No way Moss goes off the board as the first WR in a dynasty or keeper league....
I've heard this echo'd all over the place, usually by people who feel Reggie Wayne is the #1 dynasty WR.That baffles me. Wayne is a year younger than Moss. Moss sure didn't look like he was slowing down and he is still the premiere red zone target in the NFL, and that won't change for several years.
Moss is my #1 WR in a dynasty. I could see Fitz or Edwards or Colston being ranked ahead of him if you want a younger guy, but I see no reason for Wayne to be ahead of Moss (which he often is).
Moss = #1 talent + #1 passing situation (or #2 if you like Indy better) and just turned 31. Still has at least 3 yrs of elite production if not possibly more.
Edwards is my guy in dynasty. In a redraft, I would probably go with Moss....
That's fine. And while I don't agree, I can see him going first. But to say "no way Moss goes off as the #1 in a dynasty" isn't true. There are very good arguments for him being #1 and I know I'm not the only one who feels that way. You don't have to have him that high, but your statement is a bit over the top, I think.
Plenty of startup dynasty league drafts going on right now. I've been checking them periodically as I have one late Summer. Can't say that I have seen Moss go first at WR in any of them. There may be exceptions, but for the most part he's not going first. Therefore my comment is not over the top. Feel free to prove me wrong with your arguments, but in actuality Moss is not going first....
Staff WR dynasty rankings3 out of 6 FBG staff have Moss ranked as their #1 dynasty WR. 2 others have him #2. If they were in a spot to be the first to take a WR, good chance you see him go first. That's enough information without digging up drafts that it's not inconceivable that Moss goes as the 1st WR off the board in a startup dynasty draft.
But, if you feel comfortable with saying "NO WAY Moss goes off the board first as a WR", then that's great. I guess since you haven't seen it, then it can't possibly be true.
Here is the list of startup dynasties from
this threadI couldn't access Backyard Brawl III for some reason (I'm circumventing the block on this site from my company and couldn't get to this one with that method) but the other 17 are below.
Hyper Active 3 - Moss is the 5th WR taken
Misfits and Outlaws Xtreme SUPER-flex--1 - Moss 2nd WR taken
Misfits and Outlaws Xtreme SUPER-flex--2 - Moss, 5th WR taken
Don Shula Dynasty - Moss, 5th WR taken
Zealots49 - Moss 2nd WR taken
Zealots50 - Moss 5th WR taken
Zealots51 - FINALLY!!! Moss goes 1st. 6 picks into the 2nd round somebody snagged Moss
Zealots52 - Moss 5th WR taken (3rd round!!)
Zealots53 - Another Moss comes off first
Zealots54 - Moss comes off 2nd and actually in the first round...
Zealots55 - Moss was the 3rd WR taken
Zealots56 - Moss 2nd WR taken
Zealots57 - Moss goes off first again!!!
Zealots58 - Moss was the 6th WR taken (somebody was a Boldin fan)
Zealots59 - Moss was 2nd
Zealots60 - Moss was 5th
Anytime, Anyplace - Moss 2nd WR taken
So, out of 17 drafts, looks like your 3 FBG staff guys were picking in 3 of them and took Moss first. But the VAST majority is passing on Moss first and going with the younger WR's like Braylon, Colston, Wayne, Fitz and Andre Johnson.
Obviously 3 guys with a lot of love for Moss. That happens, but most were going younger....