Team Smokin'
Footballguy
I stewed on it, but couldn't put him into my Flex. Still deciding between Breida, Lynch, or T.Y. now. Still nice to see him perform. His value just went to solid RB 2 no doubt.TartanLion said:
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RB Carlos Hyde, JAC (2 Viewers)
- Thread starter ebsteelers
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Ted Lange as your Bartender
Footballguy
Left him on the bench unfortunately last night but I’m not even mad. His trajectory is so much better now ROS with Baker playing.
Same here. I started L Miller over Hyde, but I'm happy with the outcome. Hopefully, I won't need those points for the win this weekend, and I can feel good about having a stable running back corp going forward.
rockaction
Footballguy
JoeSteeler
Footballguy
was trying to bench him in my 16 team league but with Bell and Olsen out I didn't have anyone else to turn to. Sometimes the best moves are the ones you don't make.
LionOfGosforth
Footballguy
Me three. I can't even be mad, I figured Hyde's upside was 50-60 with maybe a TD. I know there's no chance Miller (or DJ) outscores him but makes me even more positive for ROS, he's killing it for a 7th rounder. Things might be even better with Mayfield in there too, just need him to stay healthy.
Bojang0301
Omar4Heisman
Would have done it in a heartbeat. No way that guy makes the playoffs. All because he was too stupid and too stubborn to move a sunk cost. The only way anyone should be holding Bell is if they have Conner. Guy is out on jet skis and clubbin, he won’t be back until week 10 and two more weeks of him not being there will make people finally realize that point.
/endhijack
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TheFanatic
Footballguy
Have a Denver fan in my keepers league, I'm thinking of offering him Lindsay for Hyde, he didn't start Hyde last night either. No brainier, right? Hyde has been on my team since his rookie year but didn't keep him this year because of Chubb, Johnson, injuries and not quite playing up to expectations. Got Penny instead.?
Team Smokin'
Footballguy
Bump Hyde to top tier RB 2 now. Sell high or ride him?
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
I doubt you could get much for him. You also probably didn't invest that much in him, so why not enjoy the ride?
Team Smokin'
Footballguy
He sits there right on the verge of being played in a Flex with Fournette, Collins, Lynch, Gio, and soon to be Ingram with this team. Could use some help at TE, but no one likes to give up a top tier TE 1, do they?
Fever in the Funkhouse
Footballguy
Chubb botched a blocking assignment on special teams that led to the Jets blocking a punt. Probably doesn’t help get him on the field blocking for a rookie qb any time soon.
Tau837
Footballguy
If he is last in the league by 80 points after 2 weeks and has lost/would be giving up his first round pick, then Hyde isn't going to make any difference.
If you are so confident that Hyde is the answer for him, you should just keep him and enjoy his performance.
On the other hand, if you really want Bell because you want him down the stretch and in the fantasy playoffs, and you don't really need Hyde to get there, then offer the guy something more compelling. Like Hyde plus another player that would start for the other team and help him make up the big gap between his team and the rest of the league.
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rockaction
Footballguy
Yeah the bolded is sort of why I was disappointed he didn't at least counter with something and why I even noted the rejection as sort of odd. He's way behind in the league and with this week, he'll essentially be out the playoff hunt. He owns Chubb, so there's no threat of him losing out in Cleveland unless Chubb works his way into a timeshare rendering both moot. But as Bobby Layne pointed out, Hyde's averaging nearly 22 touches per game, so his usage isn't really in question right now. It's injury, and Hyde's history, while a tad spotty, is no worse than a bunch of others out here.If he is last in the league by 80 points after 2 weeks and has lost/would be giving up his first round pick, then Hyde isn't going to make any difference.
If you are so confident that Hyde is the answer for him, you should just keep him and enjoy his performance.
On the other hand, if you really want Bell because you want him down the stretch and in the fantasy playoffs, and you don't really need Hyde to get there, then offer the guy something more compelling. Like Hyde plus another player that would start for the other team and help him make up the big gap between his team and the rest of the league.
In regards to keeping him: At this point, with Mayfield almost certainly at the helm, I may ride with Hyde as even with Tyrod Taylor he was -- although TD-dependent -- still averaging eleven points in a very small sample size with game scripts unsuited for him. I also personally believe in him: I always thought he was an underrated runner in bad situations, and now his situation is looking up. Questions about Bell's shape and how he'll come back also linger. I might have actually offered the guy a really good deal, as Bojang noted. But that's opinion-based, and you have a different one.
This league is non-PPR, so Hyde's deficiencies catching the ball don't hurt him here.
Thanks for your time and suggestion, and I'll end the hijack.
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Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
As someone who sold him earlier this season in dynasty, I'd say no. He's a hold if you're competing.
But if you're getting rid of assets, I cannot imagine his price will ever get higher.
mphtrilogy
Footballguy
He is now my #1RB...
TheFanatic
Footballguy
Same here. But then again, he became my #1 RB the minute Bell decided not to show up. With his play, it has become undisputed, but still. It was a foregone conclusion just before week 1 for me.
Elevencents
Footballguy
Wow I didn’t realize he had 5 TDs. Should be interesting going forward with Chubb impressing. I don’t think they’re in a hurry to spell Hyde but his touches could slowly decline until it’s full on RBBC.
TartanLion
Footballguy
Strangely I have had him on my bench all season. I’m going to be starting him going forward asap, but thinking maybe not this week against a really tough BAL run D.
Actually, I don't think it is far fetched for this to slowly shift past RBBC to the point where Hyde is the one spelling Chubb for a few carries per game.
Just watched OT of the Ravens game. On the 1st series Hyde had a really piss poor block on a Mayfield sack. On the Browns last possession it was Duke Johnson running up the gut to get the last couple of yards for FG position. Only thing I can think of is they benched Hyde because of the block? Just seemed strange to me to give Duke the tough between the tackle yards but that's the only explanation I can think of.
Now this week as they are WR depleted you've also got Hue talking about how they need to get Duke the ball more. Pretty much lol at anything Hue says but still could be a situation to monitor this weekend.
Now this week as they are WR depleted you've also got Hue talking about how they need to get Duke the ball more. Pretty much lol at anything Hue says but still could be a situation to monitor this weekend.
chad in Indy
Footballguy
BroncoFreak_2K3
sucker for Orange
Hes Heading to Jacksonville
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tkrull
Footballguy
BroncoFreak_2K3
sucker for Orange
Traded to Jacksonville
LionOfGosforth
Footballguy
As a Hyde and Chubb owner, I should be...excited maybe?
Same here... I'm excited for Chubb, but not sure what to make of Hyde going forward.
LionOfGosforth
Footballguy
I'm personally not going to, I had benched him for Godwin at flex but now considering Chubb (whom I nearly cut last night during waivers). Interesting decision now, Hyde could be decent there but think that's a wait and see scenario.
That's my thinking. Definitely starting Chubb, though, and picked up Duke Johnson as a Chubb handcuff. I wonder if I should try to trade Hyde to the Yeldon or Fournette owner.
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
As someone with little sense of real NFL value trade, does this mean anything that would give us additional insight?
Is this what we would think Hyde is generally worth?
Is it slightly overpaying (indicating that JAX is a little more desperate in finding a solid ROS option)?
Is it slightly underpaying (indicating that it's more of a stop-gap and Fournette may be back this season)?
An obviously desperate Fournette owner wants to know....
TheFanatic
Footballguy
With injuries and byes I have to start him. I hope that monster game last night by the Denver D can sustain me because Hyde ain't scoring squat this weekend.
Judge Smails
Footballguy
I owned Yeldon so don't necessarily mind this. Tells me Fournette is worse than anyone thought. If it was just a week or two they would have signed another FA scrub.
themeistersinger
Footballguy
I can't read all the tea leaves, but as a comparison, the Eagles gave up a fourth round pick last year for Ajayi, and Gase absolutely wanted him off the team, and everybody knew it.. You would think the Browns would have asked around if anybody was willing to give up more than a fifth (and possibly late fifth) before pulling the trigger, but they are the Browns.
BroncoFreak_2K3
sucker for Orange
What’s this do for Jamal Charles value??????????!????
Football Jones
Footballguy
On the surface, you can guage the value of a player by price (5th round). That said, contract terms can alter a player’s value, sometimes by a lot.
In this case, I’m not familiar with Hyde’s contract (without looking) so I can’t comment. As far as straight value (according to price), I’d say Hyde is viewed as a top backup-type.
