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***Officialish Detroit Tigers Thread*** (1 Viewer)

Doctor Detroit said:
Anthony Borbely said:
Bringing Valverde in early is one thing. However, there is no excuse for allowing your closer to throw 60 pitches.
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Which meant he couldn't use Valverde Saturday when he needed him and they lost, and yesterday when he couldn't use Coke or Valverde in the 9th when he could have used either instead of Brad ####### Thomas. Leyland pissed away a three game sweep that they desperately needed. Bring in Perry to pitch to Ortiz on Friday, he would have done no worse than Valverde did. Valverde was at 34 pitches after that 3rd walk, you could have brought him back on Sunday at least. But why bring in Valverde in the 8th anyway? Even if he needed the work you have the 9th inning. Let Coke pitch out of the 8th, bring in Valverde in the 9th. If Coke gets in real trouble in the 8th, then maybe Valverde because you are desperate for a win. But using him for a 4 out non save on Friday could very well mean you can't use him on Saturday, I mean this is common sense. None of it made any sense to me. Leyland is extra terrible managing double headers, but he's bad managing his bullpen in crucial situations. I think normally he is no worse than any other manager at managing the pen. Problem is he plays to his favorites way to often and he obviously doesn't trust Perry who he should have left in on Saturday. He should have left Perry in to face Scutaro, and then to face the lefthanded Patterson who stinks to avoid the pinch hit. If Scuatro reaches, you pull Perry but Perry is more likely to induce a ground ball than Coke (.90 to .87). If not you let him face Patterson and Youk. I honestly don't second guess this stuff usually, but this weekend was really a great example of how not to use a bullpen correctly.
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This happens every season... a lot. Yet people still defend him. His charade is old and tired.
 
"Not under any circumstances do I like (him throwing) that much. It's one of those Catch-22's. Do you or don't you (let him last that long)? I'd be lying if I said I knew the exact answer. It was certainly not something we wanted to happen, but it did." — Manager Jim Leyland, after allowing closer RHP Jose Valverde to throw 60 pitches to nail down a 6-5 win Friday at Boston.

This should clear up what Leyland was thinking.

 
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You know its bad when you can't wait for Brandon Inge and Carlos Guillen to get back to improve the offense.

 
So the Tigers are now 53-55. They have 54 games left.

Want to make guesses as to the final record?

I say 72-90. 4th place finish.

 
whoknew said:
So the Tigers are now 53-55. They have 54 games left. Want to make guesses as to the final record?I say 72-90. 4th place finish.
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This would assume KC or Cleveland will win 73 games, I don't think that will happen. I'm gonna guess they get hot in September and finish around .500. 82-80
 
Doctor Detroit said:
whoknew said:
So the Tigers are now 53-55. They have 54 games left. Want to make guesses as to the final record?I say 72-90. 4th place finish.
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This would assume KC or Cleveland will win 73 games, I don't think that will happen. I'm gonna guess they get hot in September and finish around .500. 82-80
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Schedule softens up after the mid August trip to NY. Guys like Inge and Guillen will be back in the lineup. It's all a question of whether this team quits like it did in 2008. I am thinking they fall short of .500 and finish 76-86 - I think they continue to get beaten up by LA, Tampa, and NY over the next week or so and then basically play .500 ball the rest of the season.
 
I'm too lazy to post the link but Ilitch told the Detroit News today that Dombrowski and Leyland will both be back next year.

 
skillz said:
I'm too lazy to post the link but Ilitch told the Detroit News today that Dombrowski and Leyland will both be back next year.
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Very strange that Illitch would make the decision on the manager.
 
skillz said:
I'm too lazy to post the link but Ilitch told the Detroit News today that Dombrowski and Leyland will both be back next year.
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$$$$$$ Illitch does not want to pay off the extensions both received. Leyland wanted one more payday and he got it.
 
Da Guru said:
skillz said:
I'm too lazy to post the link but Ilitch told the Detroit News today that Dombrowski and Leyland will both be back next year.
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$$$$$$ Illitch does not want to pay off the extensions both received. Leyland wanted one more payday and he got it.
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:goodposting: Illitch is one of the richer owners, paying off either would be a drop in the bucket for him.
 
Doctor Detroit said:
Da Guru said:
skillz said:
I'm too lazy to post the link but Ilitch told the Detroit News today that Dombrowski and Leyland will both be back next year.
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$$$$$$ Illitch does not want to pay off the extensions both received. Leyland wanted one more payday and he got it.
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:lmao: Illitch is one of the richer owners, paying off either would be a drop in the bucket for him.
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And now he's notified the NBA that he wants to buy the Pistons.
 
mattmillen said:
Doctor Detroit said:
Da Guru said:
skillz said:
I'm too lazy to post the link but Ilitch told the Detroit News today that Dombrowski and Leyland will both be back next year.
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$$$$$$ Illitch does not want to pay off the extensions both received. Leyland wanted one more payday and he got it.
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:fishy: Illitch is one of the richer owners, paying off either would be a drop in the bucket for him.
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And now he's notified the NBA that he wants to buy the Pistons.
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After buying the Pistons he would just need the Lions and then he could buy a hotel.
 
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Leroy Hoard said:
mattmillen said:
Doctor Detroit said:
Da Guru said:
skillz said:
I'm too lazy to post the link but Ilitch told the Detroit News today that Dombrowski and Leyland will both be back next year.
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$$$$$$ Illitch does not want to pay off the extensions both received. Leyland wanted one more payday and he got it.
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:lmao: Illitch is one of the richer owners, paying off either would be a drop in the bucket for him.
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And now he's notified the NBA that he wants to buy the Pistons.
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After buying the Pistons he would just need the Lions and then he could buy a hotel.
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But is he using the iron or the wheel barrow?
 
Was watching the A's/Mariners and Mark Ellis bounced into a triple play, and he was safe at first. Not that it relates to the Tigers, but what does is in the next half inning Jeff Larish trotted out to 1B for the A's. I missed the news he had been claimed off waivers, can't see him ever being all that good but it seemed like his options sure ran out fast.

 
Leyland is the worst "game" manager in the bigs bar none. He constantly leaves starters in a few ABs too many, pulls them with low pitch counts and throwing gems and puts out an abortion of a lineup on a daily basis...it is unfathomable how the best hitter in the A.L and possibly all of ball doesn't bat 3rd and get up automtically in the first inning :rant:

I hate that ol senile goat and I sure as f0ck hope he isn't back next year...

Hey, let's "rest" TWENTY THREE yr old Austin JAckson every 5th game or so to keep him "fresh" but let's also send Boesch to the plate nightly in a horrific slump :shrug: :rant: ...oh....and then Boesch gets a few hits so lets sit him "cause he's in a groove"....what a complete ####tard...I honestly wish bad things on that guy :shock:

 
Why does Lloyd McClendon still have a job?

Miggy picked about the worst possible time to go into a slump, incredible. Boesch seems to be coming out of his slump, everyone else is just awful. I feel really bad for Max Scherzer who once again pitches great and has nothing to show for it.

 
Leyland, alone, should be fired for his continuous lineup selection that includes Ryan Raburn. How many ####### games does it take you to go: hmmm, this guy isn't good. Leyland is a jack ###.

 
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Tigers 3rd

Matt Garza pitching:

Gerald Laird : Foul, Ball, Laird grounded out to shortstop.

Austin Jackson : Ball, Ball, Jackson reached on an infield single.

Johnny Damon : Damon fouled out to first.

Brennan Boesch : Boesch singled to right, Jackson to third.

Miguel Cabrera : Ball, Ball, Ball, Cabrera intentionally walked, Boesch to second.

Jhonny Peralta : Ball, Ball, Strike looking, Peralta lined out to shortstop.

Tigers 5th

Matt Garza pitching:

Gerald Laird : Ball, Strike looking, Foul, Laird struck out swinging.

Austin Jackson : Strike looking, Foul, Ball, Ball, Ball, Foul, Jackson struck out swinging.

Johnny Damon : Ball, Strike looking, Damon reached on an infield single.

Brennan Boesch : Foul, Strike swinging, Ball, Foul, Boesch hit by pitch, Damon to second.

Miguel Cabrera : Ball, Ball, Ball, Cabrera walked, Damon to third, Boesch to second.

Jhonny Peralta : Strike looking, Ball, Foul, Ball, Peralta lined out to third.

:goodposting:

 
Boy this thread turned ugly fast... think on the bright side, at least you don't have to hang around all year only to miss the playoffs come October.

 
Green94 said:
Boy this thread turned ugly fast... think on the bright side, at least you don't have to hang around all year only to miss the playoffs come October.
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In the long run, it's better this way. At least the false hopes that hid the weaknesses are gone. Too bad Leyland isn't gone with them.
 
Green94 said:
Boy this thread turned ugly fast... think on the bright side, at least you don't have to hang around all year only to miss the playoffs come October.
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What did you expect given the team is 7-22 since the all star game? Punch and pie?Also winning the AL Central has led to a lot of first round exits lately, this year will be no different.
 
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Doctor Detroit said:
Also winning the AL Central has led to a lot of first round exits lately, this year will be no different.
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I don't think much of Texas and TB has been so hit or miss this year (regardless of record), neither of these teams could beat the Yankees though.
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Texas is Chicago with better hitting and Cliff Lee and Tampa has a ton of arms which is tough in the playoffs. The only hope for the AL Central winner is hoping to draw Tampa and then Texas beating the Yankees which I think is possible.
 
Greco said:
Did Atl want Inge or did I dream that?
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Not sure what happened but I think the Tigers were trying to get him through waivers to Atlanta and someone else claimed him, and they pulled him back. That is one rumor anyway, but you'd have to think Atlanta would take him especially since it would probably only cost them a low level prospect.
 
Premier said:
Green94 said:
Doctor Detroit said:
Also winning the AL Central has led to a lot of first round exits lately, this year will be no different.
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I don't think much of Texas and TB has been so hit or miss this year (regardless of record), neither of these teams could beat the Yankees though.
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The Rays have a winning record against the Yankees this year. :goodposting:
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So?
 
Who knew this team had 13 runs in them for a series, yet in one game?

Two sweet wins there, would have been a lot nicer if the team was only 5 games out. If they can play spoiler and beat teams like the Yankees, Rangers, Twins and White Sox maybe there will be positive things to take out of the season. Certainly playing all these young guys has to help.

Not sure what the deal with Valverde is, they are saying abdominal strain.

 
Green94 said:
Premier said:
Green94 said:
Doctor Detroit said:
Also winning the AL Central has led to a lot of first round exits lately, this year will be no different.
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I don't think much of Texas and TB has been so hit or miss this year (regardless of record), neither of these teams could beat the Yankees though.
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The Rays have a winning record against the Yankees this year. :potkettle:
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So?
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So even though they have a winning record against the Yankees this year, you don't think they can beat the Yankees? :lol:
 
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