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I'm a lady, and I'm wondering why you think a .5 PPR is a good compromise for me.Full point PPR is the way to go, but .5 PPR is a good compromise for the ladies.
I'm a lady, and I'm wondering why you think a .5 PPR is a good compromise for me.Full point PPR is the way to go, but .5 PPR is a good compromise for the ladies.
What is your preferred format?I'm a lady, and I'm wondering why you think a .5 PPR is a good compromise for me.Full point PPR is the way to go, but .5 PPR is a good compromise for the ladies.
If I were to start a new league with people who understood the game (I am starting a work league but will keep that one normal/simple), I would give points for yardage, 1 point for first downs, 6 for td, no ppr.Some analysis on the subject from Rotoworld (I pasted just the conclusion - full details in the link):
To sum up
If the primary goal of a PPR scoring system is to make more fantasy-relevant players, I dont believe its succeeding. Sure, its inflating scoring so that more players score 10 or more points each week, but is that really making more players relevant if nearly everyone is getting a bump for reception scoring?
PPR does shift some value from RB to WR and TE, but it also deflates the most important position in football: the quarterback. As it stands, the position is so deep that owners can ignore it for the first half of the draft and still end up with a quality passer in the 8th or 9th round. There are strategies that revolve around streaming QBs from the waiver wire. While this is a valid strategy for one-QB PPR (and standard) format, given how important the position is in the NFL, shouldnt fantasy football better reflect this importance?
PPR does a poor job of rewarding real-world value. Why should a player get a full point (equal to 10 rushing/receiving yards) for a catch that nets his team zero yards? If the goal is to reward players for moving the chains, then award a point or a half-point for each first down.
After going through this process, if I were starting a league, I would not use a PPR format. I think there are better ways to improve the balance between the positions and to reward on-field production. Ill be back with a Part 2 of this scoring system study to discuss a few different options that commissioners and owners have to better balance positional value.
I like the scoring for 1st downs. Our dynasty league brings up PPR every year but it always gets rejected. PP1D is gaining support though.If I were to start a new league with people who understood the game (I am starting a work league but will keep that one normal/simple), I would give points for yardage, 1 point for first downs, 6 for td, no ppr.
I agree that its a perfectly viable solution, id love to hear more on why it is better than just giving points per reception. A lot of the leagues I run where we have PPR in addition to having to start more than 2 WRs and in one of them only having to start 1 RB the guys seem to prefer in the leagues where there is more flexibility (1RB, 2WR, 1TE, 4 Flex, for example).Yeah, people who dont see the inequity non caused by ppr are just being willfully ignorant (or maybe they dont care enough to actually look at the disparity). .
PPR is now the old way of doing things. It was the old fix to position inequity. Now we have better options.I'm in several leagues that changed to PPR from non-PPR.....like always with change there is resistance, but once it happened I never heard one peek out of any owners not liking PPR. It seems those that still player non-PPR are stuck in the old way of doing things and resist change. I imagine that the majority of those playing in non-PPR haven't even played in a PPR league.
25 PPR and 15 non-PPR
I play in 6-pt passing TD leagues.I play in both ppr and non-ppr--and I generally find the ppr leagues that I play in to be more fun. I also find them to be more competitve as the ppr aspect makes for a greater pool of "elite" fantasy players. In non-ppr leagues--the teams with better drafting positions have a distinct advantage. However, with that being said---if somebody really is a traditionalist and doesn't want to change scoring systems to balance out the equity in drafting position in non-ppr leagues---doing a third round reversal in snake drafts could be a good solution.
I know this is off topic--but I also believe that every league should count passing tds as 6 points. The devaluing of qb's in fantasy football is mind boggling to me
superflex is the best of both worlds. Or 32 team leagues, which seem to enhance QBs more than other positions. Even 24 team leagues can do that. It's the normal 10-12 team leagues that devalue QBs too much IMO.I play in 6-pt passing TD leagues.I play in both ppr and non-ppr--and I generally find the ppr leagues that I play in to be more fun. I also find them to be more competitve as the ppr aspect makes for a greater pool of "elite" fantasy players. In non-ppr leagues--the teams with better drafting positions have a distinct advantage. However, with that being said---if somebody really is a traditionalist and doesn't want to change scoring systems to balance out the equity in drafting position in non-ppr leagues---doing a third round reversal in snake drafts could be a good solution.
I know this is off topic--but I also believe that every league should count passing tds as 6 points. The devaluing of qb's in fantasy football is mind boggling to me
But it doesn't change relative QB values as much as one might think. Though people think it does, and QBs tend to go sooner in drafts.
I haven't played in them, but people who do believe starting 2 QBs is a better solution to the QB value issue.
I totally agree with you that it doesn't change the values that much--but it's certainly a step in the right direction. My main point is that there is no reason to devalue the most important position on a football field--and if you are going to play in a one qb league--4 point passing td's majorly devalue the qb position to an extreme level.I play in 6-pt passing TD leagues.I play in both ppr and non-ppr--and I generally find the ppr leagues that I play in to be more fun. I also find them to be more competitve as the ppr aspect makes for a greater pool of "elite" fantasy players. In non-ppr leagues--the teams with better drafting positions have a distinct advantage. However, with that being said---if somebody really is a traditionalist and doesn't want to change scoring systems to balance out the equity in drafting position in non-ppr leagues---doing a third round reversal in snake drafts could be a good solution.
I know this is off topic--but I also believe that every league should count passing tds as 6 points. The devaluing of qb's in fantasy football is mind boggling to me
But it doesn't change relative QB values as much as one might think. Though people think it does, and QBs tend to go sooner in drafts.
I haven't played in them, but people who do believe starting 2 QBs is a better solution to the QB value issue.
Agree here. Additionally (and once again), 4pt PaTDs also create inequity based on how a player scores, eg Newton/Wilson. Why are TDs worth more to them when they sneak into the end zone, vs when Peyton passes to a TE?I totally agree with you that it doesn't change the values that much--but it's certainly a step in the right direction. My main point is that there is no reason to devalue the most important position on a football field--and if you are going to play in a one qb league--4 point passing td's majorly devalue the qb position to an extreme level.I play in 6-pt passing TD leagues.I play in both ppr and non-ppr--and I generally find the ppr leagues that I play in to be more fun. I also find them to be more competitve as the ppr aspect makes for a greater pool of "elite" fantasy players. In non-ppr leagues--the teams with better drafting positions have a distinct advantage. However, with that being said---if somebody really is a traditionalist and doesn't want to change scoring systems to balance out the equity in drafting position in non-ppr leagues---doing a third round reversal in snake drafts could be a good solution.
I know this is off topic--but I also believe that every league should count passing tds as 6 points. The devaluing of qb's in fantasy football is mind boggling to me
But it doesn't change relative QB values as much as one might think. Though people think it does, and QBs tend to go sooner in drafts.
I haven't played in them, but people who do believe starting 2 QBs is a better solution to the QB value issue.
I play in a PPR league. I also play in multiple standard scoring leagues. The link I posted starts with the writer clarifying that he plays mostly PPR, but studied the scoring and published his analysis.I'm in several leagues that changed to PPR from non-PPR.....like always with change there is resistance, but once it happened I never heard one peek out of any owners not liking PPR. It seems those that still player non-PPR are stuck in the old way of doing things and resist change. I imagine that the majority of those playing in non-PPR haven't even played in a PPR league.
25 PPR and 15 non-PPR
Yeah, really need a 0.5 option in the poll. MFL also offers first downs by individual player. Pretty tough to predict but there are stats out there.PPR, either 1 or 0.5.
Is this a thing, are there scum out there who play with non-decimal scoring?How about a thread on scoring types, whole number points or decimal points?
Yes and I find it incredibly boring. I don't know why anyone would prefer it.Is this a thing, are there scum out there who play with non-decimal scoring?How about a thread on scoring types, whole number points or decimal points?