i agree, so-so top of class, but VERY deep... in that draft i just posted, i (painsworths) got guys i loved in late 2nd and early 3rd and eventually traded a. gonzo for b.lafellInteresting so far:1) Top 5 is pretty consistent2) Second tier 6-10 is consistent in terms of players but varies in terms of order3) Third tier of WRs is all over the map4) I am surprised that Bradford is consistently going in top 10.5) There are some definite gems that are falling into the end of the first and early second despite people claiming this is not a deep draft. I disagree; the top is pretty average but the depth is actually very good.6) I am surprised a bit that Gresham continues to go in the first round. How does he compare to other first round rookie picks in recent years like Winslow or Vernon Davis, or Greg Olsen. Is he a "sure" thing?
In what way is this class deep? Our definitions must be different, maybe you're looking at deep sleepers, I am not sure. Take a non ppr league and after you take the top 4 guys from this year (best/spiller/matthews/bryant) out and take the top 4 last year (wells/moreno/brown/crabtree) and go ahead and wash out bey with thomas this year, then wash out bradford and stafford, who left from this year lights a candle to Greene/Maclin/Harvin/Nicks/Britt/Sanchez/Freeman. It might be deep with garbage but it's not deep with quality after pick 4.i agree, so-so top of class, but VERY deep... in that draft i just posted, i (painsworths) got guys i loved in late 2nd and early 3rd and eventually traded a. gonzo for b.lafellInteresting so far:1) Top 5 is pretty consistent2) Second tier 6-10 is consistent in terms of players but varies in terms of order3) Third tier of WRs is all over the map4) I am surprised that Bradford is consistently going in top 10.5) There are some definite gems that are falling into the end of the first and early second despite people claiming this is not a deep draft. I disagree; the top is pretty average but the depth is actually very good.6) I am surprised a bit that Gresham continues to go in the first round. How does he compare to other first round rookie picks in recent years like Winslow or Vernon Davis, or Greg Olsen. Is he a "sure" thing?
In what way is this class deep? Our definitions must be different, maybe you're looking at deep sleepers, I am not sure. Take a non ppr league and after you take the top 4 guys from this year (best/spiller/matthews/bryant) out and take the top 4 last year (wells/moreno/brown/crabtree) and go ahead and wash out bey with thomas this year, then wash out bradford and stafford, who left from this year lights a candle to Greene/Maclin/Harvin/Nicks/Britt/Sanchez/Freeman. It might be deep with garbage but it's not deep with quality after pick 4.i agree, so-so top of class, but VERY deep... in that draft i just posted, i (painsworths) got guys i loved in late 2nd and early 3rd and eventually traded a. gonzo for b.lafellInteresting so far:1) Top 5 is pretty consistent2) Second tier 6-10 is consistent in terms of players but varies in terms of order3) Third tier of WRs is all over the map4) I am surprised that Bradford is consistently going in top 10.5) There are some definite gems that are falling into the end of the first and early second despite people claiming this is not a deep draft. I disagree; the top is pretty average but the depth is actually very good.6) I am surprised a bit that Gresham continues to go in the first round. How does he compare to other first round rookie picks in recent years like Winslow or Vernon Davis, or Greg Olsen. Is he a "sure" thing?
TE's are extremely deep. I'll be surprised if there's not more than 1 that ends up consistently in the top 10-15 when they reach their peak in the next 3+ years. Besides Bryant, I'm expecting 3-4 WR's to be in the top 30. Do you really think out of M Williams/A Benn, there won't be a good fantasy starter in TB?In what way is this class deep? Our definitions must be different, maybe you're looking at deep sleepers, I am not sure. Take a non ppr league and after you take the top 4 guys from this year (best/spiller/matthews/bryant) out and take the top 4 last year (wells/moreno/brown/crabtree) and go ahead and wash out bey with thomas this year, then wash out bradford and stafford, who left from this year lights a candle to Greene/Maclin/Harvin/Nicks/Britt/Sanchez/Freeman. It might be deep with garbage but it's not deep with quality after pick 4.i agree, so-so top of class, but VERY deep... in that draft i just posted, i (painsworths) got guys i loved in late 2nd and early 3rd and eventually traded a. gonzo for b.lafellInteresting so far:1) Top 5 is pretty consistent2) Second tier 6-10 is consistent in terms of players but varies in terms of order3) Third tier of WRs is all over the map4) I am surprised that Bradford is consistently going in top 10.5) There are some definite gems that are falling into the end of the first and early second despite people claiming this is not a deep draft. I disagree; the top is pretty average but the depth is actually very good.6) I am surprised a bit that Gresham continues to go in the first round. How does he compare to other first round rookie picks in recent years like Winslow or Vernon Davis, or Greg Olsen. Is he a "sure" thing?
i was never a greene/maclin/britt/freeman fan... but its the 3rd tier players in this draft that set it apart from other drafts. love guys like andre roberts, carlton mitchell, rob gronkowski, jimmy clausen, colt mccoy. the WRs in particular i love.with that said, i do own shonn greene in my .5 ppr dynasty, and dont plan on trading him anytime soonIn what way is this class deep? Our definitions must be different, maybe you're looking at deep sleepers, I am not sure. Take a non ppr league and after you take the top 4 guys from this year (best/spiller/matthews/bryant) out and take the top 4 last year (wells/moreno/brown/crabtree) and go ahead and wash out bey with thomas this year, then wash out bradford and stafford, who left from this year lights a candle to Greene/Maclin/Harvin/Nicks/Britt/Sanchez/Freeman. It might be deep with garbage but it's not deep with quality after pick 4.i agree, so-so top of class, but VERY deep... in that draft i just posted, i (painsworths) got guys i loved in late 2nd and early 3rd and eventually traded a. gonzo for b.lafellInteresting so far:1) Top 5 is pretty consistent2) Second tier 6-10 is consistent in terms of players but varies in terms of order3) Third tier of WRs is all over the map4) I am surprised that Bradford is consistently going in top 10.5) There are some definite gems that are falling into the end of the first and early second despite people claiming this is not a deep draft. I disagree; the top is pretty average but the depth is actually very good.6) I am surprised a bit that Gresham continues to go in the first round. How does he compare to other first round rookie picks in recent years like Winslow or Vernon Davis, or Greg Olsen. Is he a "sure" thing?
That's very easy to say a year removed. Harvin, Britt, Maclin, Sanchez (lol, really?), Freeman????....You act like these guys were all known commodities immediately after draft day last year. You think there's no chance that Ben Tate is equal or better than Shonn Green? What exactly has Green done to make you think that his rookie season is so untouchable by Ben Tate or Monterio Hardesty? Was it his 541 yards or his two TDs?Britt? 42/701/3 not obtainable by Benn, Golden Tate, Williams, LeFell or anyone else that is likely to be a starter this year? Why not? Hell, if you are actually calling Freeman a breakout rookie then by all means you can not exclue Benn and/or Williams from a likely 42 catch season.Maclin had decent stats. But I'll say right now with certainty that Golden Tate is held in higher regard than Maclin was at this point last season. He has the speed and much better hands and a more clear route to the starting job than Maclin did. Maclin went 2.01 in my draft last year and Golden Tate should fall around 10th pick this year.Harvin? Take your pick... McCluster, Hardesty, Lefell, Giliard... I mean there are literally half a dozen players that *could* easily put up better stats than Harvin. The most obvious comparison is McCluster - to specifically answer your question. Again, you act like Harvin was a sure thing this time last year. He was every bit the question that McCluster is right now.Funny you mentioned Sanchez... considering any fantasy team that ever relies on the Jets QB as thier starter will never make the playoffs. I sure hope there are no equivalent prospects this year. All joking aside.... Sanchez was not regarded any higher than Clausen is this year. We can probably throw in Tewbow or McCoy to cover the Josh Freemen equivalent. And don't even try to tell me anyone drafted Freeman any higher than the 3rd round in their rookie draft last year.Also, I love how you say Demaryius Thomas "cancels out" DHB. Everyone not named Al Davis knew DHB was a bust. He was drafted well into the 2nd round in my drafts laft year and everyone who took him knew it was a bad pick the instant they seleced him. Thomas is being drafted in the 1.05 to 1.08 ragne with Dez type upside.On the surface, this draft is as deep as any. You will never know for sure until we see who pans out and who doesn't. None of the players you named were considered "sure things". You conveniently picked the guys that panned out and acted like everyone had these guys as their top picks with confidence. What you are forgetting is that last year everyone was saying that if you didn't have a top 6 pick, it was pure garbage after that and there was "no depth" in the draft.But whatever. Trade up or trade out if you don't like the prospects.In what way is this class deep? Our definitions must be different, maybe you're looking at deep sleepers, I am not sure. Take a non ppr league and after you take the top 4 guys from this year (best/spiller/matthews/bryant) out and take the top 4 last year (wells/moreno/brown/crabtree) and go ahead and wash out bey with thomas this year, then wash out bradford and stafford, who left from this year lights a candle to Greene/Maclin/Harvin/Nicks/Britt/Sanchez/Freeman. It might be deep with garbage but it's not deep with quality after pick 4.i agree, so-so top of class, but VERY deep... in that draft i just posted, i (painsworths) got guys i loved in late 2nd and early 3rd and eventually traded a. gonzo for b.lafellInteresting so far:1) Top 5 is pretty consistent2) Second tier 6-10 is consistent in terms of players but varies in terms of order3) Third tier of WRs is all over the map4) I am surprised that Bradford is consistently going in top 10.5) There are some definite gems that are falling into the end of the first and early second despite people claiming this is not a deep draft. I disagree; the top is pretty average but the depth is actually very good.6) I am surprised a bit that Gresham continues to go in the first round. How does he compare to other first round rookie picks in recent years like Winslow or Vernon Davis, or Greg Olsen. Is he a "sure" thing?
1.01 1. ILUVBEER Mathews, Ryan SDC RB Sun Apr 25 10:42:52 p.m. ET 20101.02 2. ILUVBEER Spiller, C.J. BUF RB Sun Apr 25 10:44:53 p.m. ET 20101.03 3. ILUVBEER Bryant, Dez DAL WR Sun Apr 25 10:45:31 p.m. ET 20101.04 4. Ghost Kitties Best, Jahvid DET RB Sun Apr 25 10:50:25 p.m. ET 20101.05 5. Coyote 13 Tate, Ben HOU RB Mon Apr 26 9:19:13 a.m. ET 20101.06 6. Karen's Nightmare Bradford, Sam STL QB Mon Apr 26 2:07:53 p.m. ET 20101.07 7. ILUVBEER Thomas, Demaryius DEN WR Mon Apr 26 2:49:04 p.m. ET 20101.08 8. Velvet Elvis Hardesty, Montario CLE RB Mon Apr 26 10:25:15 p.m. ET 20101.09 9. ILUVBEER Benn, Arrelious TBB WR Tue Apr 27 9:40:05 a.m. ET 20101.10 10. B.C. Lightning Gresham, Jermaine CIN TE Wed Apr 28 4:01:33 a.m. ET 20101.11 11. Boston Freds Tate, Golden SEA WR Wed Apr 28 1:22:30 p.m. ET 20101.12 12. Canadian Bacon Williams, Mike TBB WR Wed Apr 28 1:23:21 p.m. ET 20101.13 13. Pimpin' Prophetz Dwyer, Jonathan PIT RB Wed Apr 28 2:10:12 p.m. ET 20101.14 14. Hurricanes Gerhart, Toby MIN RB Wed Apr 28 2:30:29 p.m. ET 20102.01 15. Karen's Nightmare Clausen, Jimmy CAR QB Wed Apr 28 3:36:48 p.m. ET 20102.02 16. Colorado e.Coli McCluster, Dexter KCC WR Wed Apr 28 7:41:14 p.m. ET 20102.03 17. Velvet Elvis Williams, Damian TEN WR Thu Apr 29 7:20:43 a.m. ET 2010 Jimmy Smith???2.04 18. Ghost Kitties Hernandez, Aaron NEP TE Thu Apr 29 11:45:26 a.m. ET 20102.05 19. Coyote 13 Mitchell, Carlton CLE WR Thu Apr 29 12:19:09 p.m. ET 20102.06 20. Karen's Nightmare Tebow, Tim DEN QB Thu Apr 29 2:47:39 p.m. ET 20102.07 21. Colorado e.Coli Sanders, Emmanuel PIT WR Thu Apr 29 2:57:29 p.m. ET 20102.08 22. Pimpin' Prophetz McKnight, Joe NYJ RB Thu Apr 29 4:15:37 p.m. ET 20102.09 23. Karen's Nightmare McCoy, Colt CLE QB Thu Apr 29 4:40:39 p.m. ET 20102.10 24. ILUVBEER LaFell, Brandon CAR WR Thu Apr 29 4:45:48 p.m. ET 2010
I took Freeman in the 2nd round last year. I'm sure lots of guys did. You say Sanchez wasn't highly regarded? He went in the top 5 of the draft and everyone knew he'd go high, it wasn't a shock at all. Prior to this draft Mayock kept saying if Clausen gets past Seattle at 14 he was going to slide and slide far down to pick 30 at best. You realize you are saying that Clausen is as good as Sanchez, who went #5 and who went #48? With Greene, you say Tate is just as good. I 100% disagree. I had Greene as a borderline 1st round pick in the NFL draft last year, that's where I had him ranked. I had Ben Tate in the 5th round this year, he only moved up a bit for me cause of the combine, originally I had him as a 6th round pick, he has zero balance and can't block a toddler. I'll go out on a limb and say Ben Tate will bust and bust hard, he should have been drafted in round 5 or 6, the Texans blew that call.You know, I just realized that I left LeSean McCoy completely off the list, my bad, another one for 2009. Yes McCoy and Greene were much more highly regarded than Tate this year, are you seriously saying that anyone liked Tate prior to the draft, I'd love to see where they had Tate as a top 5 back. You do realize 7 WRs went and 3 QBS went last year while only 2 WRs went and 1 QB went this year in the 1st round of the draft? I would have to speculate that Scouts/GMS/Coaches know a little something. You just compared McCluster to Harvin, I am speechless.You compare guys like Lafell and Gilyard to Britt, I'm pretty sure Britt was much higher regarded than Lafell was. Do you even watch the drafts? I like Gilyard, don't get me wrong. When Britt was drafted the word on the draft sets was that Britt could be a #1 WR, while Gilyard was seen as a guy who could play special teams and MIGHT make a good slot receiver, not in the same league there. Your comparing a 1st rounder to a 4th rounder and saying he has just as much chance of success? That just doesn't make good common sense.Golden Tate was higher regarded than Maclin? What are you smoking? That is just wrong.The reason Bradford is going in the top 10 so often is obvious, this class is garbage.I'm really not trying to rip any particular guy here, you just either don't remember last year or don't want to realize how horrible this class in 2010 is.That's very easy to say a year removed. Harvin, Britt, Maclin, Sanchez (lol, really?), Freeman????....You act like these guys were all known commodities immediately after draft day last year. You think there's no chance that Ben Tate is equal or better than Shonn Green? What exactly has Green done to make you think that his rookie season is so untouchable by Ben Tate or Monterio Hardesty? Was it his 541 yards or his two TDs?Britt? 42/701/3 not obtainable by Benn, Golden Tate, Williams, LeFell or anyone else that is likely to be a starter this year? Why not? Hell, if you are actually calling Freeman a breakout rookie then by all means you can not exclue Benn and/or Williams from a likely 42 catch season.Maclin had decent stats. But I'll say right now with certainty that Golden Tate is held in higher regard than Maclin was at this point last season. He has the speed and much better hands and a more clear route to the starting job than Maclin did. Maclin went 2.01 in my draft last year and Golden Tate should fall around 10th pick this year.Harvin? Take your pick... McCluster, Hardesty, Lefell, Giliard... I mean there are literally half a dozen players that *could* easily put up better stats than Harvin. The most obvious comparison is McCluster - to specifically answer your question. Again, you act like Harvin was a sure thing this time last year. He was every bit the question that McCluster is right now.Funny you mentioned Sanchez... considering any fantasy team that ever relies on the Jets QB as thier starter will never make the playoffs. I sure hope there are no equivalent prospects this year. All joking aside.... Sanchez was not regarded any higher than Clausen is this year. We can probably throw in Tewbow or McCoy to cover the Josh Freemen equivalent. And don't even try to tell me anyone drafted Freeman any higher than the 3rd round in their rookie draft last year.Also, I love how you say Demaryius Thomas "cancels out" DHB. Everyone not named Al Davis knew DHB was a bust. He was drafted well into the 2nd round in my drafts laft year and everyone who took him knew it was a bad pick the instant they seleced him. Thomas is being drafted in the 1.05 to 1.08 ragne with Dez type upside.On the surface, this draft is as deep as any. You will never know for sure until we see who pans out and who doesn't. None of the players you named were considered "sure things". You conveniently picked the guys that panned out and acted like everyone had these guys as their top picks with confidence. What you are forgetting is that last year everyone was saying that if you didn't have a top 6 pick, it was pure garbage after that and there was "no depth" in the draft.But whatever. Trade up or trade out if you don't like the prospects.In what way is this class deep? Our definitions must be different, maybe you're looking at deep sleepers, I am not sure. Take a non ppr league and after you take the top 4 guys from this year (best/spiller/matthews/bryant) out and take the top 4 last year (wells/moreno/brown/crabtree) and go ahead and wash out bey with thomas this year, then wash out bradford and stafford, who left from this year lights a candle to Greene/Maclin/Harvin/Nicks/Britt/Sanchez/Freeman. It might be deep with garbage but it's not deep with quality after pick 4.i agree, so-so top of class, but VERY deep... in that draft i just posted, i (painsworths) got guys i loved in late 2nd and early 3rd and eventually traded a. gonzo for b.lafellInteresting so far:1) Top 5 is pretty consistent2) Second tier 6-10 is consistent in terms of players but varies in terms of order3) Third tier of WRs is all over the map4) I am surprised that Bradford is consistently going in top 10.5) There are some definite gems that are falling into the end of the first and early second despite people claiming this is not a deep draft. I disagree; the top is pretty average but the depth is actually very good.6) I am surprised a bit that Gresham continues to go in the first round. How does he compare to other first round rookie picks in recent years like Winslow or Vernon Davis, or Greg Olsen. Is he a "sure" thing?
For non-offensive skill positions it probably was.Didn't I hear during the draft coverage that this was one of the deepest classes in a decade?
Yes, regarding O Linemen, TE and Defense in general. Bad class for WR, QB.Didn't I hear during the draft coverage that this was one of the deepest classes in a decade?
So true..except hopefully it will be here all summer I have a few more "super duper high upside picks" to trade for proven commodities.Hi, my name is rookie hype and I'll be here all week...Maclin came out as a redshirt Sophmore and went in the top 20 picks...Tate went at #60 and wasn't even the best WR on his college team, give me a break.
Tate might do alright but he isn't in the same ballpark as Maclin. Your Harvin comparison is equally bad. You're either selling picks or new at this.That's very easy to say a year removed. Harvin, Britt, Maclin, Sanchez (lol, really?), Freeman????....
You act like these guys were all known commodities immediately after draft day last year. You think there's no chance that Ben Tate is equal or better than Shonn Green? What exactly has Green done to make you think that his rookie season is so untouchable by Ben Tate or Monterio Hardesty? Was it his 541 yards or his two TDs?
Britt? 42/701/3 not obtainable by Benn, Golden Tate, Williams, LeFell or anyone else that is likely to be a starter this year? Why not? Hell, if you are actually calling Freeman a breakout rookie then by all means you can not exclue Benn and/or Williams from a likely 42 catch season.
Maclin had decent stats. But I'll say right now with certainty that Golden Tate is held in higher regard than Maclin was at this point last season. He has the speed and much better hands and a more clear route to the starting job than Maclin did. Maclin went 2.01 in my draft last year and Golden Tate should fall around 10th pick this year.
Harvin? Take your pick... McCluster, Hardesty, Lefell, Giliard... I mean there are literally half a dozen players that *could* easily put up better stats than Harvin. The most obvious comparison is McCluster - to specifically answer your question. Again, you act like Harvin was a sure thing this time last year. He was every bit the question that McCluster is right now.
Funny you mentioned Sanchez... considering any fantasy team that ever relies on the Jets QB as thier starter will never make the playoffs. I sure hope there are no equivalent prospects this year. All joking aside.... Sanchez was not regarded any higher than Clausen is this year. We can probably throw in Tewbow or McCoy to cover the Josh Freemen equivalent. And don't even try to tell me anyone drafted Freeman any higher than the 3rd round in their rookie draft last year.
Also, I love how you say Demaryius Thomas "cancels out" DHB. Everyone not named Al Davis knew DHB was a bust. He was drafted well into the 2nd round in my drafts laft year and everyone who took him knew it was a bad pick the instant they seleced him. Thomas is being drafted in the 1.05 to 1.08 ragne with Dez type upside.
On the surface, this draft is as deep as any. You will never know for sure until we see who pans out and who doesn't. None of the players you named were considered "sure things". You conveniently picked the guys that panned out and acted like everyone had these guys as their top picks with confidence. What you are forgetting is that last year everyone was saying that if you didn't have a top 6 pick, it was pure garbage after that and there was "no depth" in the draft.
But whatever. Trade up or trade out if you don't like the prospects.
I hate revisionist history more than anyone on this board and constantly call people out on it (so I'd love to get on your side here), but you're way off. Some of those comparisons you're making are so far beyond crazy talk I don't even know how to reply.That's very easy to say a year removed. Harvin, Britt, Maclin, Sanchez (lol, really?), Freeman????....You act like these guys were all known commodities immediately after draft day last year. You think there's no chance that Ben Tate is equal or better than Shonn Green? What exactly has Green done to make you think that his rookie season is so untouchable by Ben Tate or Monterio Hardesty? Was it his 541 yards or his two TDs?Britt? 42/701/3 not obtainable by Benn, Golden Tate, Williams, LeFell or anyone else that is likely to be a starter this year? Why not? Hell, if you are actually calling Freeman a breakout rookie then by all means you can not exclue Benn and/or Williams from a likely 42 catch season.Maclin had decent stats. But I'll say right now with certainty that Golden Tate is held in higher regard than Maclin was at this point last season. He has the speed and much better hands and a more clear route to the starting job than Maclin did. Maclin went 2.01 in my draft last year and Golden Tate should fall around 10th pick this year.Harvin? Take your pick... McCluster, Hardesty, Lefell, Giliard... I mean there are literally half a dozen players that *could* easily put up better stats than Harvin. The most obvious comparison is McCluster - to specifically answer your question. Again, you act like Harvin was a sure thing this time last year. He was every bit the question that McCluster is right now.Funny you mentioned Sanchez... considering any fantasy team that ever relies on the Jets QB as thier starter will never make the playoffs. I sure hope there are no equivalent prospects this year. All joking aside.... Sanchez was not regarded any higher than Clausen is this year. We can probably throw in Tewbow or McCoy to cover the Josh Freemen equivalent. And don't even try to tell me anyone drafted Freeman any higher than the 3rd round in their rookie draft last year.Also, I love how you say Demaryius Thomas "cancels out" DHB. Everyone not named Al Davis knew DHB was a bust. He was drafted well into the 2nd round in my drafts laft year and everyone who took him knew it was a bad pick the instant they seleced him. Thomas is being drafted in the 1.05 to 1.08 ragne with Dez type upside.On the surface, this draft is as deep as any. You will never know for sure until we see who pans out and who doesn't. None of the players you named were considered "sure things". You conveniently picked the guys that panned out and acted like everyone had these guys as their top picks with confidence. What you are forgetting is that last year everyone was saying that if you didn't have a top 6 pick, it was pure garbage after that and there was "no depth" in the draft.But whatever. Trade up or trade out if you don't like the prospects.In what way is this class deep? Our definitions must be different, maybe you're looking at deep sleepers, I am not sure. Take a non ppr league and after you take the top 4 guys from this year (best/spiller/matthews/bryant) out and take the top 4 last year (wells/moreno/brown/crabtree) and go ahead and wash out bey with thomas this year, then wash out bradford and stafford, who left from this year lights a candle to Greene/Maclin/Harvin/Nicks/Britt/Sanchez/Freeman. It might be deep with garbage but it's not deep with quality after pick 4.i agree, so-so top of class, but VERY deep... in that draft i just posted, i (painsworths) got guys i loved in late 2nd and early 3rd and eventually traded a. gonzo for b.lafellInteresting so far:1) Top 5 is pretty consistent2) Second tier 6-10 is consistent in terms of players but varies in terms of order3) Third tier of WRs is all over the map4) I am surprised that Bradford is consistently going in top 10.5) There are some definite gems that are falling into the end of the first and early second despite people claiming this is not a deep draft. I disagree; the top is pretty average but the depth is actually very good.6) I am surprised a bit that Gresham continues to go in the first round. How does he compare to other first round rookie picks in recent years like Winslow or Vernon Davis, or Greg Olsen. Is he a "sure" thing?
You're going to regret not taking Andre Roberts there.10 team dynasty - 1/2/2/1/1/1/1flex - .5 ppr for WR/TE only - 5 pt passing TDs - -2 for TOs3.01 21. The Brute Force Williams, Mike TBB WR ® RBs always get reached for in this league. I am The Brute Force.
I was going to come in here and post our draft but looks like I didn't need to! I think this is a pretty typical top 8-9 for this year. Bradford is going earlier than QB's usually do due to the lack of sure-fire talent at RB and WR this year. FYI - I am the team that drafted Tate at 5. I have seen him going as low as 10 in these drafts which baffles me. Other than Matthews I think he has the highest upside among backs this year for production.http://football16.myfantasyleague.com/2010...=18420&O=17
1.01 1. Portland Spartans Bryant, Dez DAL WR ® Mon Apr 26 1:46:21 p.m. ET 2010
1.02 2. Adirondak Dairy Farmers Mathews, Ryan SDC RB ® Mon Apr 26 8:32:21 p.m. ET 2010
1.03 3. Adirondak Dairy Farmers Spiller, C.J. BUF RB ® Mon Apr 26 8:32:29 p.m. ET 2010
1.04 4. Portland Spartans Best, Jahvid DET RB ® Mon Apr 26 9:17:19 p.m. ET 2010
1.05 5. Philadelphia Burn Tate, Ben HOU RB ® Mon Apr 26 9:28:39 p.m. ET 2010
1.06 6. Portland Spartans Thomas, Demaryius DEN WR ® Mon Apr 26 10:30:06 p.m. ET 2010
1.07 7. Portland Spartans Bradford, Sam STL QB ® Mon Apr 26 10:31:44 p.m. ET 2010
1.08 8. Las Vegas Aces Hardesty, Montario CLE RB ® Tue Apr 27 12:34:23 a.m. ET 2010
1.09 9. Portland Spartans Benn, Arrelious TBB WR ® Tue Apr 27 12:38:21 a.m. ET 2010
Golden Tate over Dez Bryant and Jahvid Best? Can't give much credence to this draft.........12 teams, 2 additional flex spots, one of which can be a 2nd QB. Hi-performance scoring (1pt/ 5yds rush/rec, PPR, pass TD=4 pts)So far.....1. Citizen **** - Sam Bradford, QB STL2. Mean Machine - Ryan Mathews, RB SD3. Devil's Dynamo - CJ Spiller, RB BUF4. Santonio's Home - Golden Tate, WR SEA5. Blue Demons - Dez Bryant, WR DAL6. Renegades - Ben Tate, RB HOU7. Renegades - Jahvid Best, RB DET8. Renegades - DeMaryius Thomas, WR DEN9. Six Million Dollar Man - Arrelius Benn, WR TB10. Matzoh Ballers - Jimmy Clausen, QB CAR11. Big Blue Wrecking Crew - Montario Hardesty, RB CLE12. Big Blue Wrecking Crew - Jonathan Dwyer, RB PIT13. Citizen **** - Brandon LaFell, WR CAR14. Renegades- Colt McCoy, QB CLE15. Matzoh Ballers - Tim Tebow, QB DEN16. Six Million $$ Man - Dexter McCluster, WR KC17. Citizen **** - Damian Williams, WR TEN
The guy's a dope. You don't have anyone in your league besides NFL GMs?Golden Tate over Dez Bryant and Jahvid Best? Can't give much credence to this draft.........12 teams, 2 additional flex spots, one of which can be a 2nd QB. Hi-performance scoring (1pt/ 5yds rush/rec, PPR, pass TD=4 pts)So far.....1. Citizen **** - Sam Bradford, QB STL2. Mean Machine - Ryan Mathews, RB SD3. Devil's Dynamo - CJ Spiller, RB BUF4. Santonio's Home - Golden Tate, WR SEA5. Blue Demons - Dez Bryant, WR DAL6. Renegades - Ben Tate, RB HOU7. Renegades - Jahvid Best, RB DET8. Renegades - DeMaryius Thomas, WR DEN9. Six Million Dollar Man - Arrelius Benn, WR TB10. Matzoh Ballers - Jimmy Clausen, QB CAR11. Big Blue Wrecking Crew - Montario Hardesty, RB CLE12. Big Blue Wrecking Crew - Jonathan Dwyer, RB PIT13. Citizen **** - Brandon LaFell, WR CAR14. Renegades- Colt McCoy, QB CLE15. Matzoh Ballers - Tim Tebow, QB DEN16. Six Million $ Man - Dexter McCluster, WR KC17. Citizen **** - Damian Williams, WR TEN
bump for more recent picks..... some idps starting to come off the boardred dog (includes staffers)
16 team, idp, start 3 wr ... rb/te flex...... (0.5ppr/rb...1ppr/wr....1.5ppr/te)
http://football12.myfantasyleague.com/2010...=41773&O=17
1.01 1. Woodshop Bachman* Bryant, Dez DAL WR ® Sun Apr 25 6:52:39 p.m. PT 2010
1.02 2. Woodshop Bachman* Mathews, Ryan SDC RB ® Mon Apr 26 9:34:15 a.m. PT 2010
1.03 3. Terry Winfree Best, Jahvid DET RB ® Mon Apr 26 10:17:26 a.m. PT 2010
1.04 4. Terry Winfree Spiller, C.J. BUF RB ® Mon Apr 26 10:17:32 a.m. PT 2010
1.05 5. Sean Thompson Benn, Arrelious TBB WR ® Mon Apr 26 11:28:51 a.m. PT 2010 Meh.
1.06 6. Aaron Rudnicki Bradford, Sam STL QB ® Mon Apr 26 11:46:36 a.m. PT 2010
1.07 7. Woodshop Bachman* Thomas, Demaryius DEN WR ® Mon Apr 26 12:37:39 p.m. PT 2010
1.08 8. Ben Bregitzer Tate, Ben HOU RB ® Mon Apr 26 12:43:39 p.m. PT 2010
1.09 9. Ben Bregitzer McClain, Rolando OAK LB ® Mon Apr 26 12:52:34 p.m. PT 2010
1.10 10. Sean Thompson Gresham, Jermaine CIN TE ® Mon Apr 26 5:44:38 p.m. PT 2010 Finally a Bengals TE worth having.
1.11 11. Ben Bregitzer Tate, Golden SEA WR ® Mon Apr 26 6:22:45 p.m. PT 2010
1.12 12. Sean Thompson LaFell, Brandon CAR WR ® Mon Apr 26 6:22:45 p.m. PT 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List
1.13 13. Terry Winfree Hardesty, Montario CLE RB ® Mon Apr 26 6:56:01 p.m. PT 2010
1.14 14. Ben Bregitzer Washington, Daryl ARI LB ® Mon Apr 26 6:56:53 p.m. PT 2010
1.15 15. Jeff Pasquino Decker, Eric DEN WR ® Mon Apr 26 8:26:41 p.m. PT 2010 sorry Derek
1.16 16. Will Grant Weatherspoon, Sean ATL LB ® Mon Apr 26 8:50:08 p.m. PT 2010 Really need a WR here.... but can't seem to swing a trade. So...
2.01 17. Brian Smith Hernandez, Aaron NEP TE ® Mon Apr 26 8:56:17 p.m. PT 2010
2.02 18. Marc Faletti Gerhart, Toby MIN RB ® Tue Apr 27 7:44:30 a.m. PT 2010
2.03 19. Marc Faletti McCluster, Dexter KCC WR ® Tue Apr 27 8:23:41 a.m. PT 2010
2.04 20. Sean Thompson Clausen, Jimmy CAR QB ® Tue Apr 27 9:17:46 a.m. PT 2010 Cised!
2.05 21. Woodshop Bachman* Williams, Mike TBB WR ® Tue Apr 27 9:30:40 a.m. PT 2010
2.06 22. Aaron Rudnicki Gronkowski, Rob NEP TE ® Tue Apr 27 9:38:41 a.m. PT 2010
2.07 23. Terry Winfree Berry, Eric KCC S ® Tue Apr 27 9:48:54 a.m. PT 2010
2.08 24. Anthony Borbely Williams, Damian TEN WR ® Tue Apr 27 12:49:42 p.m. PT 2010
2.09 25. Sean Thompson Morgan, Derrick TEN DE ® Tue Apr 27 1:12:16 p.m. PT 2010 There you go Pina.
2.10 26. Jeff Pasquino Waiting On Jeff Pasquino For The Next Pick
I don't see how Dez can slide to 1.04 in a PPR. I would have been doing everything I could to trade back into the draft and get him there.TheWick said:1QB, 1-3RB, 2-4WR, 1-3TE PPR, 6pts per all TDs1.01 1. • Gateway Predators Mathews, Ryan SDC RB ® Mon Apr 26 2:29:48 p.m. CT 2010 1.02 2. Grissettown Gamecocks Best, Jahvid DET RB ® Mon Apr 26 2:59:20 p.m. CT 2010 With only an oft injured Kevin Smith to beat out I like his chances better than several others this year 1.03 3. Mactaquac Marauders Spiller, C.J. BUF RB ® Mon Apr 26 8:21:02 p.m. CT 2010 1.04 4. Horizon City Hoplites Bryant, Dez DAL WR ® Mon Apr 26 8:31:11 p.m. CT 2010 1.05 5. Steelers Rule Thomas, Demaryius DEN WR ® Mon Apr 26 8:46:03 p.m. CT 2010 1.06 6. Carolina Hustler Tate, Ben HOU RB ® Mon Apr 26 9:00:06 p.m. CT 2010 1.07 7. Horizon City Hoplites Benn, Arrelious TBB WR ® Mon Apr 26 9:17:06 p.m. CT 2010 1.08 8. Steelers Rule Tate, Golden SEA WR ® Mon Apr 26 10:20:40 p.m. CT 2010 1.09 9. Steelers Rule Hardesty, Montario CLE RB ® Mon Apr 26 10:24:49 p.m. CT 2010 1.10 10. Round Hill Rattlers Gerhart, Toby MIN RB ® Tue Apr 27 9:06:57 a.m. CT 2010 1.11 11. The Football Experts Bradford, Sam STL QB ® Tue Apr 27 11:06:02 a.m. CT 2010 1.12 12. Grissettown Gamecocks Clausen, Jimmy CAR QB ® Tue Apr 27 1:05:31 p.m. CT 2010 2.01 13. Mactaquac Marauders Williams, Damian TEN WR ® Tue Apr 27 4:22:50 p.m. CT 2010 2.02 14. Grissettown Gamecocks Waiting On Grissettown Gamecocks For The Next Pick 2.03 15. Grissettown Gamecocks 2.04 16. Grissettown Gamecocks 2.05 17. Grissettown Gamecocks 2.06 18. Grissettown Gamecocks 2.07 19. Angry Spiders 2.08 20. Chongs Bongs 2.09 21. Steelers Rule 2.10 22. Round Hill Rattlers 2.11 23. DISPOSABLE HEROES 2.12 24. Angry Spiders 3.01 25. The Football Experts 3.02 26. Grissettown Gamecocks 3.03 27. Chongs Bongs 3.04 28. Angry Spiders 3.05 29. Angry Spiders 3.06 30. Carolina Hustler 3.07 31. The Football Experts 3.08 32. Steelers Rule 3.09 33. Chongs Bongs 3.10 34. Round Hill Rattlers 3.11 35. DISPOSABLE HEROES 3.12 36. Chongs Bongs Considered Dez zt 1.01 but am in WIN NOW mode...very surprised he slipped to 1.04
bump for more recent picks..... some idps starting to come off the boardred dog (includes staffers)
16 team, idp, start 3 wr ... rb/te flex...... (0.5ppr/rb...1ppr/wr....1.5ppr/te)
http://football12.myfantasyleague.com/2010...=41773&O=17
1.01 1. Woodshop Bachman* Bryant, Dez DAL WR ® Sun Apr 25 6:52:39 p.m. PT 2010
1.02 2. Woodshop Bachman* Mathews, Ryan SDC RB ® Mon Apr 26 9:34:15 a.m. PT 2010
1.03 3. Terry Winfree Best, Jahvid DET RB ® Mon Apr 26 10:17:26 a.m. PT 2010
1.04 4. Terry Winfree Spiller, C.J. BUF RB ® Mon Apr 26 10:17:32 a.m. PT 2010
1.05 5. Sean Thompson Benn, Arrelious TBB WR ® Mon Apr 26 11:28:51 a.m. PT 2010 Meh.
1.06 6. Aaron Rudnicki Bradford, Sam STL QB ® Mon Apr 26 11:46:36 a.m. PT 2010
1.07 7. Woodshop Bachman* Thomas, Demaryius DEN WR ® Mon Apr 26 12:37:39 p.m. PT 2010
1.08 8. Ben Bregitzer Tate, Ben HOU RB ® Mon Apr 26 12:43:39 p.m. PT 2010
1.09 9. Ben Bregitzer McClain, Rolando OAK LB ® Mon Apr 26 12:52:34 p.m. PT 2010
1.10 10. Sean Thompson Gresham, Jermaine CIN TE ® Mon Apr 26 5:44:38 p.m. PT 2010 Finally a Bengals TE worth having.
1.11 11. Ben Bregitzer Tate, Golden SEA WR ® Mon Apr 26 6:22:45 p.m. PT 2010
1.12 12. Sean Thompson LaFell, Brandon CAR WR ® Mon Apr 26 6:22:45 p.m. PT 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List
1.13 13. Terry Winfree Hardesty, Montario CLE RB ® Mon Apr 26 6:56:01 p.m. PT 2010
1.14 14. Ben Bregitzer Washington, Daryl ARI LB ® Mon Apr 26 6:56:53 p.m. PT 2010
1.15 15. Jeff Pasquino Decker, Eric DEN WR ® Mon Apr 26 8:26:41 p.m. PT 2010 sorry Derek
1.16 16. Will Grant Weatherspoon, Sean ATL LB ® Mon Apr 26 8:50:08 p.m. PT 2010 Really need a WR here.... but can't seem to swing a trade. So...
2.01 17. Brian Smith Hernandez, Aaron NEP TE ® Mon Apr 26 8:56:17 p.m. PT 2010
2.02 18. Marc Faletti Gerhart, Toby MIN RB ® Tue Apr 27 7:44:30 a.m. PT 2010
2.03 19. Marc Faletti McCluster, Dexter KCC WR ® Tue Apr 27 8:23:41 a.m. PT 2010
2.04 20. Sean Thompson Clausen, Jimmy CAR QB ® Tue Apr 27 9:17:46 a.m. PT 2010 Cised!
2.05 21. Woodshop Bachman* Williams, Mike TBB WR ® Tue Apr 27 9:30:40 a.m. PT 2010
2.06 22. Aaron Rudnicki Gronkowski, Rob NEP TE ® Tue Apr 27 9:38:41 a.m. PT 2010
2.07 23. Terry Winfree Berry, Eric KCC S ® Tue Apr 27 9:48:54 a.m. PT 2010
2.08 24. Anthony Borbely Williams, Damian TEN WR ® Tue Apr 27 12:49:42 p.m. PT 2010
2.09 25. Sean Thompson Morgan, Derrick TEN DE ® Tue Apr 27 1:12:16 p.m. PT 2010 There you go Pina.
2.10 26. Jeff Pasquino Waiting On Jeff Pasquino For The Next Pick
Yeah, it was between the two of them... I took Williams to "lock in" Tampa Bay's future WR1 since I took Benn earlier.Anyway, this happened:3.06 26. The Brute Force Roberts, Andre ARI WR ® So it all worked out. :Xcstu said:You're going to regret not taking Andre Roberts there.10 team dynasty - 1/2/2/1/1/1/1flex - .5 ppr for WR/TE only - 5 pt passing TDs - -2 for TOs3.01 21. The Brute Force Williams, Mike TBB WR ® RBs always get reached for in this league. I am The Brute Force.
Yeah, it was between the two of them... I took Williams to "lock in" Tampa Bay's future WR1 since I took Benn earlier.Anyway, this happened:3.06 26. The Brute Force Roberts, Andre ARI WR ® So it all worked out.cstu said:You're going to regret not taking Andre Roberts there.10 team dynasty - 1/2/2/1/1/1/1flex - .5 ppr for WR/TE only - 5 pt passing TDs - -2 for TOs3.01 21. The Brute Force Williams, Mike TBB WR ® RBs always get reached for in this league. I am The Brute Force.
I hate the teams that drafted most of these players. McCluster to KC?
Aww, man, with the lack of a receiving TE, and the erratic Bowe, I love that kid's chances. I hated when KC drafted him.I hate the teams that drafted most of these players. McCluster to KC?
keep an eye on the rookie TE from Iowa. He is pretty athletic and has nothing standing between he and the starting gigAww, man, with the lack of a receiving TE, and the erratic Bowe, I love that kid's chances. I hated when KC drafted him.I hate the teams that drafted most of these players. McCluster to KC?
I don't like this draft at all regular or IDP. Outside of the top of the first I think most players went to terrible locations.In what way is this class deep? Our definitions must be different, maybe you're looking at deep sleepers, I am not sure. Take a non ppr league and after you take the top 4 guys from this year (best/spiller/matthews/bryant) out and take the top 4 last year (wells/moreno/brown/crabtree) and go ahead and wash out bey with thomas this year, then wash out bradford and stafford, who left from this year lights a candle to Greene/Maclin/Harvin/Nicks/Britt/Sanchez/Freeman. It might be deep with garbage but it's not deep with quality after pick 4.i agree, so-so top of class, but VERY deep... in that draft i just posted, i (painsworths) got guys i loved in late 2nd and early 3rd and eventually traded a. gonzo for b.lafellInteresting so far:1) Top 5 is pretty consistent2) Second tier 6-10 is consistent in terms of players but varies in terms of order3) Third tier of WRs is all over the map4) I am surprised that Bradford is consistently going in top 10.5) There are some definite gems that are falling into the end of the first and early second despite people claiming this is not a deep draft. I disagree; the top is pretty average but the depth is actually very good.6) I am surprised a bit that Gresham continues to go in the first round. How does he compare to other first round rookie picks in recent years like Winslow or Vernon Davis, or Greg Olsen. Is he a "sure" thing?
I was in that league and tried to do exactly that but couldn't find a taker. The 1.04 never bothered to listen, I think he was too excited Dez was there to even consider trades. I can't blame him, talk about a gift.I don't see how Dez can slide to 1.04 in a PPR. I would have been doing everything I could to trade back into the draft and get him there.1QB, 1-3RB, 2-4WR, 1-3TE PPR, 6pts per all TDs1.01 1. • Gateway Predators Mathews, Ryan SDC RB ® Mon Apr 26 2:29:48 p.m. CT 2010 1.02 2. Grissettown Gamecocks Best, Jahvid DET RB ® Mon Apr 26 2:59:20 p.m. CT 2010 With only an oft injured Kevin Smith to beat out I like his chances better than several others this year 1.03 3. Mactaquac Marauders Spiller, C.J. BUF RB ® Mon Apr 26 8:21:02 p.m. CT 2010 1.04 4. Horizon City Hoplites Bryant, Dez DAL WR ® Mon Apr 26 8:31:11 p.m. CT 2010 1.05 5. Steelers Rule Thomas, Demaryius DEN WR ® Mon Apr 26 8:46:03 p.m. CT 2010 1.06 6. Carolina Hustler Tate, Ben HOU RB ® Mon Apr 26 9:00:06 p.m. CT 2010 1.07 7. Horizon City Hoplites Benn, Arrelious TBB WR ® Mon Apr 26 9:17:06 p.m. CT 2010 1.08 8. Steelers Rule Tate, Golden SEA WR ® Mon Apr 26 10:20:40 p.m. CT 2010 1.09 9. Steelers Rule Hardesty, Montario CLE RB ® Mon Apr 26 10:24:49 p.m. CT 2010 1.10 10. Round Hill Rattlers Gerhart, Toby MIN RB ® Tue Apr 27 9:06:57 a.m. CT 2010 1.11 11. The Football Experts Bradford, Sam STL QB ® Tue Apr 27 11:06:02 a.m. CT 2010 1.12 12. Grissettown Gamecocks Clausen, Jimmy CAR QB ® Tue Apr 27 1:05:31 p.m. CT 2010 2.01 13. Mactaquac Marauders Williams, Damian TEN WR ® Tue Apr 27 4:22:50 p.m. CT 2010 2.02 14. Grissettown Gamecocks Waiting On Grissettown Gamecocks For The Next Pick 2.03 15. Grissettown Gamecocks 2.04 16. Grissettown Gamecocks 2.05 17. Grissettown Gamecocks 2.06 18. Grissettown Gamecocks 2.07 19. Angry Spiders 2.08 20. Chongs Bongs 2.09 21. Steelers Rule 2.10 22. Round Hill Rattlers 2.11 23. DISPOSABLE HEROES 2.12 24. Angry Spiders 3.01 25. The Football Experts 3.02 26. Grissettown Gamecocks 3.03 27. Chongs Bongs 3.04 28. Angry Spiders 3.05 29. Angry Spiders 3.06 30. Carolina Hustler 3.07 31. The Football Experts 3.08 32. Steelers Rule 3.09 33. Chongs Bongs 3.10 34. Round Hill Rattlers 3.11 35. DISPOSABLE HEROES 3.12 36. Chongs Bongs Considered Dez zt 1.01 but am in WIN NOW mode...very surprised he slipped to 1.04