cloppbeast
Footballguy
Burrow is a smart well-versed quarterback, moderately talented in the physical realm. If the bengals can't keep that core of players together, well I don't know.
Lamar Jackson is the whole the system there in Baltimore.
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Lamar Jackson is the whole the system there in Baltimore.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
seems fair, but I’d probably keep Cooper. Cleveland is certainly a tumultuous situation.
probably a good cash-out on Cooks in SF.
interesting trade. Seems fair. Gimme Kirk, Spiller & White
nice buy on Davis.
Fair price for ARob. I’d probably take the 1st.
fair, but I’ll take Wilson here in SF.
bostonfred
Footballguy
Jonesin For Some Football
Footballguy
1st - I like Burks but think you have to keep AC and Juice in this one, especially in TE Premium. Especially with some of the reports of asthma or being out of shape from camp on Burks. Seems fair though so I can understand both sides.
2nd - Winston could be valuable in SF and probably would lean that way if the 1st was this year but I think it is a solid price to get for Cooks/Jamies, especially they have plenty of QBs.
3rd - I like Spiller a lot even though he went to a bad spot and Kirk could blow up so I probably lean that way. If Wilson wasn't a Jet, I might go that way though.
4th - I'm not as high on Davis as most but I think this is a good deal for him and would pay this for his upside.
5th - A-Rob could have a bounce back year and make you regret this but I am all in on the 23 draft so I'm going to go with that pick as the best piece in this trade and the rest doesn't change my thoughts on it at all.
6th - This probably leans towards Russ in SF but this is why I don't play SF. Cook is still elite. If Goff or Chark was someone that I would feel comfortable starting, then I would go that way.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
It's probably fair, but IMO Chark is a potential blank - he's a poor fit with Goff's arm. And Goff is a short-time solution since DET is likely in on a 2023 QB.
So that leaves me with Russ for Cook. And it's not like Cook has been the most stable commodity with his injury track record.
This is one of those deals that probably looks great in a trade calc, but in practice the side getting Russ wins so long as Wilson plays another 3-4 years.
Jonesin For Some Football
Footballguy
You are right and I did say that this leans towards Russ. Goff/Chark are bench players you pray you don't have to play. Depends on you rother QBs but I do believe Russ plays at least another 3 years if not more.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
FFPC SuperFlex not involved
Team A gives Fournette, 2023 1st
Team B gives Barkley
Team A gives Fournette, 2023 1st
Team B gives Barkley
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
barackdhouse
Footballguy
I think I agree and I have been trying to get Barkley and feel he is undervalued right now. This is the 1st recent deal I have seen that looks like an overpay.
Blick
Footballguy
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I think it’s a significant overpay for Barkley. Someone’s reading too many feel-good “could catch 100 passes!” Hype pieces.
Chad Parsons
Moderator
12-team
Miles Sanders
for
Braelon Allen
Miles Sanders
for
Braelon Allen
Chad Parsons
Moderator
14-team 0.5 PPR
Antonio Gibson
for
Diontae Johnson
Antonio Gibson
for
Diontae Johnson
Chad Parsons
Moderator
Winning a Title in 2022
for
Having the Prettiest Roster all Offseason
for
Having the Prettiest Roster all Offseason
Jonesin For Some Football
Footballguy
I do think this is Leo/23 1st side but I don't think it is as lopsided as others think. I do think Barkley has a bit of a bounce back year but I would sell him for this. It also depends on where that 1st ends up as to how much of an over pay this is if it is at all. If it is Leo and 1.12, then it could be pretty even.
slackjawedyokel
Footballguy
16t ppr qrwwtffdddddd
I gave Mike Thomas
I got CEH.
I gave Mike Thomas
I got CEH.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
My concern with Barkley is that all of his lower leg injuries have caught up with him. I know he’s still fairly young, but even when healthy the last two seasons - which wasn’t often - he hasn’t looked great. I think Fournette is the better option in 2022 and the 2023 pick offsets the age difference even if Barkley is health, and it would be icing on the cake if Barkley is toast.
bostonfred
Footballguy
titusbramble
Footballguy
Seems like a win now trade for the team getting Kupp so can make sense either way, in a vacuum give me the Devonta side
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Gimme that pretty roster. Winning a title is pretty short lived, while I can lovingly gaze at that "potential league dominating lineup" for days and days and days.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
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If I view myself as a top 3 team I’m giving that up easily for Kupp.
I guess it’s fine if you’re rebuilding, but I’d want more.
Do you have to start 2 RBs?
If so, I could see the trade for Gibson in a 14 team, .5 PPR. If you only have to start one, I would prefer Johnson
barackdhouse
Footballguy
Yeah I don't think it is quite as bad as some have said either but IDK how to hedge the 2023 1st because this is our maiden season after doing the startup a month ago. Dude is a good owner but IMO didn't nail the startup. I don't know what that means but *maybe* call it a random 1st?
Boston
Footballguy
Definitely Kupp...he is a legit stud and while Smith is a good one, I don't see him blowing up playing with Hurts as his QB and AJ Brown in the fold...I really dislike the other pieces of this deal...that second piece needed to be a lot better to give up Kupp...the team getting Kupp just improved in a big way without harming their current roster or giving up a first-round pick...nowhere enough upside in this deal to be giving up Kupp.
heckmanm
Footballguy
Someone posted about a contract league a couple days ago, so I hope that flies here.
16 team, PPR for TE only, Q-R-W-W-F-F-F-F-K (max 2 RB and 2 TE). Separate rookie draft, then draft veterans and remaining rookies
Gave: CMC on a 1-year deal, 2022 veteran 1.05, 2023 veteran 8th and 9th rounders
Got: Jamaal Williams on a 1 year deal, 2022 veteran 9.06, 2023 rookie 1st, 2023 veteran 1st.
I'm not contending this year and will lose CMC after the season. The 2022 vet pick I'm giving up projects to be Godwin or Aaron Jones, most likely. Next year's veterans will include Mahomes, Allen, Russ, CMC, Kamara, Kupp, McLaurin, Kelce, Andrews, Waller, and Kittle, so I have a decent chance at landing 2 of those.
16 team, PPR for TE only, Q-R-W-W-F-F-F-F-K (max 2 RB and 2 TE). Separate rookie draft, then draft veterans and remaining rookies
Gave: CMC on a 1-year deal, 2022 veteran 1.05, 2023 veteran 8th and 9th rounders
Got: Jamaal Williams on a 1 year deal, 2022 veteran 9.06, 2023 rookie 1st, 2023 veteran 1st.
I'm not contending this year and will lose CMC after the season. The 2022 vet pick I'm giving up projects to be Godwin or Aaron Jones, most likely. Next year's veterans will include Mahomes, Allen, Russ, CMC, Kamara, Kupp, McLaurin, Kelce, Andrews, Waller, and Kittle, so I have a decent chance at landing 2 of those.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I’m on team B, but I love me some Gabe Davis.Jayded said:
Jayded
Footballguy
I’m Team B but didn’t want to prejudice feedback. I’m an ND fan so bummed to see Chase starting to slip, but now with Pickett who know who’ll be the focus along with Pickens and Austin in town.
I also have Freiermuth, so I wanted out of too many eggs in one basket. There are still good Devy WRs on our board so it really is a free bench spot there and is mostly Davis vs Claypool.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
FWIW, here’s Dave Richard’s recent fake on Davis:
“Gabriel Davis will finish as a top-15 WR in any format
Davis is locked into an improved, unchallenged role in one of the league's pass-happiest offenses. Based on his final six games of the 2021 season, there's gargantuan upside.
It was Week 14 when the Buffalo Bills coaching staff decided to give Davis more playing time. He rewarded them handsomely to end the season and into the playoffs, catching 26 of 45 targets for 449 yards and eight touchdowns. Obviously, that includes his 201-yard, four-score jaw-dropper at Kansas City, but even without that game, Davis averaged 7.0 targets per game with four scores in the other five contests, which isn't bad at all.
And it's that Kansas City Chiefs playoff game that seemingly left a lasting impression on his coaches because they did nothing this offseason to bring in receivers to challenge Davis for his perimeter receiver spot. That means he should play a ton and at least see the same kind of target share he ended 2021 with.
There's also the Josh Allen factor: Obviously, the Bills continued to build around their quarterback this offseason, suggesting there's no way they'll suddenly become a passive, run-first offense. Naturally, that's good for all of his receivers, but it bears mentioning that Allen fired an end-zone target at Davis nine times in those final six games -- one every five targets overall.
If Allen is going to continue to sling it, and if he views Davis as one of his favorite end-zone targets, then there's double-digit scoring potential for the third-year, 23-year-old receiver.”
lardonastick
Footballguy
12 team 0.5 PPR Superflex; not involved
Terrace Marshall
2023 1st
2023 2nd
2024 1st
For
Tyreek Hill
Devin Singletary
Terrace Marshall
2023 1st
2023 2nd
2024 1st
For
Tyreek Hill
Devin Singletary
JohnnyU
Footballguy
That looks too steep to me for Hill. I don't see Singletary ever being a difference maker going forward. Not only is Hill 28, but he moved to a team that has Waddle and more importantly, a QB that is not considered that great.
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sushinsky4tsar
Footballguy
I wouldn't trade a '23 2nd + Marshall for Singletary.
I'm inclined not to trade '23 and '24 1sts for Hill at this point. If your team is an absolute juggernaut and Hill is the last missing piece, I suppose it could work out, but it seems more like a KC Tyreek Hill price.
Jonesin For Some Football
Footballguy
All fair but that offensive line has been absolutely terrible too. I get your stance but I think the Barkley hate has gone a little too far.
Jonesin For Some Football
Footballguy
I'm not high on Smith so I think this goes to Kupp easily but get the other side if you are a Smith believer. I don't see how you trade Kupp after the season he just had and not get at least 1 first though.
Jonesin For Some Football
Footballguy
This is an interesting move. I'm not completely sold on Wilson, I do like Walker, Goedert is a stud TE but Hurts limits him a lil, and I'm not big on Mitch. Diggs is awesome but aging, Kenny G is a joke now, Allgeier could get a shot, Huntley just a cuff, and love the 23 1st round. Any idea where that pick might end up?
I think I lean towards the Diggs/23 1st side personally.
Jonesin For Some Football
Footballguy
This is steep and doubt Hill/Singletary ever make up for the value you lose in this trade. However, titles are hard to come by so if you get one this year then it is worth it I guess but think you could get more help for cheaper elsewhere I would assume.
InDitkaWeTrust
Footballguy
Good lord, the Herbert owner in my 1QB league is wanting Tyreek + a pick. Where are these kinds of owners when you need them?
Jonesin For Some Football
Footballguy
12 team, 1 QB, .5 PPR....
1.5 (Still have 1.1)
2023 3rd - late (almost sure to be 10-12)
for
2024 1st (most likely late)
2023 2nd (top 6 for sure)
2023 2nd (bottom 6 for sure)
1.5 (Still have 1.1)
2023 3rd - late (almost sure to be 10-12)
for
2024 1st (most likely late)
2023 2nd (top 6 for sure)
2023 2nd (bottom 6 for sure)
ryno1980
Footballguy
It’s auction, so the 2023 should secure the No. 1 overall slot. Kenny G is a joke but new offense, who knows. It’s a team with Kelce, JT, Javonte, JJefferson, Higgins, etc, so happy to take on Diggs at end of his prime.
