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I'm assuming we are talking about dynasty here. Redraft you are not going to be able to get anything for him so you are better off just holding. Dynasty you might find an owner who is a huge Vikings fan or be able to package him for a better player at another position.
I don't think this is true at all. In fact looking at DLF's September mock data, Patterson actually climbed a few spots in the WR ranks. Was still being drafted as a top 10 WR. It's probably going to go down when they do their October mocks, but there's no way he "can be had for nothing" in dynasty leagues.
It's not even close. Dez was much, much, much better and more polished.
But for how long can this go on? I have shaky receivers after Demarius Thomas, so I have to take fliers on guys like Holmes and (guh) LeFell this week. I don't see Patterson having a place on my team much longer.
At this point, based on the hip issue, I wouldn't argue against cutting him in redraft. Of the three factors mentioned in my quote above, only the third is likely to improve soon. The first two are serious lingering question marks until proven otherwise.
Had to cut him this week. I really had high expectations for this guy but when Adrian Peterson got suspended I suspected that the vikings Offense would be terrible.
Had to do the same, picked up Jarvis Landry who can actually run routes.
There is still hope imo for Harvin. He has at least flashed and has been somewhat involved in the teams game plan. Patterson, outside of 1 run in week one, has shown nothing. He doesn't seem to be anywhere near the receiver that Harvin is at this point.
Just hit the waiver wire in my redraft league.
Harvin should be right there with him.
When you say "looks like" do you really mean that's what it looks like or do you just mean that's what you're guessing based on the results?
Norvs offense doesnt have those types of WR, he like down the field stretch plays, Norvs offense is also very inflexible
Yeah, he's not a "think outside the box" type of coach. And it's killed his teams in the past and present.
This is a good point. CP doesn't seem to be a fit for his offensive philosophy.
His offenses, in general, have been great. I don't think it's fair or accurate to point that as the reason for his HC short-comings.
What I watched he's lined up outside what seems like 90% of the time and the DB is in press coverage almost always. When he lines up in the slot he has more room but they hardly ever line him up there. Can you even throw a bubble screen when the DB is in tight press coverage?
Good luck with your new journey...Too many good prospects to pass up on the wire to keep this turd. He got 8 targets last week, he can't do anything with them. Ffball is a funny thing, he could turn it around, but it doesn't look good.
Some of them have been great - agreed. But flexible? Maybe adaptable would be a better word? I wouldn't agree with that from what I've seen (having watched him as a head coach at his 3 stops).
yeah he got cut in my shallow re-draft league. I snagged him, dont have the nuts to start him yet
I'd rather have Patterson than Bush. Bush is the kind of guy that will never see your lineup except after a fluke game where he scores 2 TD's and then he ruins your next week because you think he's back. You probably won't ever feel comfortable enough to cut him. I'd rather take a shot with Patterson getting it together and if not, just cut him.
Bush has more receptions than Patterson in fewer games. He's more consistent, productive, and plays at a more premium position. Looks like a no brainer to me.
I don't want to get off track here but I'm starting Bush with confidence this w/e. Was healthy enough to play last week, at home, going against his old team. This is a Flex2 spot, where I started CP weeks 1 & 2.
I think most would agree with it. It obviously depends on the situation but assuming I'm getting by just fine without needing Bush or Patterson, I'd rather have the guy with a huge ceiling and is also easier to move on from. I feel like Bush is one of the guys that it would be really hard to cut, but you're not really going to want to start him either. Patterson is more of a flyer at this point. Stash him for as long as you can to see if he puts it together and if he doesn't then just grab someone you like off waivers. I'd rather churn through high ceiling guys hoping to get one to hit than have a guy that I think might be a flex a week or two.Concept Coop said:
Both dropped in our league this morning and grabbed Bush without thinking twice. Patterson still available.
