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***Official Pittsburgh Prospects 2009 thread *** (1 Viewer)
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fred_1_15301
Footballguy
Snell........ 
. What a buzz killer. This guy has no right pitching in the majors.
. What a buzz killer. This guy has no right pitching in the majors.
eagles2007
Footballguy
ian snell, you still suck. why did i buy into what i saw in the ONE inning i watched all spring training. why did i let the outs override the fact that he gave up a moon shot to ryan howard in that inning/
DrunkinDwarf
Footballguy
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
Been there done that. Talk to me 2 weeks from now if the Pirates are still over .500. Thats where they haven't been in a while.
CrossEyed
Footballguy
Can't remember getting two strong outings from starting pitchers in three games, so I'll celebrate whatever I can.
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
Can we please just focus on the Pens now? 4 games into the season and they've already been one-hit.........CrossEyed said:
CrossEyed
Footballguy
But they're playing .500 ball? Ticker tape parade in October if they keep this up, right?
eagles2007
Footballguy
if they end the losing streak they probably do deserve a parade, as sad as that may seem.But they're playing .500 ball? Ticker tape parade in October if they keep this up, right?
Drunken Cowboy
Footballguy
Looked good today.
ceisenhower66
Footballguy
. Other than that 
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CrossEyed
Footballguy
Duke and Ohlendorf had decent outings. Who knows, with a little luck they might be able to play .500+ ball.
ceisenhower66
Footballguy
You are right, but I have to see more from Duke and Dorf. I was very impressed with both of them in the spring. Snell, on the other hand, what a shame...I don't know what happened to him. And I have a feeling the #5 slot in the rotation is going to be a merry-go-round all season.Duke and Ohlendorf had decent outings. Who knows, with a little luck they might be able to play .500+ ball.
BoulderBob
Footballguy
What are the expectations for Pedro Alvarez? ETA/Comparisons/etc from Pirate homers? Just drafted him in my dynasty league.
ceisenhower66
Footballguy
Well, the expectation is that he turns into a mega-stud.
Crosseyed could probably answer better, but I say he is in Pittsburgh no later than 2011, perhaps even next season depending on how he progresses this year. Comparisons...I would say Miguel Cabrera.
Crosseyed could probably answer better, but I say he is in Pittsburgh no later than 2011, perhaps even next season depending on how he progresses this year. Comparisons...I would say Miguel Cabrera.
CrossEyed
Footballguy
Not really. Don't know that much about him except that he's considered a "can't miss". I would think if he can progress to AAA this year we might see him in Pittsburgh as early as next season. In his Class A debut on Thursday he hit a two-run home run, a two-run double and went 3 for 4 with four RBIs. Not a bad way to start.ceisenhower66 said:
dparker713
Footballguy
He could be done with A ball in a month and be in line for a call up by September. Dude can mash.
eagles2007
Footballguy
i'd bring him up in a month. what do they have to lose? it will certainly put butts in the seats.
dparker713
Footballguy
He looked ready, but I doubt the Pirates bring him up soon, but there is no chance they bring him up before June to avoid losing a year of arbitration. Though if they're not completely out of it by June, bringing up him and McCutchen would be quite a shot in the arm.
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
Yes it's actually a shame that the Buccos didn't wait until today to have their 10 run game. 10 runs may be enough run suppot for Snell.
Drunken Cowboy
Footballguy
I will take a 3-3 road trip to start the year.
Drunken Cowboy
Footballguy
September call up next year. June 2011 gets into the bigs to stay.
CrossEyed
Footballguy
Settle down, after going 3 for 4 in his first game he's 0 for 13 since. He'll be a September call up this year, and will spend at least the first two months next year in AAA. The earliest we see a permanent move to Pittsburgh is next June.eagles2007 said:
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Hoss_Cartwright
Footballguy
After seeing what the Navy Seals did to them yesterday, they're hardly in first place 
Sorry, I couldn't resist.
I would love to see the little guys on top in the end, but my guess is this would really piss off the media.
Sorry, I couldn't resist.
I would love to see the little guys on top in the end, but my guess is this would really piss off the media.
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CrossEyed
Footballguy
That was impressive. Who knows, if someone can get Snell's head to match his arm, this could end up being a decent staff.I love seeing Duke pitch so well
eagles2007
Footballguy
pirates get 10 and snell only needed 1. guess he wasn't just making excuses after game 1 when he said he was terribly sick and hadn't been able to eat in 10 days or so.
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
If he was that sick, then he shouldn't have been pitching. He was absolutely terrible last year and one good start this year does not make me optimistic. With that said, I do like the direction the Buccos are going in right now.
eagles2007
Footballguy
he's actually had 2 good starts in a row and has an 11 inning scoreless streak giong. watch out orel hershiser.
Steelers4Life
Footballguy
It's nice to see the pitching doing well, and it's even nicer to me to see Andy Laroche starting to get comfortable.
I see Snell as a guy with #2/#3 starter potential if he cuts down his walks, but I don't know what to truly make of Maholm or Duke given their abyssmal strikeout rates. I think Ohlendorf could be pretty decent too, but I'd really like Gorzelanny to get his act together and make an appearance later at the expense of Karstens.
But perhaps the most encouraging thing to me about the early season has been Brad Lincoln's starts in AA. He started putting things together down the stretch last year, and he has a 12:2 strikeout to walk ratio in his first 9 innings this year. The strikeouts are a telling sign of him being healthy again, and he's the one top of the rotation talent the Pirates have.
I see Snell as a guy with #2/#3 starter potential if he cuts down his walks, but I don't know what to truly make of Maholm or Duke given their abyssmal strikeout rates. I think Ohlendorf could be pretty decent too, but I'd really like Gorzelanny to get his act together and make an appearance later at the expense of Karstens.
But perhaps the most encouraging thing to me about the early season has been Brad Lincoln's starts in AA. He started putting things together down the stretch last year, and he has a 12:2 strikeout to walk ratio in his first 9 innings this year. The strikeouts are a telling sign of him being healthy again, and he's the one top of the rotation talent the Pirates have.
Drunken Cowboy
Footballguy
ok now lets talk.
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
Well I'm definitely impressed with the pitching right now. Just when things are going well......they lose a key player for 8-10 weeks. Typical luck for the Buccos......
. Regardless, if they pitch this like this, they'll win games even without their top hitters. I know this team isn't competing for anything this year but hopefully this is a sign of good things to come in the near future.Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
This sucks. They are def good enough this year to win every other game. Losing Doumit hurts bad though. We lack that big stick already, and this makes it more glaring. Too bad we didnt draft Wietersfred_1_15301 said:Well I'm definitely impressed with the pitching right now. Just when things are going well......they lose a key player for 8-10 weeks. Typical luck for the Buccos......Drunken Cowboy said:. Regardless, if they pitch this like this, they'll win games even without their top hitters. I know this team isn't competing for anything this year but hopefully this is a sign of good things to come in the near future.
I was at the Friday night and Saturday afternoon games of the Braves series this past weekend; great seats on Friday (1st row, 3B line)! Saturday was Ryan Doumit Bobblehead day and boy did he produce.
The Doumit injury definitely hurts and obviously the pitching staff won't keep up this pace, but we can hope! Maholm is starting to come into is own. Ohlendorf is smart (Princeton) and is impressing so far. Karstens looked very good last night. The big key, IMO, is if Snell and Duke can produce at the level that was expected a couple of years ago. It's a very young staff with quite a bit of talent.
They need to find a way to get Monroe's bat into the lineup more. He can crush the ball. Both of his homers on Saturday were to dead center.
The Doumit injury definitely hurts and obviously the pitching staff won't keep up this pace, but we can hope! Maholm is starting to come into is own. Ohlendorf is smart (Princeton) and is impressing so far. Karstens looked very good last night. The big key, IMO, is if Snell and Duke can produce at the level that was expected a couple of years ago. It's a very young staff with quite a bit of talent.
They need to find a way to get Monroe's bat into the lineup more. He can crush the ball. Both of his homers on Saturday were to dead center.
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
Now they start a road trip in SD and should avoid facing Peavy and Young........
