I really am in the FFA board.
He is the Javon Ringer of the Jaguars.Hes had a good game and has been absolutely lack luster everywhere but training camp during MJDs holdout.
CJ2K grossly underperformed his contract. I don't recall seeing any news where the Titans cut him.
Im sure there was a clause in there about him getting less than 2000 yards.CJ2K grossly underperformed his contract. I don't recall seeing any news where the Titans cut him.
Gains yards in bunches, makes great cuts, can be a 3 down back although with the ACL tear you kind of hope they don't abuse him or else this won't be a nice value play in the 12th.
It wasn't torn because he never required surgery.
Good info, thought he was gone all year last year. He's value in the 9th/10th now.
This is where I disagree. MJD wasn't paid generously upfront. When he signed this deal, he was basically the second most valuable RB in football. If they had a redraft of every player in the NFL at that time, my guess is MJD goes second after Peterson (which is where he was going in fantasy drafts). On the open market, he would have gotten a huge deal.But the Jags had him for pennies on the dollar, so he had to negotiate an extension that was nowhere near generous. It was a great deal -- for the Jags. And they've consistently come up under the cap since then, so it's not like his deal was hurting the team.
Translation: "I now realize they called my bluff. Hopefully in time people will forget I was a jackass."
HUH??At the time that contract was signed, he was the 3rd highest paid RB in football with a $17.5M check put in his pocket (guaranteed portion).
Jennings has a 5.4 career YPC. Ringer isn't anywhere near that.Jennings was a good flex option down the stretch during 2010. From week 12 on he scored less than double digits only once in a standard .5 PPR league (only 2 of those games he started due to an injury to MJD). He's a decent receiver and a 3-down RB. I seem to remember talk of his COP role possibly expanding prior to landing on IR least year. If he fills in for MJD I expect him to produce decent RB2 numbers due both to his ability and his opportunity (he should get the lion's share of the RB touches while MJD is out). If MJD is back I expect Jennings to be a borderline flex play toward the beginning of the year with the chances of his touches lessening as MJD gets into the flow.
In the summer of 2009, the only person more valuable than Jones-Drew on your list would be Peterson. You think Thomas Jones was a more valuable commodity than MJD? Do you think the Jaguars would have traded MJD for Cedric Benson? Come on.And his large signing bonus came with a huge anchor -- a five year deal. Do you think that might cause a problem for him one day? It was nowhere near a market deal or a good deal for MJD.
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