RB Kyren Williams, LAR (1 Viewer)

[kyoun1e]

Anyone successfully sell high here? I'd be curious what you've netted in return.

Kyren still at peak value if I believe what I'm seeing in various trade value charts. I'm also surprised that the following RBs (who are at low value right now) are in the same ballpark or with lower values:

* R. Stevenson (Could be dropped if he bombs out again).
* D. Henry (Spears chipping away at him)
* J. Cook (dud last week plus RBBC fear)
* Brian Robinson (poor game script last week).

Hell...even T. Pollard's trade value is in the same ballpark. And those owners are feeling down right now (and I see Kyren's projections HIGHER than Pollards this week).

Tinkering with the idea of targeting J. Cook or R. Stevenson and trying to get one of them PLUS WR help.

Anyone work any deals?

Thanks

 

[Birdie048]

I put Kyren & Zach Evans on the Trade Block last week.... No bites ...
Even from the competing team who lost Chubb, Dobbins & Connor .

 

[Wigglytuff's Gruff]

Kyren moved for a likely mid 2nd from a bad team to a decent one in my Dynasty.

 

[Hartliner]

Anyone successfully sell high here? I'd be curious what you've netted in return.

Kyren still at peak value if I believe what I'm seeing in various trade value charts. I'm also surprised that the following RBs (who are at low value right now) are in the same ballpark or with lower values:

* R. Stevenson (Could be dropped if he bombs out again).
* D. Henry (Spears chipping away at him)
* J. Cook (dud last week plus RBBC fear)
* Brian Robinson (poor game script last week).

Hell...even T. Pollard's trade value is in the same ballpark. And those owners are feeling down right now (and I see Kyren's projections HIGHER than Pollards this week).

Tinkering with the idea of targeting J. Cook or R. Stevenson and trying to get one of them PLUS WR help.

Anyone work any deals?

Thanks

Pre week 5 results, I did get Breece Hall for Kyren Williams. Deciding factor was Saleh’s comments about no more snap count.

Ekeler, Hall, Ford for Barkley, Kyren, AJ Dillon.

This week if you have Kyren, I’d target Pacheco granted you have instant trades or have a good commish who can approve trades, Pacheco got the matchup of Den LAC Den and might be RB 1 overall after those dream matchups. So if you don’t like him after that you can trade him again.

 

[ohio#1eaglesfan]

Anyone successfully sell high here? I'd be curious what you've netted in return.

Kyren still at peak value if I believe what I'm seeing in various trade value charts. I'm also surprised that the following RBs (who are at low value right now) are in the same ballpark or with lower values:

* R. Stevenson (Could be dropped if he bombs out again).
* D. Henry (Spears chipping away at him)
* J. Cook (dud last week plus RBBC fear)
* Brian Robinson (poor game script last week).

Hell...even T. Pollard's trade value is in the same ballpark. And those owners are feeling down right now (and I see Kyren's projections HIGHER than Pollards this week).

Tinkering with the idea of targeting J. Cook or R. Stevenson and trying to get one of them PLUS WR help.

Anyone work any deals?

Thanks

Williams is a bell cow on a good offense. I wouldn’t trade him for any of those rbs you listed except for maybe Pollard

 

[kface]

Anyone successfully sell high here? I'd be curious what you've netted in return.

Kyren still at peak value if I believe what I'm seeing in various trade value charts. I'm also surprised that the following RBs (who are at low value right now) are in the same ballpark or with lower values:

* R. Stevenson (Could be dropped if he bombs out again).
* D. Henry (Spears chipping away at him)
* J. Cook (dud last week plus RBBC fear)
* Brian Robinson (poor game script last week).

Hell...even T. Pollard's trade value is in the same ballpark. And those owners are feeling down right now (and I see Kyren's projections HIGHER than Pollards this week).

Tinkering with the idea of targeting J. Cook or R. Stevenson and trying to get one of them PLUS WR help.

Anyone work any deals?

Thanks

Williams is a bell cow on a good offense. I wouldn’t trade him for any of those rbs you listed except for maybe Pollard

I think williams ends up ahead of pollard at the end of they year. He looks good on a great offense

 

[Winning IS Everything]

I might not mind moving him for Pacheco, but not sure the Pacheco owner would do it in my league. He is a KC fanatic and also owns Mahomes.

 

[themeistersinger]

Anyone successfully sell high here? I'd be curious what you've netted in return.

Kyren still at peak value if I believe what I'm seeing in various trade value charts. I'm also surprised that the following RBs (who are at low value right now) are in the same ballpark or with lower values:

* R. Stevenson (Could be dropped if he bombs out again).
* D. Henry (Spears chipping away at him)
* J. Cook (dud last week plus RBBC fear)
* Brian Robinson (poor game script last week).

Hell...even T. Pollard's trade value is in the same ballpark. And those owners are feeling down right now (and I see Kyren's projections HIGHER than Pollards this week).

Tinkering with the idea of targeting J. Cook or R. Stevenson and trying to get one of them PLUS WR help.

Anyone work any deals?

Thanks

Williams is a bell cow on a good offense. I wouldn’t trade him for any of those rbs you listed except for maybe Pollard

I think williams ends up ahead of pollard at the end of they year. He looks good on a great offense

All that is true, but the concern is that with such heavy utilization, he won't hold up and will get injured. I'd love to trade out of Kyren but he's by far my top RB and I need the points now. (My others are Rhamondre Stevenson, Dameon Pierce, Jaylen Warren, Jerome Ford, Tyjae Spears, and Jeff Wilson in the IR spot).

 

[kface]

Anyone successfully sell high here? I'd be curious what you've netted in return.

Kyren still at peak value if I believe what I'm seeing in various trade value charts. I'm also surprised that the following RBs (who are at low value right now) are in the same ballpark or with lower values:

* R. Stevenson (Could be dropped if he bombs out again).
* D. Henry (Spears chipping away at him)
* J. Cook (dud last week plus RBBC fear)
* Brian Robinson (poor game script last week).

Hell...even T. Pollard's trade value is in the same ballpark. And those owners are feeling down right now (and I see Kyren's projections HIGHER than Pollards this week).

Tinkering with the idea of targeting J. Cook or R. Stevenson and trying to get one of them PLUS WR help.

Anyone work any deals?

Thanks

Williams is a bell cow on a good offense. I wouldn’t trade him for any of those rbs you listed except for maybe Pollard

I think williams ends up ahead of pollard at the end of they year. He looks good on a great offense

All that is true, but the concern is that with such heavy utilization, he won't hold up and will get injured. I'd love to trade out of Kyren but he's by far my top RB and I need the points now. (My others are Rhamondre Stevenson, Dameon Pierce, Jaylen Warren, Jerome Ford, Tyjae Spears, and Jeff Wilson in the IR spot).

So you would trade out of a guy getting 20 touches a game to get a guy getting 12 touches a game because he might get injured? That's usually not the decision making process

 

[dmac37]

After week 1 I moved Kyren and a late 3rd for Purdy in a 1 QB dynasty. I lost Rodgers and both Pickett and Howell looked bad, my team is ready to win and I needed a QB I could trust. Did not expect Kyren to keep the stranglehold on the Ram backfield. May have been a trade that works for both sides but I do not see Kyren in the same situation next year.

 

[Payne]

I think the wheels are about to fall off. He is dinged up, undersized and relying heavily on TD's. Kupp is going to eat into that.

Not saying I don't see him as an RB2 going forward, but I don't think he will keep up the pace he started. We started to see that last week.

 

[Gally]

Kupp is going to eat into that.

While Kupp may eat into some TD's he likely will also open up running lanes while defenses focus on the passing game. Overall I think Kupp's return helps Williams prospects.

 

[DeaLerZ]

Kupp is going to eat into that.

While Kupp may eat into some TD's he likely will also open up running lanes while defenses focus on the passing game. Overall I think Kupp's return helps Williams prospects.

Honestly, I like Rivers as a bench stash right now. Kyren Williams has been the worst RB in the league as far as RB efficiency goes 3 weeks in a row. Don't let the TD's fool you. You have to think the Rams are starting to notice his lack off effectiveness, and that Rivers might get more of a chance. Not that he is anything amazing, but McVay is known to switch RB's at the drop of a hat.

 

[ohio#1eaglesfan]

I think the wheels are about to fall off. He is dinged up, undersized and relying heavily on TD's. Kupp is going to eat into that.

Not saying I don't see him as an RB2 going forward, but I don't think he will keep up the pace he started. We started to see that last week.

Eagles are number 1 against the run. Their front owns the line of scrimmage every week.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

I think the wheels are about to fall off. He is dinged up, undersized and relying heavily on TD's. Kupp is going to eat into that.

Not saying I don't see him as an RB2 going forward, but I don't think he will keep up the pace he started. We started to see that last week.

Eagles are number 1 against the run. Their front owns the line of scrimmage every week.

Yep. We can’t really read much into any RB after they play the Eagles.

I get selling Williams if you’re in dynasty because McVay churns through RBs and his advanced metrics aren’t the best. In redraft, though, I’d be content to ride with him. This is shaping up to be a top offense and he’s the bellcow.

 

[travdogg]

Kupp is going to eat into that.

While Kupp may eat into some TD's he likely will also open up running lanes while defenses focus on the passing game. Overall I think Kupp's return helps Williams prospects.

Honestly, I like Rivers as a bench stash right now. Kyren Williams has been the worst RB in the league as far as RB efficiency goes 3 weeks in a row. Don't let the TD's fool you. You have to think the Rams are starting to notice his lack off effectiveness, and that Rivers might get more of a chance. Not that he is anything amazing, but McVay is known to switch RB's at the drop of a hat.

Kyren Williams has absolutely not been the least efficient RB 3 weeks in a row. That's a ridiculous statement.

He's actually been getting more efficient by the week. His YPC has literally gone up each week this season, his PFF grade was the highest its been all season against Philly last week. That'll probably continue as teams have to fear the passing game much more with Kupp there now. Williams had more success than any RB who has faced the Eagles so far.

Rivers might be a fine bench stash, Williams has gotten banged up, and is a smaller back who wins more with vision than speed or big plays, so he could take more hits than most RBs. That said, I think it will take an injury, as Kyren has the starting job on lock, and that's not changing at all. McVay's history of switching RBs isn't really a thing either, that's entirely Cam Akers specific.

 

[LionOfGosforth]

Kupp is going to eat into that.

While Kupp may eat into some TD's he likely will also open up running lanes while defenses focus on the passing game. Overall I think Kupp's return helps Williams prospects.

Honestly, I like Rivers as a bench stash right now. Kyren Williams has been the worst RB in the league as far as RB efficiency goes 3 weeks in a row. Don't let the TD's fool you. You have to think the Rams are starting to notice his lack off effectiveness, and that Rivers might get more of a chance. Not that he is anything amazing, but McVay is known to switch RB's at the drop of a hat.

Utter garbage.

 

[Rubi]

Don't let the TD's fool you? I'm confused.
I must be a fool because I am very happy when my players score TD's.
He's the tenth ranked running back in fantasy points scored per touch.
Not bad for a guy probably drafted pretty late( I got him with a 20th and last pick) or plucked from the waiver wire.

 

[DeaLerZ]

Kupp is going to eat into that.

While Kupp may eat into some TD's he likely will also open up running lanes while defenses focus on the passing game. Overall I think Kupp's return helps Williams prospects.

Honestly, I like Rivers as a bench stash right now. Kyren Williams has been the worst RB in the league as far as RB efficiency goes 3 weeks in a row. Don't let the TD's fool you. You have to think the Rams are starting to notice his lack off effectiveness, and that Rivers might get more of a chance. Not that he is anything amazing, but McVay is known to switch RB's at the drop of a hat.

Kyren Williams has absolutely not been the least efficient RB 3 weeks in a row. That's a ridiculous statement.

He's actually been getting more efficient by the week. His YPC has literally gone up each week this season, his PFF grade was the highest its been all season against Philly last week. That'll probably continue as teams have to fear the passing game much more with Kupp there now. Williams had more success than any RB who has faced the Eagles so far.

Rivers might be a fine bench stash, Williams has gotten banged up, and is a smaller back who wins more with vision than speed or big plays, so he could take more hits than most RBs. That said, I think it will take an injury, as Kyren has the starting job on lock, and that's not changing at all. McVay's history of switching RBs isn't really a thing either, that's entirely Cam Akers specific.

"last in rushing yards over expectation per attempt this is the 3rd time in the last 4 weeks that he has been the worst RB in the NFL. He has been worst than AJ Dillion, Jamal Williams, and Clyde Edwards Helaire".... a quote from an analyst from footballguys

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[DeaLerZ]

Kupp is going to eat into that.

While Kupp may eat into some TD's he likely will also open up running lanes while defenses focus on the passing game. Overall I think Kupp's return helps Williams prospects.

Honestly, I like Rivers as a bench stash right now. Kyren Williams has been the worst RB in the league as far as RB efficiency goes 3 weeks in a row. Don't let the TD's fool you. You have to think the Rams are starting to notice his lack off effectiveness, and that Rivers might get more of a chance. Not that he is anything amazing, but McVay is known to switch RB's at the drop of a hat.

Utter garbage.

"last in rushing yards over expectation per attempt this is the 3rd time in the last 4 weeks that he has been the worst RB in the NFL. He has been worst than AJ Dillion, Jamal Williams, and Clyde Edwards Helaire".... a quote from an analyst from footballguys

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about 10 minutes in

 

[LionOfGosforth]

Kupp is going to eat into that.

While Kupp may eat into some TD's he likely will also open up running lanes while defenses focus on the passing game. Overall I think Kupp's return helps Williams prospects.

Honestly, I like Rivers as a bench stash right now. Kyren Williams has been the worst RB in the league as far as RB efficiency goes 3 weeks in a row. Don't let the TD's fool you. You have to think the Rams are starting to notice his lack off effectiveness, and that Rivers might get more of a chance. Not that he is anything amazing, but McVay is known to switch RB's at the drop of a hat.

Utter garbage.

"last in rushing yards over expectation per attempt this is the 3rd time in the last 4 weeks that he has been the worst RB in the NFL. He has been worst than AJ Dillion, Jamal Williams, and Clyde Edwards Helaire".... a quote from an analyst from footballguys

Week 6 Waiver Wire: 23 Players to Add or Drop | Fantasy Football 2023

Alfredo Brown and Dave Kluge break down 23 players to add or drop on the week 6 waiver wire for fantasy football. #fantasyfootball #fantasyfootballadvice #nf...

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about 10 minutes in

Ok but what on earth is "expectation per attempt"?

 

[Ardbeg4ever]

I quit the "points per yards over expectation per attempt" league I was in. Most of my leagues are now points per "air yards", "breakaway run rate", "yards per route run" and "target share" scoring... so much better

 

[themeistersinger]

I quit the "points per yards over expectation per attempt" league I was in. Most of my leagues are now points per "air yards", "breakaway run rate", "yards per route run" and "target share" scoring... so much better

I'm deeply religious, so I'm in a league that gives triple points for Prayer Yards.

 

[Ardbeg4ever]

I quit the "points per yards over expectation per attempt" league I was in. Most of my leagues are now points per "air yards", "breakaway run rate", "yards per route run" and "target share" scoring... so much better

I'm deeply religious, so I'm in a league that gives triple points for Prayer Yards.

Kyle Pitts at 1.1?

 

[travdogg]

I quit the "points per yards over expectation per attempt" league I was in. Most of my leagues are now points per "air yards", "breakaway run rate", "yards per route run" and "target share" scoring... so much better

I'm deeply religious, so I'm in a league that gives triple points for Prayer Yards.

Kyle Pitts at 1.1?

Not over Olave

 

[zed2283]

Guess I should have sold high on this bum

 

[kface]

Guess I should have sold high on this bum

you spoke way to early...

 

[zed2283]

Guess I should have sold high on this bum

you spoke way to early...

Did I...?

 

[kface]

Guess I should have sold high on this bum

you spoke way to early...

Did I...?

yes, yes you did

 

[cockroach]

Guess I should have sold high on this bum

you spoke way to early...

Did I...?

I mean it's AZ but he looks great. Just fought off a 300 LB lineman for that TD there.

 

[Faust]

Next Gen Stats
Kyren Williams gained a career-high 126 rushing yards on 13 carries outside the tackles against the Cardinals.

Williams did not face 8+ defenders in the box on any of his 20+ carries for the second time this season. No other player has one such game.

#LAvsARI | #RamsHouse

https://twitter.com/nextgenstats/status/1713707220112912633?s=21

 

[kdpatron15]

I’m seeing on X he got hurt? is that true?

 

[travdogg]

I’m seeing on X he got hurt? is that true?

He came out at the end with an ankle injury, but it also could have been a game is over type thing. McVay didn;t sound too concerned. Also Rivers picked up a knee injury, so...

Based on McVay's comments, both guys should be fine.

 

[dblock05]

Who would be the handcuff? Rivers or Evans?

 

[leftcoastheel]

rams house!

 

[Faust]

Rams RB Kyren Williams was ready when his moment came

 

[LionOfGosforth]

After losing Chubb, this guy plus Swift and KW3 are saving my RB corp.

 

[kyoun1e]

What's the deal with his ankle?

Hearing he's getting an MRI but McVay seemed to pooh pooh it yesterday.

 

[jobarules]

He wasn't seen in a boot so doesn't sound like anything too bad or long term.

 

[fatness]

Per Ian Rapoport of NFL Media, starter Kyren Williams is dealing with an ankle injury and is set to have an MRI. Williams did not leave the stadium with a walking boot.

Ronnie Rivers is believed to have a PCL sprain that could sideline him for a few weeks. He is also set to have an MRI.

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profo...-williams-ronnie-rivers-set-to-undergo-an-mri

 

[zeeshan2]

[Schefter] An MRI today revealed that Rams’ RB Kyren Williams has a sprained ankle that is expected to sideline him for Sunday’s game vs. the Steelers but is not considered a long-term injury, per source.

 

[kyoun1e]

So much for McVay saying he'd be ok.

 

[cockroach]

So much for McVay saying he'd be ok.

They're holding him out one game as a precautionary measure in a non conference match. Seems pretty okay to me.

 

[Payne]

So much for McVay saying he'd be ok.

They're holding him out one game as a precautionary measure in a non conference match. Seems pretty okay to me.

He is an average size RB getting a ton of work. Twice in the past 3 weeks he has been injured. Yes I know anyone can get injured, but I think sell high is still the answer long term.

 

[cockroach]

but I think sell high is still the answer long term

Ideally, sure. What are you getting though? A late 2nd? If you're a contender, I think he's a hold.

 

[Cowboysfan8]

I can never have nice things

 

[ahartig]

I can never have nice things

First Achane, then JJ, then D-mont, now Kyren.....

Is it just me or is this season extra crazy with all the injuries

 

[travdogg]

I can never have nice things

First Achane, then JJ, then D-mont, now Kyren.....

Is it just me or is this season extra crazy with all the injuries

This has felt like the most attrition-based season in some time, considering we aren't even halfway through.

 

[BoltNlava]

I'm getting to old for this shiot. I'm subbing every week with no end in sight!

 

[Rubi]

I can never have nice things

First Achane, then JJ, then D-mont, now Kyren.....

Is it just me or is this season extra crazy with all the injuries

This has felt like the most attrition-based season in some time, considering we aren't even halfway through.

More fuel for NFL front offices to not pay top dollar for running backs.