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OFFICIAL Tampa Bay Bucs 2008 thread (1 Viewer)
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Capella
Footballguy
As long as he's tagging that supermodel, Garcia can play until he's 50.
Sammy3469
Footballguy
you should be more worried about the fact that he's much more likely to slip a disc doing so.As long as he's tagging that supermodel, Garcia can play until he's 50.
Capella
Footballguy
let's be honest...who wouldn't?you should be more worried about the fact that he's much more likely to slip a disc doing so.As long as he's tagging that supermodel, Garcia can play until he's 50.
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
Cappy - Is This Your School - Do They Teach Grudenology?
The E Graham issue is going to be the big one for the offseason here. Do you think he's a flash in the pan?
-QG
The E Graham issue is going to be the big one for the offseason here. Do you think he's a flash in the pan?
-QG
Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
Nobody knows the answer to this question right now. So, you just have to go on your gut and slowly as time goes on we'll get more information. Not information as to what's out there right now, but as to how these players go after the starting job.To me, best case scenario for Caddy is for him to somehow win a RBBC position and even then he'll get dinged up somehow as he has so far in his career.How do you bench E. Graham? The guy was a horse and he can catch the ball. He had 49 catches, ran for 4.0 yards and carry and 10 TD's and didn't play a full season. What's most impressive to me is that he wasn't some systems RB where Tampa has been doing that with anyone and they just plugged in Graham. They were struggling at that position. He IS the reason they were finding success running the ball.My guess is that Graham is the guy next year. Cadillac when healthy will get some time but Graham will be your TD guy and the guy you see in when the game is one the line.
Capella
Footballguy
I really don't think Caddy will make an impact in 2008. He's not going to be ready until October at the earliest, and some reports have said he'll never have the cutting ability he once had. If you have Graham, I think you're sitting on a nice keeper for 2008. They'll need to invest a somewhat early pick in a RB though, as Pittman is probably gone and Bennett is worthless.
Capella
Footballguy
Cappy - Is This Your School - Do They Teach Grudenology?
The E Graham issue is going to be the big one for the offseason here. Do you think he's a flash in the pan?
-QG
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Capella
Footballguy
I think they're going to be looking for interior help on the dline. Or they'll throw the Brinks truck at Haynesworth. They do need WR help, bad.
Yes they do, Jeff Garcia has the arm strength of Chad Pennington's sister.
trader jake
Footballguy
Burning question: Is the 2008 Bucs team a better 0-0 team than the 2007 Bucs team was at this time? :shuked:
Tremendous Upside
Footballguy
I think Jackson has a high %age chance to be a bust...He was far from dominant in the no-defense Pac-10 and, while explosive, he is TINY...Hard to see a 5-10/170 pound guy as a big time receiver on the NFL level...
I don't like him much either. I'd rather see Kelly (if he drops that far) or Bowman.
KnowledgeReignsSupreme
Footballguy
I look forward to Sabertooth's insights in this thread.
Capella
Footballguy
We all are. Really, he's the reason I do this every year.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
What is Steve Smith's size?Tremendous Upside said:
I say focus on D in the draft (DL, LB, CB. in that order), and offense in free agency. I wouldn't mind landing someone who could stretch the field like Bernard Berrian, and the Nole in me would love to get Javon Walker.
As far as the EG / Caddy talk... If Caddy does come back I think he eventually takes the starting job. Everyone in this town is aware of the whole Gruden, and "his guys" issue. PR had an interview with Art Valero (former rb coach) where he pretty much bashed JG the whole time. I'm not saying I agree with all of it, but he said Gruden has his idea of what kind of players he wants in his system. Gruden wants speed, and according to Art that is why it took EG so long to get his chance. Bruce and John just got extended, so I would expect them to keep doing things there way.
I expect Gruden to use a 1st day pick on a RB. Look for a guy like Lorenzo Booker, who the Bucs almost took in the draft. I belive they ended up going with LB Quncy Black.
Fwiw, Art Valero did bring up something that had me going
In the begining of the NYG game awe had a pretty balanced drive that lead to a TD. After that we had 11 straight pass plays against the best pass rushing D in the league. :( I'm not one of the Gruden haters, but I think he makes it too complex sometimes. Like LJ said, football isn't chess it's checkers. If they think you are going to run you pass, and if they think you are going to pass you run. After 10 consecutive pass plays Gruden must have said "there is no way they think we are going to pass it again." lol We have the guards, and now it's time to pound the rock!
As far as the EG / Caddy talk... If Caddy does come back I think he eventually takes the starting job. Everyone in this town is aware of the whole Gruden, and "his guys" issue. PR had an interview with Art Valero (former rb coach) where he pretty much bashed JG the whole time. I'm not saying I agree with all of it, but he said Gruden has his idea of what kind of players he wants in his system. Gruden wants speed, and according to Art that is why it took EG so long to get his chance. Bruce and John just got extended, so I would expect them to keep doing things there way.
I expect Gruden to use a 1st day pick on a RB. Look for a guy like Lorenzo Booker, who the Bucs almost took in the draft. I belive they ended up going with LB Quncy Black.
Fwiw, Art Valero did bring up something that had me going
In the begining of the NYG game awe had a pretty balanced drive that lead to a TD. After that we had 11 straight pass plays against the best pass rushing D in the league. :( I'm not one of the Gruden haters, but I think he makes it too complex sometimes. Like LJ said, football isn't chess it's checkers. If they think you are going to run you pass, and if they think you are going to pass you run. After 10 consecutive pass plays Gruden must have said "there is no way they think we are going to pass it again." lol We have the guards, and now it's time to pound the rock!
Grahamburn
Footballguy
http://blogs.tampabay.com/bucs/2008/02/bucs-talk-trade.html
I thought I would post this in here for anyone interested. The link discusses the Bucs' interest in Rod Coleman, Alge Crumpler, and Javon Walker.
The additions of Walker and Coleman would go a long way toward improving what most Buc fans probably feel are the weakest links on this team. DL and WR.
I'm pretty excited about the direction this organization is taking and how many of the young players were able to contribute last season. Barrett Ruud, Tanard Jackson, Gaines Adams, Davin Joseph, Arron Sears, Jeremy Trueblood, etc. I'm also waiting to see how Sabby Piscitelli returns from injury.
The Bucs seem to be just a couple playmakers/gamebreakers away from being a contender.
I thought I would post this in here for anyone interested. The link discusses the Bucs' interest in Rod Coleman, Alge Crumpler, and Javon Walker.
The additions of Walker and Coleman would go a long way toward improving what most Buc fans probably feel are the weakest links on this team. DL and WR.
I'm pretty excited about the direction this organization is taking and how many of the young players were able to contribute last season. Barrett Ruud, Tanard Jackson, Gaines Adams, Davin Joseph, Arron Sears, Jeremy Trueblood, etc. I'm also waiting to see how Sabby Piscitelli returns from injury.
The Bucs seem to be just a couple playmakers/gamebreakers away from being a contender.
I agree with that completely.
I really want Alge Crumpler. After seeing Garcia utilize a stud TE in the pro bowl, I realize what we currently don't have at the position. Gruden is creative enough to use both Smith & Crumpler since he likes to use 2 TE sets. Alex Smith could actually benefit to us landing a guy like Crumpler, as the O will open up where Gruden would be able to spread the ball around.
$44 mil under 
With the release of Spires and Carter, I would say DL is def the top priority now. I wouldn't be surprised if Coleman is one of the first names announced.
I heard something interesting today. Being so low under the cap, Gruden and BA have another chance to stick it to the Raiders. If we were to sign Asante Samuel, we could choose to give a large portion of his signing bonus this year. That would drive the average of the top 5 at the position to go way up, thus forcing the Raiders to pay their franchised CB more. Though, I don't think we need to overspend on a CB while running our D.
With the release of Spires and Carter, I would say DL is def the top priority now. I wouldn't be surprised if Coleman is one of the first names announced.
I heard something interesting today. Being so low under the cap, Gruden and BA have another chance to stick it to the Raiders. If we were to sign Asante Samuel, we could choose to give a large portion of his signing bonus this year. That would drive the average of the top 5 at the position to go way up, thus forcing the Raiders to pay their franchised CB more. Though, I don't think we need to overspend on a CB while running our D.
When that rumor came up Tampa was the 1st team I thought of.
RoosterScott
Footballguy
Any thoughts now on Ben Troupe's value after agreeing to a 2-yr deal? Renessaince year in Gruden's offense? What does this mean for Alex Smith? I like the signing. Troupe struggled in TENN with Young so I wonder what he will do with a better passing QB. Any thoughts?
Punchie
Footballguy
Troupe is nice for depth, he'll fill Stevens' spot. Bucs lost Becht and Stevens in FA so the addition of Troupe certainly fills a depth need.
Capella
Footballguy
I agree with the first two, but I'm not sure Alexander is a fit here.The quote was just funny to me -- how serious it was.
cstu
Footballguy
Did you ask about Caddy?
Calrissian
Footballguy
darn straight, cappy. it's been a very good year thus far for us buckaroos. it makes the draft even much more fun to watch... go bucs!
I really like the Bucs day 1 pics. They got a stud at CB to replace BK, and they got the blazing fast Dexter Jackson. Finally, we should be able to see some special teams excitement!If the Jason Taylor trade goes through this D is going to be nasty. They were #2 last year, and they just got a top notch CB, and someone to help pressure the QB.
gump
Footballguy
Where does that stand now? I haven't seen anything since Friday's rumor...
Haven't hard anything. I thought D-line was a priority, but the weeks leading up to the draft I heard Jovan Haye's name being thrown around in trade rumors. So if they were willing to part with him, maybe they felt comfortable along the line... Maybe I'm just delusional in thinking we will find another Warren Sapp one day...
Capella
Footballguy
Sapp was a generational player. Forget about replacing that.
I like what they've done well enough. The corner was necessary and they've never invested in a 'stud' there. Unsure about the diminutive wideout, but if he can give us field position on returns then I'm more than happy.
Love that they continue to build the line. Can never have enough guys there.
I like what they've done well enough. The corner was necessary and they've never invested in a 'stud' there. Unsure about the diminutive wideout, but if he can give us field position on returns then I'm more than happy.
Love that they continue to build the line. Can never have enough guys there.
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