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10 team start 2 QB, tiered ppr
AJ Green
Hunter
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D Murray
Decker
Stills
2016 3rd
AJ Green
Hunter
For
D Murray
Decker
Stills
2016 3rd
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Green side by quite a lot for me.10 team start 2 QB, tiered ppr
AJ Green
Hunter
For
D Murray
Decker
Stills
2016 3rd
Easily, it's a terrible trade for the defending champ.Green side by quite a lot for me.10 team start 2 QB, tiered ppr
AJ Green
Hunter
For
D Murray
Decker
Stills
2016 3rd
Green10 team start 2 QB, tiered ppr
AJ Green
Hunter
For
D Murray
Decker
Stills
2016 3rd
Hmm, this one's interesting. Having to start 2 TE makes me like Graham a good bit more. I think if I was as high on Watkins as many others, I'd take that side pretty easily. As it is, it's close for me, but I thiiink this is enough to pry Luck from me.10 team 2QB 3WR 3RB 2TE 1Flex .5ppr 30 man rosters
Team A traded: Andrew Luck
Team B traded: Watkins, Bortles, Jimmy Graham, 1.06
Not involved
Team A is rebuilding and wanted a youth movement. Still has Tannehill as well as Bortles, and what I'm guessing is his choice of QB's at 1.06Can't see trading luck without getting a stud qb in return.
This. I like the Gronk side. Not necessarily because I think Gronk is massively more valuable than Graham. But because I think the cost to upgrade in this case was pretty small and there is definitely a bit of a gap there. Floyd has some DUIs and off field issues in his past and there seem to be questions over his work ethic, conditioning, etc. and he just generally seems to be out of favor in Arizona. Still plenty of time for him to turn his career around, but he looks headed towards being "just a guy" in fantasy terms. Duke's a 2nd round rookie pick which is small potato in the big picture.blardorg said:I'm not so pessimistic about Graham yet, though I've soured on Floyd. I probably would've preferred a high tier rookie or early 1st round pick instead of Floyd, so I think as it is I'd probably not go through with it. I'm not sure Gronk's value can realistically go any higher than it is now, though, so if you think Floyd can put it together and be a WR2, I understand taking it.Casting Couch said:Nice haul for Gronk. Selling high on Gronk brought a nice package there. Solid sell.JohnnyU said:PPR / Devy league, start 1 qb, 2-3 rb, 3-4 wr, 1-2 te, 1k, 1def
Jimmy Graham, Duke Johnson, and Michael Floyd for Rob Gronkowski.
In a Start 2QB league, Luck easily. Would think about it in a 1QB league for 2 seconds and still choose Luck.Hmm, this one's interesting. Having to start 2 TE makes me like Graham a good bit more. I think if I was as high on Watkins as many others, I'd take that side pretty easily. As it is, it's close for me, but I thiiink this is enough to pry Luck from me.10 team 2QB 3WR 3RB 2TE 1Flex .5ppr 30 man rosters
Team A traded: Andrew Luck
Team B traded: Watkins, Bortles, Jimmy Graham, 1.06
Not involved
And a valuable learning experience.Team A is rebuilding and wanted a youth movement. Still has Tannehill as well as Bortles, and what I'm guessing is his choice of QB's at 1.06Can't see trading luck without getting a stud qb in return.
In a Start 2QB league, Luck easily. Would think about it in a 1QB league for 2 seconds and still choose Luck.Hmm, this one's interesting. Having to start 2 TE makes me like Graham a good bit more. I think if I was as high on Watkins as many others, I'd take that side pretty easily. As it is, it's close for me, but I thiiink this is enough to pry Luck from me.10 team 2QB 3WR 3RB 2TE 1Flex .5ppr 30 man rosters
Team A traded: Andrew Luck
Team B traded: Watkins, Bortles, Jimmy Graham, 1.06
Not involved
Fair deal in 2 QB. Massive overpay for Luck in 1 QB. Those players could easily be flipped for 3 and probably 4 additional 1st rounders. Nobody is paying 5 first rounders for any player, let alone a QB.In a Start 2QB league, Luck easily. Would think about it in a 1QB league for 2 seconds and still choose Luck.Hmm, this one's interesting. Having to start 2 TE makes me like Graham a good bit more. I think if I was as high on Watkins as many others, I'd take that side pretty easily. As it is, it's close for me, but I thiiink this is enough to pry Luck from me.10 team 2QB 3WR 3RB 2TE 1Flex .5ppr 30 man rosters
Team A traded: Andrew Luck
Team B traded: Watkins, Bortles, Jimmy Graham, 1.06
Not involved
Would you really turn this down in a 1QB for Luck? Or are you just saying that? Because if I had Luck and received this offer in 1QB I would accept it in a heartbeat because I could go out and get a Rivers or Romo for a 2nd and have a much better team thanks to 1QB devaluing QBs.In a Start 2QB league, Luck easily. Would think about it in a 1QB league for 2 seconds and still choose Luck.Hmm, this one's interesting. Having to start 2 TE makes me like Graham a good bit more. I think if I was as high on Watkins as many others, I'd take that side pretty easily. As it is, it's close for me, but I thiiink this is enough to pry Luck from me.10 team 2QB 3WR 3RB 2TE 1Flex .5ppr 30 man rosters
Team A traded: Andrew Luck
Team B traded: Watkins, Bortles, Jimmy Graham, 1.06
Not involved
Yeah, in a 1 QB setup that's waaaaay too much for Luck.Would you really turn this down in a 1QB for Luck? Or are you just saying that? Because if I had Luck and received this offer in 1QB I would accept it in a heartbeat because I could go out and get a Rivers or Romo for a 2nd and have a much better team thanks to 1QB devaluing QBs.In a Start 2QB league, Luck easily. Would think about it in a 1QB league for 2 seconds and still choose Luck.Hmm, this one's interesting. Having to start 2 TE makes me like Graham a good bit more. I think if I was as high on Watkins as many others, I'd take that side pretty easily. As it is, it's close for me, but I thiiink this is enough to pry Luck from me.10 team 2QB 3WR 3RB 2TE 1Flex .5ppr 30 man rosters
Team A traded: Andrew Luck
Team B traded: Watkins, Bortles, Jimmy Graham, 1.06
Not involved
I think it's good value, depending on your view of Bortles. If you like his future then you get Luck's replacement in the lineup (although not points obviously), and some very solid building pieces to work with. Nothing wrong with it to me.Yeah, in a 1 QB setup that's waaaaay too much for Luck.Would you really turn this down in a 1QB for Luck? Or are you just saying that? Because if I had Luck and received this offer in 1QB I would accept it in a heartbeat because I could go out and get a Rivers or Romo for a 2nd and have a much better team thanks to 1QB devaluing QBs.In a Start 2QB league, Luck easily. Would think about it in a 1QB league for 2 seconds and still choose Luck.Hmm, this one's interesting. Having to start 2 TE makes me like Graham a good bit more. I think if I was as high on Watkins as many others, I'd take that side pretty easily. As it is, it's close for me, but I thiiink this is enough to pry Luck from me.10 team 2QB 3WR 3RB 2TE 1Flex .5ppr 30 man rosters
Team A traded: Andrew Luck
Team B traded: Watkins, Bortles, Jimmy Graham, 1.06
Not involved
Feel like everyone's missing that it's a 2TE league as well, which pumps up Graham's value quite a bit. I will say that I wouldn't trade away Luck like this if I didn't have two other capable QBs; if I was planning on starting Bortles as my QB2, I would still probably have to decline the trade. I'd be happy with him as my QB3, though.Fair deal in 2 QB. Massive overpay for Luck in 1 QB. Those players could easily be flipped for 3 and probably 4 additional 1st rounders. Nobody is paying 5 first rounders for any player, let alone a QB.In a Start 2QB league, Luck easily. Would think about it in a 1QB league for 2 seconds and still choose Luck.Hmm, this one's interesting. Having to start 2 TE makes me like Graham a good bit more. I think if I was as high on Watkins as many others, I'd take that side pretty easily. As it is, it's close for me, but I thiiink this is enough to pry Luck from me.10 team 2QB 3WR 3RB 2TE 1Flex .5ppr 30 man rosters
Team A traded: Andrew Luck
Team B traded: Watkins, Bortles, Jimmy Graham, 1.06
Not involved
Pretty fair assuming those are rookie only picks and league is PPR. Some would prefer both White and Cooper to Gurley in a PPR setting. 2.03 could net a Dorsett/Funchess/Duke/Maxx(due to TE premium) which is a decent sweetener for the drop.Not me, but this just took place immediately following our startup. 12 team, TE Premium, four flexes.
Team A sends the 1.02 (Gurley)
Team B sends the 1.03, 2.03, 3.03, 4.03
Won't Gurley likely catch a lot of passes?I wouldn't trade Gurley for that......it would take a lot morePretty fair assuming those are rookie only picks and league is PPR. Some would prefer both White and Cooper to Gurley in a PPR setting. 2.03 could net a Dorsett/Funchess/Duke/Maxx(due to TE premium) which is a decent sweetener for the drop.Not me, but this just took place immediately following our startup. 12 team, TE Premium, four flexes.
Team A sends the 1.02 (Gurley)
Team B sends the 1.03, 2.03, 3.03, 4.03
He ended up with Kevin White, Devin Funchess, Jay Ajayi, David Cobb, Devin Smith, Kenny Bell and Tre Mcbride. Pretty good haul imo.Pretty fair assuming those are rookie only picks and league is PPR. Some would prefer both White and Cooper to Gurley in a PPR setting. 2.03 could net a Dorsett/Funchess/Duke/Maxx(due to TE premium) which is a decent sweetener for the drop.Not me, but this just took place immediately following our startup. 12 team, TE Premium, four flexes.
Team A sends the 1.02 (Gurley)
Team B sends the 1.03, 2.03, 3.03, 4.03
IMO Team B (getting Luck) wins, and it's not close.Non PPR
Tesm A gives Luck, Dorsett
Team B gives: Cam, AP, C. Michael
A couple years from now...Gave 1.2
Got Megatron
Even more baffling with short 14 man rosters.12 team FFPC PPR
Peterson
for
Patterson
Blue
3rd round pick
6th round pick
Both baffling and disturbing based on current perceived value.
I hope not. 16 team league and I've been riding brady for years. Hope I can eek out a couple more good ones and then blow it up. Mega ADP still pretty high.A couple years from now...Gave 1.2
Got Megatron
"Why did I trade Cooper for a busted up Megatron"
If your team is good enough to be competing for the championship the next 2 years or so, I don't think it's the worst trade. Definitely giving up long term value for better scoring in the next ~2 years, though.I hope not. 16 team league and I've been riding brady for years. Hope I can eek out a couple more good ones and then blow it up. Mega ADP still pretty high.A couple years from now...Gave 1.2
Got Megatron
"Why did I trade Cooper for a busted up Megatron"
I'll take the Cobb side somewhat easily in a PPR setting.A gave Demaryius Thomas
B gave Randall Cobb, Nelson Algohor
My first reaction was that this is stupid cheap for Moncrief. On second thought, the difference between 2.04 to 3.01 could be Dorsett to someone I have zero interest in. Who was available at 2.04 and 3.01?Gave 2.04
Got
Moncrief
3.01
Haven't drafted yetMy first reaction was that this is stupid cheap for Moncrief. On second thought, the difference between 2.04 to 3.01 could be Dorsett to someone I have zero interest in. Who was available at 2.04 and 3.01?Gave 2.04
Got
Moncrief
3.01
Team after the trade:If your team is good enough to be competing for the championship the next 2 years or so, I don't think it's the worst trade. Definitely giving up long term value for better scoring in the next ~2 years, though.I hope not. 16 team league and I've been riding brady for years. Hope I can eek out a couple more good ones and then blow it up. Mega ADP still pretty high.A couple years from now...Gave 1.2
Got Megatron
"Why did I trade Cooper for a busted up Megatron"
Horrible tradeTeam after the trade:If your team is good enough to be competing for the championship the next 2 years or so, I don't think it's the worst trade. Definitely giving up long term value for better scoring in the next ~2 years, though.I hope not. 16 team league and I've been riding brady for years. Hope I can eek out a couple more good ones and then blow it up. Mega ADP still pretty high.A couple years from now...Gave 1.2
Got Megatron
"Why did I trade Cooper for a busted up Megatron"
Brady, Tom
Smith, Geno
Crowell, Isaiah
Grice, Marion
Jennings, Rashad
Rainey, Bobby
Thomas, Pierre
Allen, Keenan
Blackmon, Justin
Cotchery, Jerricho
Hartline, Brian
Harvin, Percy
Jackson, Vincent
Johnson, Calvin
Wright, Jarius
Chandler, Scott
Gillmore, Crockett
Kelce, Travis
Lewis, Marcedes
Bailey, Dan
Bills, Buffalo BUF Def
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Nice job for you, but horrible by the other owner. It sucks when one person dominates a draft.10 Team Superflex
Gave: 2.02/2.03/3.03
Got: 1.07/4.07
Wanted another pick in the top tier. Leaves me with 1.01, 1.03, 1.04, 1.07, 1.08 and 2.01.
Wow, I thought it was a little bit of an overpay, but I had so many picks because of trading the last few years I could afford to do it. I was expecting most people to prefer the other side of it.Nice job for you, but horrible by the other owner. It sucks when one person dominates a draft.10 Team Superflex
Gave: 2.02/2.03/3.03
Got: 1.07/4.07
Wanted another pick in the top tier. Leaves me with 1.01, 1.03, 1.04, 1.07, 1.08 and 2.01.
It's by no means horrible for the other guy. You get your choice of an Agholor, DGB, Abdullah, Perriman, etc, plus a junk player and he gets a couple of Ajayi, Duke, Dorsett, Funchess, Strong, Maxx, Winston, Mariota, plus a guy in the early 3rd like Devin Smith, Coates, Allen, etc.CR69 said:Wow, I thought it was a little bit of an overpay, but I had so many picks because of trading the last few years I could afford to do it. I was expecting most people to prefer the other side of it.msudaisy26 said:Nice job for you, but horrible by the other owner. It sucks when one person dominates a draft.CR69 said:10 Team Superflex
Gave: 2.02/2.03/3.03
Got: 1.07/4.07
Wanted another pick in the top tier. Leaves me with 1.01, 1.03, 1.04, 1.07, 1.08 and 2.01.
Superflex so Winston and Mariota should be long gone, but I agree with this assessment. Depends on team specifics, but don't see it as completely 1-sided.It's by no means horrible for the other guy. You get your choice of an Agholor, DGB, Abdullah, Perriman, etc, plus a junk player and he gets a couple of Ajayi, Duke, Dorsett, Funchess, Strong, Maxx, Winston, Mariota, plus a guy in the early 3rd like Devin Smith, Coates, Allen, etc.CR69 said:Wow, I thought it was a little bit of an overpay, but I had so many picks because of trading the last few years I could afford to do it. I was expecting most people to prefer the other side of it.msudaisy26 said:Nice job for you, but horrible by the other owner. It sucks when one person dominates a draft.CR69 said:10 Team Superflex
Gave: 2.02/2.03/3.03
Got: 1.07/4.07
Wanted another pick in the top tier. Leaves me with 1.01, 1.03, 1.04, 1.07, 1.08 and 2.01.
I'll get one of White/Parker/Marcus/Winston with the 1.07, but he'll get two of DGB/Perriman/Yeldon/Abdullah/Agholor/Coleman/Funchess so it will be interesting to look back a year or two from now.Superflex so Winston and Mariota should be long gone, but I agree with this assessment. Depends on team specifics, but don't see it as completely 1-sided.
ETA: just realized that this is a 10-teamer, so actually would agree that it is a slight overpay since 2.02 would be the end of my top 10 position players or 1 of the QBs. If 1 of the QBs or other top 4 drop to 1.07 though, this looks really cheap.