2011-current
Getzlaf 208
Perry 193
for comparison
Giroux 245
Kessel 233
Malkin 231
Crosby 221
Ovechkin 214
St. Louis 214
Stamkos 208
Thornton 205
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NHL Off-Season thread:Down goes Kane! (1 Viewer)
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Getzlaf 208
Perry 193
for comparison
Giroux 245
Kessel 233
Malkin 231
Crosby 221
Ovechkin 214
St. Louis 214
Stamkos 208
Thornton 205
Billy Bats
Footballguy
I thought Getz would be higher. Giroux would be second to Crosby without the soft noggin, but he still doesn't get the respect, imo.
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In 2011-2012, Getzlaf was pretty awful.
11 goals, 46 assists, 57 points in 82 games.
Selanne led them with 66 points in 82 games that year.
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Billy Bats
Footballguy
Yea that hurt. Another 25 points that season for around his average and he's number 2 with the fat one.
Northern Voice
Footballguy
Northern Voice
Footballguy
I love the Leafs having Komarov, Clarkson, Santorelli, Winnik, Holland, Panik etc.. on the 3rd and 4th lines. Those names don't seem like much but after years of Mclaren, Orr, McClement, Brown and the likes it's a massive upgrade.
Half in the bag
Footballguy
The Bonino trade is looking better for Van each game. Gets the winner against his old team
Northern Voice
Footballguy
If only someone had predicted this (over and over again) all offseason.Half in the bag said:
Kesler is playing 20+ minutes/game on a team tied for the most points in the league.
advanced stats look pretty good for him as well.
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Dickie Dunn
Footballguy
Did the Leafs really sign Clarkson to that big FA deal to have him playing on the third line?Northern Voice said:
I would have assumed he had the worst contract in the league now that Leino is gone. He is a nice 3rd line player who is being paid like a 1st line player.
according to time on ice numbers, he ranks basically in a tie for 6th among Leafs forwards with Komarov at about 16 minutes/game but he is getting 2+ minutes/game on the PP each game.
Is anyone even close to Mark Giordano in the Norris race right now?
He has 5 goals and 18 points in 16 games along with a +8 rating and ranks 3rd in blocked shots.
He has 5 goals and 18 points in 16 games along with a +8 rating and ranks 3rd in blocked shots.
chet
Footballguy
Just from stats, the #2 choice would be Brodie who's also on the Flames. Never would have guessed and I don't think it will remain this way.
Are they changing the name to the Orr Trophy? I seem to recall hearing that somewhere.
Ashem
Footballguy
Would Mike Richards be the leader for the worst contract in the NHL for the next few years?
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I'd rather have Richards at $5.75MM over Clarkson at $5.25MM.
Either probably better than Semin at $7MM.
I'm a big Mikko Koivu fan but he's off to a slow start with just 3 points on a $6.75MM cap hit.
D in the D
Footballguy
Johan Franzen's cap hit of just under 4 mil per, until he turns 41, is pretty gross as well.
he's got 10 points in 9 games played this year.
put up a respectable 41 in 54 last year, and 31 in 41 the year before.
where's the downside of paying a guy who puts up that kind of production with a $4MM cap hit? He also has 42 goals in 107 playoff games.
PPG for Franzen in last 5 years:
10-11: .72
11-12: .73
12-13: .76
13-14: .76
14-15: 1.11
nobody on the Red Wings comes close to the horrid Stephen Weiss contract.
Heck, Dan Cleary is making $2.75MM this year for basically nothing. He had 8 points in 52 games a year ago, 15 in 48 games the year before, and they actually chose to re-sign him to that deal?
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Foosball God
Foos
People get caught up in Franzen because he is streaky. But his cap hit is really not that bad for what he brings, and it isn't like he is going to play until he is 41 anyway. He'll retire and that will be wiped off the books.
he's got 10 points in 9 games played this year.
put up a respectable 41 in 54 last year, and 31 in 41 the year before.
where's the downside of paying a guy who puts up that kind of production with a $4MM cap hit?
ffldrew
Footballguy
This will be one happy Avs fan when he retires - most of those points come against the Avalanche - so if you discount that he might just be averagePeople get caught up in Franzen because he is streaky. But his cap hit is really not that bad for what he brings, and it isn't like he is going to play until he is 41 anyway. He'll retire and that will be wiped off the books.
he's got 10 points in 9 games played this year.
put up a respectable 41 in 54 last year, and 31 in 41 the year before.
where's the downside of paying a guy who puts up that kind of production with a $4MM cap hit?
Northern Voice
Footballguy
Yeah he's played on both the 2nd and 3rd line. I know it's impossible to seperate him from that contract and his play last season, but he's played well this year and was going to make that money from someone.
Hawks64
Footballguy
That's not accurate. Depending on when he retires the Wings will take a ~2.5 to 2.9M cap recapture penalty for each of the remaining years of the contract. The only way they don't eat it is if he gets hurt and stays on LTIR sort of like what happened with Pronger. Hawks have the same issue with Hossa, but the cap recapture hit is higher for Hossa.People get caught up in Franzen because he is streaky. But his cap hit is really not that bad for what he brings, and it isn't like he is going to play until he is 41 anyway. He'll retire and that will be wiped off the books.
he's got 10 points in 9 games played this year.
put up a respectable 41 in 54 last year, and 31 in 41 the year before.
where's the downside of paying a guy who puts up that kind of production with a $4MM cap hit?
Dickie Dunn
Footballguy
Kind of a bummer to have your first career goal taken away a day later on a scoring change.
Credited to Versteeg after a video review shows he tipped it. Still his first career point.
Dickie Dunn
Footballguy
Hell of a goal by Seth Griffith. Forced a turnover in the D zone and went out on a partial breakaway. While being backchecked by a pair of Devils, got spun around 180 and somehow chipped the puck between his legs past Schneider.
Vine of the very end of the play.
Vine of the very end of the play.
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Zegras11
Footballguy
Ducks have gone from a bad face off team to one of the best with him and Nate Thompson. They mentioned last night Van has gone from top to bottom in FO.
Ducks are getting hammered by the flu. Perry, Getz, Beauch, Fowler have all missed games recently.
Dickie Dunn
Footballguy
Northern Voice
Footballguy
Tomas Fleischmann making 4.5 million for 1 point and healthy scratch the other night is ugly as well.
Parmcat
Canada: Beer, Bacon and Beavers
Foosball God
Foos
Pronger signed his contract after the age of 35. It was my understanding that if you signed a contract under the age of 35 it got significantly reduced and was based off of the value of the remaining contract and the years. If you signed your deal over the age of 35 then the club was stuck with the full contract amount on their cap.That's not accurate. Depending on when he retires the Wings will take a ~2.5 to 2.9M cap recapture penalty for each of the remaining years of the contract. The only way they don't eat it is if he gets hurt and stays on LTIR sort of like what happened with Pronger. Hawks have the same issue with Hossa, but the cap recapture hit is higher for Hossa.People get caught up in Franzen because he is streaky. But his cap hit is really not that bad for what he brings, and it isn't like he is going to play until he is 41 anyway. He'll retire and that will be wiped off the books.
he's got 10 points in 9 games played this year.
put up a respectable 41 in 54 last year, and 31 in 41 the year before.
where's the downside of paying a guy who puts up that kind of production with a $4MM cap hit?
Billy Bats
Footballguy
PR for the Otters saying "it does not look good" for McDavid after sustaining a hand injury during a fight.
Video
http://www.thescore.com/news/628194?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
Video
http://www.thescore.com/news/628194?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
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Billy Bats
Footballguy
So that Filip Forsberg looks like a hockey player, eh? What in the hell was McPhee thinking?
Brady Marino
Footballguy
Lehterasenko line doing work tonight. 
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Billy Bats
Footballguy
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Damn right. Phenomenal play by Schwartz on that last goal.Them two are fake hockey gold.Lehterasenko line doing work tonight.
Billy Bats
Footballguy
#stlblues on a 5 on 5 power playDamn right. Phenomenal play by Schwartz on that last goal.Them two are fake hockey gold.Lehterasenko line doing work tonight.
9:48pm - 11 Nov 14
Hawks64
Footballguy
It's based on the cap savings the team has received at the time of retirement. Capgeek isn't often wrong, doubt they are now. LinkFoosball God said:Pronger signed his contract after the age of 35. It was my understanding that if you signed a contract under the age of 35 it got significantly reduced and was based off of the value of the remaining contract and the years. If you signed your deal over the age of 35 then the club was stuck with the full contract amount on their cap.That's not accurate. Depending on when he retires the Wings will take a ~2.5 to 2.9M cap recapture penalty for each of the remaining years of the contract. The only way they don't eat it is if he gets hurt and stays on LTIR sort of like what happened with Pronger. Hawks have the same issue with Hossa, but the cap recapture hit is higher for Hossa.People get caught up in Franzen because he is streaky. But his cap hit is really not that bad for what he brings, and it isn't like he is going to play until he is 41 anyway. He'll retire and that will be wiped off the books.
he's got 10 points in 9 games played this year.
put up a respectable 41 in 54 last year, and 31 in 41 the year before.
where's the downside of paying a guy who puts up that kind of production with a $4MM cap hit?
Northern Voice
Footballguy
Northern Voice
Footballguy
Out indefinitely. Stupid. He was supposed to be in my city Thursday night for Subway Super Series vs. Russia.Billy Bats said:
Northern Voice
Footballguy
Vegas is going to take a huge hit on Colorado this year. Their over/under started at 98.5 points (even though they had 112 last season - Vegas knew the regression was coming). Even at that, the under was hammered and it dropped to 96.5 and then 95.5. From what we've seen so far, they won't come close to that.Islanders getting some payback tonight
Full article on it here http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/hockey/mirtle-avanche-are-a-team-in-turmoil-after-warning-signs-were-ignored/article21472457/
I hit them at U45.5 wins, but got in pretty late.Vegas is going to take a huge hit on Colorado this year. Their over/under started at 98.5 points (even though they had 112 last season - Vegas knew the regression was coming). Even at that, the under was hammered and it dropped to 96.5 and then 95.5. From what we've seen so far, they won't come close to that.Islanders getting some payback tonight
Full article on it here http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/hockey/mirtle-avanche-are-a-team-in-turmoil-after-warning-signs-were-ignored/article21472457/
