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if its any consolation.....I really wanted Robinson more than Williams at the last turn....but was trying to have my cake and eat it too by taking CEH's backup from you in case you were going that direction and thought D-rob would make it back easily......(and Slayton was next btw).....
After this, I just took a lot of lottery tickets.-OZ- said:
I had a list of about 6 receivers I wanted at this next turn. Y'all took them. ..!..
you got David....not Duke.....not sure/couldn't tell by your summary exactly who since it kinda fits both.....but David (who you have) has Ingram and Lindsey in town now so not sure how that affects your assessment if it all...Duke a FA....either way.....6.12 Aaron Rodgers GBP QB6
7.01 Justin Herbert LAC QB7
For better or worse, my 6-7 double-tap will go a long way toward determining my success in this draft. Even if they just marginally outperform their draft slots, I could well wind up with 600 points from the QB position, which will hide a lot of warts. With 25 rounds at play, it was tough to resist burning a late-rounder on a QB3, but the me who doubled up early made the week-later me swear not to give into the temptation, so here we are.
1.01 McCaffrey, Christian CAR RB1
5.01 Travis Etienne ROOK RB22
11.01 Duke Johnson HOU RB37
14.12 James Conner ARZ RB47
19.01 Gio Bernard TBB RB60
22.12 Marlon Mack IND RB65
I'd say "top-heavy" is a pretty apt description here. It wouldn't shock me to see ETN wind up the first back off the board, and regardless of landing spot he's got top-12 talent if he earns enough of a workload. Kinda surprised that Duke was still hanging around on the board this late ... his ceiling days are behind him, but whether or not Watson is under center this year, the Texans will likely be bad enough to require a lot of late-game passing, which should guarantee a floor. IMO I got lucky with Conner's landing spot - we've seen enough from Edmonds to know he's not built to be a 3-down back (neither is Conner for that matter, but hey - we've got a narrative to build here). And I imagine Tom Brady introducing Gio Bernard in camp with a speech like Nicholson in A Few Good Men: "Son, we live in an offense with swing passes, and those passes have to be caught by backs with hands. Who's gonna do it? (points to Jones) You? You, Lt. Fournette?" Might regret only going 6-deep, but the bottom 4 should give me a nice floor.
3.01 A.J. Brown TEN WR9
4.12 Robert Woods LAR WR19
8.12 Brandin Cooks HOU WR38
9.01 Laviska Shenault JAX WR39
12.12 Cole Beasley BUF WR55
15.01 Darnell Mooney CHI WR60
16.12 Denzel Mims NYJ WR69
21.01 Jakobi Meyers NEP WR78
25.01 Tylan Wallace ROOK WR93
Pretty much the polar opposite of my RB stable - a really solid floor at the top, and lots of depth and ceiling everywhere else. With Davis and Jonnu out of town, AJB ought to see increased targets, and I'm done doubting the Titans' supposedly unsustainable pass-game efficiency. Second-year speedsters are my favorite archetype in these draft formats - developmental upside plus best-ball cheat codes - and I think I got three promising ones in Shenault / Mooney / Mims (four, if you count Albert O.) Beasley is really the Frank Gore of WRs - disrespected by ADP every year yet somehow always finishing in the top 25-30 at his position. Wallace ought to be a Day 2 pick, and quite a few of those have popped as rookies of late, so here's hoping. Probably wind up pulling one or two weekly flex scores from this bunch pretty consistently.
2.12 George Kittle SFO TE3
10.12 Irv Smith MIN TE17
24.12 Albert Okwuegbunam DEN TE36
In my mind at least, my two biggest steals of the draft were my TE1 and 2. Kittle is as close to unstoppable across the middle of the field as anyone in the sport not named Travis Kelce. Cousins loves him some TEs on crossing routes and goal-line patterns and, while Smith had already been getting a decent share of those high-value looks, 1-2 more a week in the wake of Rudolph's departure can be the difference between a low-to-mid TE2 and a low-to-mid TE1. Already referenced AO last paragraph - hoping he bounces back quickly from his ACL. Should be near the top at the position with this trio.
13.01 Ravens DST BAL Def5
17.01 Saints DST NOS Def14
20.12 Giants DST NYG Def24
Even though DST scoring isn't as nuts as in last year's iteration, I knew I wanted at least one really good unit and at least 3 total - I'd have preferred 4, but played chicken a couple rounds too long to make that happen. The Saints in particular play a high-risk, high-reward style that suits this format perfectly.
18.12 Wil Lutz NOS PK10
23.01 Robbie Gould SFO PK16
Two kickers should be plenty when they're as good at their jobs as these two.
*****
It's easy to like rosters this deep in 12-team leagues, I suppose, but I feel pretty good about this group. (I will say that drafting from the turn in 12-teamers is a hundred times easier than in the 16-man survivors.) I guess I feel relatively exposed to some top-end injury risk at QB / RB / TE, but you've gotta spend those high draft picks somewhere, and with the expanded flex potential loading up draft capital at one position didn't seem like a winning formula.
Big props to @Stinkin Ref for keeping these rolling for another offseason. BOL to everyone.
That's a fair comp. Beasley ends up being around the #30 wr, mostly because he plays each week. On average he's around 32 and 44 ppg the last two years. Good value if he maintains, and provides a solid floor to shoot high on others.) Beasley is really the Frank Gore of WRs - disrespected by ADP every year yet somehow always finishing in the top 25-30 at his position.
This is my favorite not-mine squad. No bad picks, several nice values, solid roster construction, and always nice to get the top player to start the draft.6.12 Aaron Rodgers GBP QB6
7.01 Justin Herbert LAC QB7
For better or worse, my 6-7 double-tap will go a long way toward determining my success in this draft. Even if they just marginally outperform their draft slots, I could well wind up with 600 points from the QB position, which will hide a lot of warts. With 25 rounds at play, it was tough to resist burning a late-rounder on a QB3, but the me who doubled up early made the week-later me swear not to give into the temptation, so here we are.
1.01 McCaffrey, Christian CAR RB1
5.01 Travis Etienne ROOK RB22
11.01 Duke Johnson HOU RB37
14.12 James Conner ARZ RB47
19.01 Gio Bernard TBB RB60
22.12 Marlon Mack IND RB65
I'd say "top-heavy" is a pretty apt description here. It wouldn't shock me to see ETN wind up the first back off the board, and regardless of landing spot he's got top-12 talent if he earns enough of a workload. Kinda surprised that Duke was still hanging around on the board this late ... his ceiling days are behind him, but whether or not Watson is under center this year, the Texans will likely be bad enough to require a lot of late-game passing, which should guarantee a floor. IMO I got lucky with Conner's landing spot - we've seen enough from Edmonds to know he's not built to be a 3-down back (neither is Conner for that matter, but hey - we've got a narrative to build here). And I imagine Tom Brady introducing Gio Bernard in camp with a speech like Nicholson in A Few Good Men: "Son, we live in an offense with swing passes, and those passes have to be caught by backs with hands. Who's gonna do it? (points to Jones) You? You, Lt. Fournette?" Might regret only going 6-deep, but the bottom 4 should give me a nice floor.
3.01 A.J. Brown TEN WR9
4.12 Robert Woods LAR WR19
8.12 Brandin Cooks HOU WR38
9.01 Laviska Shenault JAX WR39
12.12 Cole Beasley BUF WR55
15.01 Darnell Mooney CHI WR60
16.12 Denzel Mims NYJ WR69
21.01 Jakobi Meyers NEP WR78
25.01 Tylan Wallace ROOK WR93
Pretty much the polar opposite of my RB stable - a really solid floor at the top, and lots of depth and ceiling everywhere else. With Davis and Jonnu out of town, AJB ought to see increased targets, and I'm done doubting the Titans' supposedly unsustainable pass-game efficiency. Second-year speedsters are my favorite archetype in these draft formats - developmental upside plus best-ball cheat codes - and I think I got three promising ones in Shenault / Mooney / Mims (four, if you count Albert O.) Beasley is really the Frank Gore of WRs - disrespected by ADP every year yet somehow always finishing in the top 25-30 at his position. Wallace ought to be a Day 2 pick, and quite a few of those have popped as rookies of late, so here's hoping. Probably wind up pulling one or two weekly flex scores from this bunch pretty consistently.
2.12 George Kittle SFO TE3
10.12 Irv Smith MIN TE17
24.12 Albert Okwuegbunam DEN TE36
In my mind at least, my two biggest steals of the draft were my TE1 and 2. Kittle is as close to unstoppable across the middle of the field as anyone in the sport not named Travis Kelce. Cousins loves him some TEs on crossing routes and goal-line patterns and, while Smith had already been getting a decent share of those high-value looks, 1-2 more a week in the wake of Rudolph's departure can be the difference between a low-to-mid TE2 and a low-to-mid TE1. Already referenced AO last paragraph - hoping he bounces back quickly from his ACL. Should be near the top at the position with this trio.
13.01 Ravens DST BAL Def5
17.01 Saints DST NOS Def14
20.12 Giants DST NYG Def24
Even though DST scoring isn't as nuts as in last year's iteration, I knew I wanted at least one really good unit and at least 3 total - I'd have preferred 4, but played chicken a couple rounds too long to make that happen. The Saints in particular play a high-risk, high-reward style that suits this format perfectly.
18.12 Wil Lutz NOS PK10
23.01 Robbie Gould SFO PK16
Two kickers should be plenty when they're as good at their jobs as these two.
*****
It's easy to like rosters this deep in 12-team leagues, I suppose, but I feel pretty good about this group. (I will say that drafting from the turn in 12-teamers is a hundred times easier than in the 16-man survivors.) I guess I feel relatively exposed to some top-end injury risk at QB / RB / TE, but you've gotta spend those high draft picks somewhere, and with the expanded flex potential loading up draft capital at one position didn't seem like a winning formula.
Big props to @Stinkin Ref for keeping these rolling for another offseason. BOL to everyone.
21.10 Williams, Darrel KCC RB61thoughts on my guys and a few picks made each round.....
1.10 Elliott, Ezekiel DAL RB8
2.03 Metcalf, DK SEA WR4
3.10 Mahomes, Patrick KCC QB2
4.03 Carson, Chris SEA RB21
5.10 Thielen, Adam MIN WR24
6.03 Pitts, Kyle FA TE9
7.10 Brady, Tom TBB QB10
8.03 Tonyan, Robert GBP TE12
9.10 Higbee, Tyler LAR TE14
10.03 Harris, Damien NEP RB34
11.10 Hardman, Mecole KCC WR48
12.03 Williams, Mike LAC WR52
13.10 Jones, Marvin JAC WR57
14.03 Ruggs, Henry LVR WR58
15.10 Broncos, Denver DEN Def12
16.03 Koo, Younghoe ATL PK3
17.10 Singletary, Devin BUF RB53
18.03 Murray, Latavius NOS RB54
19.10 Titans, Tennessee TEN Def18
20.03 Myers, Jason SEA PK14
21.10 TBD
22.03 TBD
23.10 TBD
24.03 TBD
25.10 TBD
Stinkin Ref said:
so, I get the 1.01 this year!I'd like to congratulate myself for winning Ref's 12 Teamer league.....props to Bass and Crippler for the silver and bronze...below are the final standings...
LEAGUE STANDINGS
FRANCHISE PF AVG PF
Stinkin Ref 3269.40 181.6
BassNBrew 3136.85 174.3
Crippler 3110.35 172.8
Shadowfax 3023.70 168.0
Old Milwaukee 2956.60 164.3
Duckboy 2846.00 158.1
bro1ncos 2818.05 156.6
Mr. Irrelevant 2755.85 153.1
rzrback77 2744.05 152.4
ZWK 2616.05 145.3
Drunken Slob 2535.10 140.8
OZ 2525.55 140.3
WINNING ROSTER
3.10 Mahomes, Patrick KCC QB2 ......4
7.10 Brady, Tom TBB QB10........2
Brady finishing QB2 at a QB10 price helped.
1.10 Elliott, Ezekiel DAL RB8......6
4.03 Carson, Chris SEA RB21......77
10.03 Harris, Damien NEP RB34 .......13
17.10 Singletary, Devin BUF RB53 .......20
18.03 Murray, Latavius NOS RB54.....51
21.10 Williams, Darrel KCC RB61.....21
Some pretty good value with Harris, Singletary, and Williams. Especially Williams. Carson was a killer.
2.03 Metcalf, DK SEA WR4.......13
5.10 Thielen, Adam MIN WR24.....29
11.10 Hardman, Mecole KCC WR48......49
12.03 Williams, Mike LAC WR52........12
13.10 Jones, Marvin JAC WR57.......35
14.03 Ruggs, Henry LVR WR58.....84
22.03 Toney, Kadarius FA WR84.....95
24.03 Bourne, Kendrick NEP WR90.......31
25.10 Edwards, Bryan LVR WR 96........65
Metcalf a little disappointing. Williams possible SOD. Bourne turned out to be a solid value pick very late. Rest were meh.
6.03 Pitts, Kyle FA TE9.......6
8.03 Tonyan, Robert GBP TE12.......50
9.10 Higbee, Tyler LAR TE14.......14
Nothing to see here really.
16.03 Koo, Younghoe ATL PK3.....17
20.03 Myers, Jason SEA PK14......24
Thought this would be a strength but much a dumpster fire.
15.10 Broncos, Denver DEN Def12.....9
19.10 Titans, Tennessee TEN Def18......8
23.10 Bengals, Cincinnati CIN Def32......22
DEN and TEN finishing top 10 was helpful.
Overall: I only had 3 guys in the top 50 scorers overall (2 QB's and Zeke). But then 5 in the next 25. Singletary was #100 in scoring. 10 weeks out of 18 a second DST counted as a flex. I was weekly high scorer in 5 weeks.
(19) defenses finished in the top 100 scoring wise. The #32 defense finished as #213 overall. ( probably need to dial that back just a tad) QB32 Winston finished as #135 overall. RB32 Edmonds finished #166 overall. RB64 Collins finished #298. WR32 Myers finished #114. WR 64 Peoples Jones finished #224.
Bass was never weekly high scorer. Crippler twice. Shadowfax three. Old Mil once. Duckboy twice. Broncos once. Mr. I once. Razorback77 once. ZWK twice. Slob and OZ zero.
Nine QB's in top 10. Kupp was #9. Taylor #11.
300 players were drafted. Hunter Renfrow was not drafted and finished as #48 overall and WR10. Dalton Schultz was not drafted and finished #71 overall and TE3 . Amon--Ra St. Brown was not drafted and finished #78 overall and WR 23.
Thanks for playing everybody. Looking forward to teeing it up again soon. Will go take a look at BTSW Summer of Love League next.....
