50M guaranteed holy crap. Figured it would be 75 over 3.3 years, $100M, $50M guaranteed per rapsheet.
Licht wins again. Well played, sir. It’s a “do it again” kind of deal.50M guaranteed holy crap. Figured it would be 75 over 3.3 years, $100M, $50M guaranteed per rapsheet.
Huh? If he plays out the contract, it isn’t $16m per year. I don’t get your point.So roughly 16 million a year. If we look at guaranteed money being the real deal.
$50M guaranteed. First year is $30M. Second is $20M guaranteed; $30M total. Think he’d have to be pretty bad next year not to play for the Bucs in 2025. So, $60M at minimum. If he has two good seasons they’re probably restructuring on a longer term deal for 2026.So roughly 16 million a year. If we look at guaranteed money being the real deal.
50 million is guaranteed and it's a 3-year deal. I know on paper it's 100 million but only 50 is guaranteed. I just read the blurb that came out. The actual numbers will come out with more details but I'm sure there is a way for the team to walk away after this season and for sure after two. I'm looking at the guaranteed money/contract over 3 years. I see this as a team-friendly deal. Also good for Baker who wanted to settle in Tampa. So much can happen in a year or two. He is walking away for sure with 50 million.Huh? If he plays out the contract, it isn’t $16m per year. I don’t get your point.So roughly 16 million a year. If we look at guaranteed money being the real deal.
50 million is guaranteed and it's a 3-year deal. I know on paper it's 100 million but only 50 is guaranteed. I just read the blurb that came out. The actual numbers will come out with more details but I'm sure there is a way for the team to walk away after this season and in two. I'm looking at the guaranteed money/contract over 3 years. I see this as a team-friendly deal. Also good for Baker who wanted to settle in Tampa.Huh? If he plays out the contract, it isn’t $16m per year. I don’t get your point.So roughly 16 million a year. If we look at guaranteed money being the real deal.
It can get to much more than 50 million. You know what forget it. You are right. I'll go with that.50 million is guaranteed and it's a 3-year deal. I know on paper it's 100 million but only 50 is guaranteed. I just read the blurb that came out. The actual numbers will come out with more details but I'm sure there is a way for the team to walk away after this season and in two. I'm looking at the guaranteed money/contract over 3 years. I see this as a team-friendly deal. Also good for Baker who wanted to settle in Tampa.Huh? If he plays out the contract, it isn’t $16m per year. I don’t get your point.So roughly 16 million a year. If we look at guaranteed money being the real deal.Sources: Bucs, Mayfield agree to 3 years, $100M
The Buccaneers and QB Baker Mayfield are closing in on a three-year deal for $100 million in total and $50 million guaranteed, sources told ESPN.www.espn.com
Details attached. It’s a solid deal for everyone, but there is literally zero scenario where this ends up being $16m per year.
Not much different than last year then. In that division it still may get you a playoff unless the Falcons find a QB.8-9 '24
-That's my prediction
Yes, but there’s more $$ in the deal than just the number guaranteed.It can get to much more than 50 million. You know what forget it. You are right. I'll go with that.50 million is guaranteed and it's a 3-year deal. I know on paper it's 100 million but only 50 is guaranteed. I just read the blurb that came out. The actual numbers will come out with more details but I'm sure there is a way for the team to walk away after this season and in two. I'm looking at the guaranteed money/contract over 3 years. I see this as a team-friendly deal. Also good for Baker who wanted to settle in Tampa.Huh? If he plays out the contract, it isn’t $16m per year. I don’t get your point.So roughly 16 million a year. If we look at guaranteed money being the real deal.Sources: Bucs, Mayfield agree to 3 years, $100M
The Buccaneers and QB Baker Mayfield are closing in on a three-year deal for $100 million in total and $50 million guaranteed, sources told ESPN.www.espn.com
Details attached. It’s a solid deal for everyone, but there is literally zero scenario where this ends up being $16m per year.
The realistic view is 25 million a year over 2 years with a 3rd-year option or at least that is my opinion but the 50 million is the key term it is what he is going to get no matter what.
Teams release players all the time. Players do not play out their contracts all the time. As pointed out he would have to be pretty bad next year for them to give up on him so I guess the real way to look at it is 25 million over 2 years. It's 115 million with incentives but the real number I look at is how much the player is guaranteed. If you stretch out 50 million over 3 that is like 16.6 but it's 25 million for at least two years considering he is most likely making it through 2025. The rest of the deal is on paper and can go a lot of different ways.
Regardless of the detailed numbers, I agree with your broader point that it seems like a good structure and deal for both Baker and the Bucs.It can get to much more than 50 million. You know what forget it. You are right. I'll go with that.50 million is guaranteed and it's a 3-year deal. I know on paper it's 100 million but only 50 is guaranteed. I just read the blurb that came out. The actual numbers will come out with more details but I'm sure there is a way for the team to walk away after this season and in two. I'm looking at the guaranteed money/contract over 3 years. I see this as a team-friendly deal. Also good for Baker who wanted to settle in Tampa.Huh? If he plays out the contract, it isn’t $16m per year. I don’t get your point.So roughly 16 million a year. If we look at guaranteed money being the real deal.Sources: Bucs, Mayfield agree to 3 years, $100M
The Buccaneers and QB Baker Mayfield are closing in on a three-year deal for $100 million in total and $50 million guaranteed, sources told ESPN.www.espn.com
Details attached. It’s a solid deal for everyone, but there is literally zero scenario where this ends up being $16m per year.
The realistic view is 25 million a year over 2 years with a 3rd-year option or at least that is my opinion but the 50 million is the key term it is what he is going to get no matter what.
Teams release players all the time. Players do not play out their contracts all the time. As pointed out he would have to be pretty bad next year for them to give up on him so I guess the real way to look at it is 25 million over 2 years. It's 115 million with incentives but the real number I look at is how much the player is guaranteed. If you stretch out 50 million over 3 that is like 16.6 but it's 25 million for at least two years considering he is most likely making it through 2025. The rest of the deal is on paper and can go a lot of different ways.
Incentive bonuses but those are not guaranteed. He is more than likely getting more as to the likelihood of meeting those but guaranteed is guaranteed. it's a good deal but not nearly what people thought or predicted he would get. I see it as more 25 million a year over 2 years with an opportunity to see what happens in year 3.Yes, but there’s more $$ in the deal than just the number guaranteed.It can get to much more than 50 million. You know what forget it. You are right. I'll go with that.50 million is guaranteed and it's a 3-year deal. I know on paper it's 100 million but only 50 is guaranteed. I just read the blurb that came out. The actual numbers will come out with more details but I'm sure there is a way for the team to walk away after this season and in two. I'm looking at the guaranteed money/contract over 3 years. I see this as a team-friendly deal. Also good for Baker who wanted to settle in Tampa.Huh? If he plays out the contract, it isn’t $16m per year. I don’t get your point.So roughly 16 million a year. If we look at guaranteed money being the real deal.Sources: Bucs, Mayfield agree to 3 years, $100M
The Buccaneers and QB Baker Mayfield are closing in on a three-year deal for $100 million in total and $50 million guaranteed, sources told ESPN.www.espn.com
Details attached. It’s a solid deal for everyone, but there is literally zero scenario where this ends up being $16m per year.
The realistic view is 25 million a year over 2 years with a 3rd-year option or at least that is my opinion but the 50 million is the key term it is what he is going to get no matter what.
Teams release players all the time. Players do not play out their contracts all the time. As pointed out he would have to be pretty bad next year for them to give up on him so I guess the real way to look at it is 25 million over 2 years. It's 115 million with incentives but the real number I look at is how much the player is guaranteed. If you stretch out 50 million over 3 that is like 16.6 but it's 25 million for at least two years considering he is most likely making it through 2025. The rest of the deal is on paper and can go a lot of different ways.
This is true. It is a good and fair deal for both. I'm happy for Baker. I just wish they could have kept Dave Canales.Regardless of the detailed numbers, I agree with your broader point that it seems like a good structure and deal for both Baker and the Bucs.It can get to much more than 50 million. You know what forget it. You are right. I'll go with that.50 million is guaranteed and it's a 3-year deal. I know on paper it's 100 million but only 50 is guaranteed. I just read the blurb that came out. The actual numbers will come out with more details but I'm sure there is a way for the team to walk away after this season and in two. I'm looking at the guaranteed money/contract over 3 years. I see this as a team-friendly deal. Also good for Baker who wanted to settle in Tampa.Huh? If he plays out the contract, it isn’t $16m per year. I don’t get your point.So roughly 16 million a year. If we look at guaranteed money being the real deal.Sources: Bucs, Mayfield agree to 3 years, $100M
The Buccaneers and QB Baker Mayfield are closing in on a three-year deal for $100 million in total and $50 million guaranteed, sources told ESPN.www.espn.com
Details attached. It’s a solid deal for everyone, but there is literally zero scenario where this ends up being $16m per year.
The realistic view is 25 million a year over 2 years with a 3rd-year option or at least that is my opinion but the 50 million is the key term it is what he is going to get no matter what.
Teams release players all the time. Players do not play out their contracts all the time. As pointed out he would have to be pretty bad next year for them to give up on him so I guess the real way to look at it is 25 million over 2 years. It's 115 million with incentives but the real number I look at is how much the player is guaranteed. If you stretch out 50 million over 3 that is like 16.6 but it's 25 million for at least two years considering he is most likely making it through 2025. The rest of the deal is on paper and can go a lot of different ways.
Amen.20% of the guaranteed money Watson got.
Well your predictions have definitely been spot on with this situation so far.8-9 '24
-That's my prediction
I dunno what you looking at but:Incentive bonuses but those are not guaranteed. He is more than likely getting more as to the likelihood of meeting those but guaranteed is guaranteed. it's a good deal but not nearly what people thought or predicted he would get. I see it as more 25 million a year over 2 years with an opportunity to see what happens in year 3.
2024: $30M guaranteed
2025: $30M ($20M guaranteed)
2026: $40M
He’s eligible to earn $5M each year in incentives ($2.5M in statistical incentives and $2.5M in playoff incentives).
It is exactly what I'm looking at 100%. He is guaranteed 50 million. Nothing else is. He is more likely going to meet incentives but not for sure 100%. There are a lot of ways to look at contracts. Teams, players, and agents look at them differently as well.I dunno what you looking at but:Incentive bonuses but those are not guaranteed. He is more than likely getting more as to the likelihood of meeting those but guaranteed is guaranteed. it's a good deal but not nearly what people thought or predicted he would get. I see it as more 25 million a year over 2 years with an opportunity to see what happens in year 3.
2024: $30M guaranteed
2025: $30M ($20M guaranteed)
2026: $40M
He’s eligible to earn $5M each year in incentives ($2.5M in statistical incentives and $2.5M in playoff incentives).
He is most likely getting 60 mill over two years, and then we'll see. If everything goes badly, they can cut him for a 20 mill hit next year.
This also can be true. Reports get leaked from all over. Agents/teams.I'm waiting for a day or two before I allow myself to figure out his contract. They're reporting these deals all wrong these days. You have no idea what the word "guarantee" means in these contracts anymore. It could be a roster bonus "guarantee" that's sold to the reader as an iron-clad guarantee. They're starting to report these things so erroneously that you really have to wait. You had to wait for a day or two to get the real Mike Evans contract, and I won't be surprised if it's the same with Mayfield.
He is guaranteed $40m.It is exactly what I'm looking at 100%. He is guaranteed 50 million
Yeah, and the salary cap looks at it a certain way as wellIt is exactly what I'm looking at 100%. He is guaranteed 50 million. Nothing else is. He is more likely going to meet incentives but not for sure 100%. There are a lot of ways to look at contracts. Teams, players, and agents look at them differently as well.I dunno what you looking at but:Incentive bonuses but those are not guaranteed. He is more than likely getting more as to the likelihood of meeting those but guaranteed is guaranteed. it's a good deal but not nearly what people thought or predicted he would get. I see it as more 25 million a year over 2 years with an opportunity to see what happens in year 3.
2024: $30M guaranteed
2025: $30M ($20M guaranteed)
2026: $40M
He’s eligible to earn $5M each year in incentives ($2.5M in statistical incentives and $2.5M in playoff incentives).
He is most likely getting 60 mill over two years, and then we'll see. If everything goes badly, they can cut him for a 20 mill hit next year.
It was 1 yr $4M in '23It’s one year for $40m or 2 years for $60m or 3 years for $100m.
Yeah, he got a raise, earned it.It was 1 yr $4M in '23It’s one year for $40m or 2 years for $60m or 3 years for $100m.
Jason Licht looking kind of wise poaching all these QB castoffs lately.It was 1 yr $4M in '23It’s one year for $40m or 2 years for $60m or 3 years for $100m.
Yeah, he got a raise, earned it.It was 1 yr $4M in '23It’s one year for $40m or 2 years for $60m or 3 years for $100m.
Jason Licht looking kind of wise poaching all these QB castoffs lately.It was 1 yr $4M in '23It’s one year for $40m or 2 years for $60m or 3 years for $100m.
$30M in 2024Yeah, he got a raise, earned it.It was 1 yr $4M in '23It’s one year for $40m or 2 years for $60m or 3 years for $100m.
Jason Licht looking kind of wise poaching all these QB castoffs lately.It was 1 yr $4M in '23It’s one year for $40m or 2 years for $60m or 3 years for $100m.
-Big difference between a cast off at $4M and the $40M the Bucs are paying this season
He earned an increase of 1,000%? That's what you're saying here.
It's only$30M a year if they keep him for two years.Yeah, he got a raise, earned it.It was 1 yr $4M in '23It’s one year for $40m or 2 years for $60m or 3 years for $100m.
Jason Licht looking kind of wise poaching all these QB castoffs lately.It was 1 yr $4M in '23It’s one year for $40m or 2 years for $60m or 3 years for $100m.
-Big difference between a cast off at $4M and the $40M the Bucs are paying this season
He earned an increase of 1,000%? That's what you're saying here.
This is how I see it. At no point can this be a 3 year deal with an AAV of $16m or whatever. If he 'only' gets $50m, then the contract did not last 3 years.It’s one year for $40m or 2 years for $60m or 3 years for $100m.
Your understanding of percentages is better than the area of circles.Yeah, he got a raise, earned it.It was 1 yr $4M in '23It’s one year for $40m or 2 years for $60m or 3 years for $100m.
Jason Licht looking kind of wise poaching all these QB castoffs lately.It was 1 yr $4M in '23It’s one year for $40m or 2 years for $60m or 3 years for $100m.
-Big difference between a cast off at $4M and the $40M the Bucs are paying this season
He earned an increase of 1,000%? That's what you're saying here.
I agree and think it's fair. People forget that he had some bad years as well. Canales is gone now. It's a balanced deal. I think Baker wanting to keep his family in Tampa played a role. He and his wife are expecting their firstborn soon.$30M in 2024Yeah, he got a raise, earned it.It was 1 yr $4M in '23It’s one year for $40m or 2 years for $60m or 3 years for $100m.
Jason Licht looking kind of wise poaching all these QB castoffs lately.It was 1 yr $4M in '23It’s one year for $40m or 2 years for $60m or 3 years for $100m.
-Big difference between a cast off at $4M and the $40M the Bucs are paying this season
He earned an increase of 1,000%? That's what you're saying here.
$30M in 2025 with $20M guaranteed
$40M in 2026 with $0 guaranteed
I don’t see how anyone could think this is a bad deal for either side considering the way he played in 2023. He’s not a castoff anymore. Dude balled last year.
Not saying this is what happened, but my initial FEELING was they locked themselves into mediocrity for a while.Mike Evans resigned basically under the condition that they resign Baker, and you're wondering whether or not he's worth 30M/year?
I'm just asking questions and have a slightly different POV on Baker but make no mistake...$30M in 2024Yeah, he got a raise, earned it.It was 1 yr $4M in '23It’s one year for $40m or 2 years for $60m or 3 years for $100m.
Jason Licht looking kind of wise poaching all these QB castoffs lately.It was 1 yr $4M in '23It’s one year for $40m or 2 years for $60m or 3 years for $100m.
-Big difference between a cast off at $4M and the $40M the Bucs are paying this season
He earned an increase of 1,000%? That's what you're saying here.
$30M in 2025 with $20M guaranteed
$40M in 2026 with $0 guaranteed
I don’t see how anyone could think this is a bad deal for either side considering the way he played in 2023. He’s not a castoff anymore. Dude balled last year.
As an outsider, I'm still confused as to why they decided to move on from Mayfield. Yes, his 2022 was up and down, but didn't he play with a shoulder injury pretty much all season? Was it more because Watson was available and perceived as an upgrade?Not saying this is what happened, but my initial FEELING was they locked themselves into mediocrity for a while.Mike Evans resigned basically under the condition that they resign Baker, and you're wondering whether or not he's worth 30M/year?
That said, as a Browns fan, I'd still rather have Baker on that deal plus the few first rounders we gave up instead of Watson and his deal. Hindsight 20-20 and all