Anyone with the name "Scrumptrulescent" as their posting name is an ### clown.Anyone who trusts Saban is a fool.
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scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
U of M and GB Packer fan. Just calling aJaded Dolphins fan? Jealous fan of school that has a "great guy" coach but an average football team?Saban was hired to win games and thats what he does. He's also stayed at Alabama long enough to honor his committments to his players and he creates the perfect environment for a player to come, succeed and then ultimately go play in the NFL if they want to.
a here.
scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
Well kencav, apparently you're not a Will Ferrell fan.Anyone with the name "Scrumptrulescent" as their posting name is an ### clown.
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
Now he's denying the incident pretty much in its entirety. But there's too much physical evidence and they can always check the gun residue on his hands. This sounds like the locals just want to let all this go as an argument gone too far, but if McClain is telling lies, he's digging himself a deeper grave.
shader
Footballguy
Well thanks for your opinion. I'm sure all the Bama players who are about to compete for a 2nd national championship and then go on to get drafted in the NFL are really sad that they listened to coach Saban, the fool you can never trust.U of M and GB Packer fan. Just calling aJaded Dolphins fan? Jealous fan of school that has a "great guy" coach but an average football team?Saban was hired to win games and thats what he does. He's also stayed at Alabama long enough to honor his committments to his players and he creates the perfect environment for a player to come, succeed and then ultimately go play in the NFL if they want to.
scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
Guess I touched a nerve.Well thanks for your opinion. I'm sure all the Bama players who are about to compete for a 2nd national championship and then go on to get drafted in the NFL are really sad that they listened to coach Saban, the fool you can never trust.U of M and GB Packer fan. Just calling aJaded Dolphins fan? Jealous fan of school that has a "great guy" coach but an average football team?Saban was hired to win games and thats what he does. He's also stayed at Alabama long enough to honor his committments to his players and he creates the perfect environment for a player to come, succeed and then ultimately go play in the NFL if they want to.
You may be right there. Blackstock sometimes just doesn't cut it in his place.
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
You may be right there. Blackstock sometimes just doesn't cut it in his place.
The 2 games McClain has missed (going back to last year) the Raiders have allowed 533 yds rushing. No...just yourselfGuess I touched a nerve.Well thanks for your opinion. I'm sure all the Bama players who are about to compete for a 2nd national championship and then go on to get drafted in the NFL are really sad that they listened to coach Saban, the fool you can never trust.U of M and GB Packer fan. Just calling aJaded Dolphins fan? Jealous fan of school that has a "great guy" coach but an average football team?Saban was hired to win games and thats what he does. He's also stayed at Alabama long enough to honor his committments to his players and he creates the perfect environment for a player to come, succeed and then ultimately go play in the NFL if they want to.
scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
Cool story bro....Some incredibly defensive Bama fans in this threadNo...just yourselfGuess I touched a nerve.
potsie
Footballguy
Never speak negatively of Lord Saban. You should try living here and dealing with this crap every day. I live in Decatur, and I've always heard that McClain was a punk. Lots of stuff gets covered up being a star athlete in high school and at Bama.Guess I touched a nerve.Well thanks for your opinion. I'm sure all the Bama players who are about to compete for a 2nd national championship and then go on to get drafted in the NFL are really sad that they listened to coach Saban, the fool you can never trust.U of M and GB Packer fan. Just calling aJaded Dolphins fan? Jealous fan of school that has a "great guy" coach but an average football team?Saban was hired to win games and thats what he does. He's also stayed at Alabama long enough to honor his committments to his players and he creates the perfect environment for a player to come, succeed and then ultimately go play in the NFL if they want to.
Link?Never speak negatively of Lord Saban. You should try living here and dealing with this crap every day. I live in Decatur, and I've always heard that McClain was a punk. Lots of stuff gets covered up being a star athlete in high school and at Bama.Guess I touched a nerve.Well thanks for your opinion. I'm sure all the Bama players who are about to compete for a 2nd national championship and then go on to get drafted in the NFL are really sad that they listened to coach Saban, the fool you can never trust.U of M and GB Packer fan. Just calling aJaded Dolphins fan? Jealous fan of school that has a "great guy" coach but an average football team?Saban was hired to win games and thats what he does. He's also stayed at Alabama long enough to honor his committments to his players and he creates the perfect environment for a player to come, succeed and then ultimately go play in the NFL if they want to.
shader
Footballguy
I've always heard the same regarding McClain. Don't know what that has to do with Saban though.Never speak negatively of Lord Saban. You should try living here and dealing with this crap every day. I live in Decatur, and I've always heard that McClain was a punk. Lots of stuff gets covered up being a star athlete in high school and at Bama.Guess I touched a nerve.Well thanks for your opinion. I'm sure all the Bama players who are about to compete for a 2nd national championship and then go on to get drafted in the NFL are really sad that they listened to coach Saban, the fool you can never trust.U of M and GB Packer fan. Just calling aJaded Dolphins fan? Jealous fan of school that has a "great guy" coach but an average football team?Saban was hired to win games and thats what he does. He's also stayed at Alabama long enough to honor his committments to his players and he creates the perfect environment for a player to come, succeed and then ultimately go play in the NFL if they want to.
gump
Footballguy
potsie
Footballguy
Link to the rumors? I'm not sure how that works. I can call my friend that teaches at McClain's high school.
Link?Never speak negatively of Lord Saban. You should try living here and dealing with this crap every day. I live in Decatur, and I've always heard that McClain was a punk. Lots of stuff gets covered up being a star athlete in high school and at Bama.Guess I touched a nerve.Well thanks for your opinion. I'm sure all the Bama players who are about to compete for a 2nd national championship and then go on to get drafted in the NFL are really sad that they listened to coach Saban, the fool you can never trust.U of M and GB Packer fan. Just calling aJaded Dolphins fan? Jealous fan of school that has a "great guy" coach but an average football team?Saban was hired to win games and thats what he does. He's also stayed at Alabama long enough to honor his committments to his players and he creates the perfect environment for a player to come, succeed and then ultimately go play in the NFL if they want to.
Tackling Dummies
Footballguy
Still trying to get my brain around: midweek + attending funeral of a family member + firing a gun by someone's head.
gump
Footballguy
- Football APR improved from 413 to 463 in Sabans tenure- Football Graduation Rate improved from under 40% to 69% in Sabans tenure
- including Ro, arrests have almost disappeared from the Shula era
But other than that...winning is all that matters.
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Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
I guess so. assault is generally 'threatening someone with imminent bodily harm'.
For comparison here is second degree assault. Since the media reports probably would have included it if he actually caused serious physical harm to the victim it likely didn't qualify.
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Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
that sounds like it could be serious physical injury to me? lol at alabama.I don't see any compelling evidence that suggests that McClain's side of the story will exonerate him. What he did, even if it was in defense of a family member or some other justifiable reason crossed the line when he fired the gun past the friend's ear. Not that pistol whipping is ever considered a viable choice of self defense. Add to that the in the arrest photo, he's clearly smiling at the camera in a gangsta FTW pose. I have no sympathy for him, and if he gets the book thrown at him, he deserves it.
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
Did't read this thread huh?
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
FWIWYou may be right there. Blackstock sometimes just doesn't cut it in his place.
ALAMEDA, Calif. (AP) – Oakland coach Hue Jackson said he is disturbed by the allegations against the Raiders' Rolando McClain but hasn't ruled the second-year linebacker out for Sunday's game in Miami.
McClain was arrested Thursday on misdemeanor assault, firearms and other charges after police said he fired a gun during a fight in his Alabama hometown. The eighth overall pick in the 2010 draft, McClain later posted $2,000 bail and was released.
Before McClain was arrested, Jackson said he expected him to play against the Dolphins. Jackson backed off those comments a day later after learning more details about the incident.
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Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
Interesting. This is just a blog, but fwiw.
Rolando McClain's Poor Judgment Likely Won't Keep Him From Field This Season
Rolando McClain is guilty of using horrible judgment. There is no denying that. To what degree, we can't be as certain.
The degree to which McClain was a bonehead, combined with the ability of his legal team, and his attitude going forward, will greatly affect his future with the Raiders. This is not going to be a speedy trial.
What We Know
McClain was arrested Thursday on misdemeanor assault, menacing, reckless endangerment and firing a gun inside the city limits. According to a statement released by Lt. John Crouch of the Decatur Police Department, it is alleged that Ro held a gun beside a man's head during an altercation and the man begged him not to shoot.
Not shockingly, McClain's attorney Billy C. Burney II has a different side to the story, "Mr. McClain asserts his innocence. We are confident that Mr. McClain will be cleared of all charges."
A transcript of the 9-1-1 call aligns with the accusation of a shot being fired from close range. The caller was from a neighboring house and too far away to ID a specific person. No weapon has been found.
Rolando is currently free on a $2,000 bond.
Possible Suspension
There does not appear to be any clear cut evidence at this point. Any criminal charges that Ro faces likely won't be until after the season, and given that they are all misdemeanors, and Ro is likely going to receive some excellent legal counsel, I expect his sentence, if any, will be probation, community service etc.. *Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer, nor did I stay at a Holiday Inn last night.
Now, Roger Goodell certainly doesn't need guilty verdicts to suspend players. He can toss down suspension under the umbrella of "violating the league's personal-conduct policy" for essentially anything he wants, and without any adherence to precedence.
For instance, he suspended Ben Roethlisberger for six games after Ben was accused of sexually assaulting a woman in Georgia. That suspension was later reduced to four games. Big Ben was the first, and I believe only player, to be suspended even though he was not arrested, charged or convicted of a crime.
However, that was the second similar charge against Ben, and Goodell is not keen on repeat offenses. This is the first incident that McClain has been involved in as a pro that could be construed as him violating the personal conduct policy.
There is no way Goodell is going to let this slide without taking some kind of action. This picture sure as hell didn't help his cause with the league.
via p.twimg.com
Given that this is Ro's first run in with the conduct policy, my guess is that Goodell will let the legal process run its course, and wait for more information to come to light, which would mean that any suspension likely wouldn't be issued until next year.
It is almost guaranteed that Ro will play against Miami. The Raiders could suspend, but I can't see them doing that in a case where it is he said-he said. You better believe that they will have choice words and stern warnings. They may even decide to cut him in the offseason is they aren't satisfied with his attitude.
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But as far as the present goes, don't expect them to hand down any suspensions. Here is Hue Jackson when asked if McClain would. This was before McClain was arrested, but after the incident. <br style="line-height: 0.75em; "><br style="line-height: 0.75em; ">
As far as I know. I can tell you we understand and know exactly what's going on, and we feel very comfortable with our information and we don't have any further comment at this time.
Jerry Springer's Final Thought
I'm not going to believe anything anyone says. After an incident like this, it is very likely that both sides are embellishing the story in a way that suits them.
If a person was assaulted by a group of people that included Rolando McClain then it would be potentially financially beneficial for them to say McClain did something that caused "pain and suffering."
That doesn't mean they are lying, it just means I am not going to blindly believe it.
I will also say that I certainly don't want to believe it. Rolando has earned my respect on the field this year. He has been playing solid football while playing through a high ankle sprain, and this defense is way better when he is on the field.
In the two games he has not started since he arrived the Raiders have given up 299 yards rushing to the Broncos(this season) and 234 to the Jaguars (last season).
Guilty of these charges or not though, Rolando clearly needs to start making some choices in his life. His future in the league depends on it. If he wants to be great, then he needs to fully commit to football. That means practicing hard, and that means staying away from situations like this.
As much as I have admired his toughness on the field and his willingness to play through pain, I have never been sold on his drive to make himself better on non-game days. This incident certainly doesn't help dissuade me from that thought.
I am certainly open to him continuing being a Raider. He can learn from these mistakes, and be the kind of professional we'd all thought and hoped he'd be. Ray Lewis was in a similar situation, that had far more tragic results, and by all appearances he has altered his decision making to avoid similar kinds of problems.
However, I am skeptical that Ro' has learned his lesson. Ray Lewis had the threat of serious jail time to help aide him in the process of maturing into a professional.
My fear is that Ro' is the kind of entitled stubborn athlete that will continue to make poor choices because he believes he is good enough to succeed through them.
Rock Cartwright summed this up when asked at some point during the happenings of the day. Here is Rock, quoted from The Associated Press:
All you can do is tell them things, try to give them help, but if they don't want to be helped, then they won't be helped. Once he gets back, I'll try to put a bug in his ear and see what's going on.
Rolando strikes me as the kind of guy that doesn't want to be helped because he doesn't feel he needs it. I imagine Rock has a similar sentiment, or he wouldn't have phrased his comment that way.
Rolando McClain's Poor Judgment Likely Won't Keep Him From Field This Season
Rolando McClain is guilty of using horrible judgment. There is no denying that. To what degree, we can't be as certain.
The degree to which McClain was a bonehead, combined with the ability of his legal team, and his attitude going forward, will greatly affect his future with the Raiders. This is not going to be a speedy trial.
What We Know
McClain was arrested Thursday on misdemeanor assault, menacing, reckless endangerment and firing a gun inside the city limits. According to a statement released by Lt. John Crouch of the Decatur Police Department, it is alleged that Ro held a gun beside a man's head during an altercation and the man begged him not to shoot.
Not shockingly, McClain's attorney Billy C. Burney II has a different side to the story, "Mr. McClain asserts his innocence. We are confident that Mr. McClain will be cleared of all charges."
A transcript of the 9-1-1 call aligns with the accusation of a shot being fired from close range. The caller was from a neighboring house and too far away to ID a specific person. No weapon has been found.
Rolando is currently free on a $2,000 bond.
Possible Suspension
There does not appear to be any clear cut evidence at this point. Any criminal charges that Ro faces likely won't be until after the season, and given that they are all misdemeanors, and Ro is likely going to receive some excellent legal counsel, I expect his sentence, if any, will be probation, community service etc.. *Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer, nor did I stay at a Holiday Inn last night.
Now, Roger Goodell certainly doesn't need guilty verdicts to suspend players. He can toss down suspension under the umbrella of "violating the league's personal-conduct policy" for essentially anything he wants, and without any adherence to precedence.
For instance, he suspended Ben Roethlisberger for six games after Ben was accused of sexually assaulting a woman in Georgia. That suspension was later reduced to four games. Big Ben was the first, and I believe only player, to be suspended even though he was not arrested, charged or convicted of a crime.
However, that was the second similar charge against Ben, and Goodell is not keen on repeat offenses. This is the first incident that McClain has been involved in as a pro that could be construed as him violating the personal conduct policy.
There is no way Goodell is going to let this slide without taking some kind of action. This picture sure as hell didn't help his cause with the league.
via p.twimg.com
Given that this is Ro's first run in with the conduct policy, my guess is that Goodell will let the legal process run its course, and wait for more information to come to light, which would mean that any suspension likely wouldn't be issued until next year.
It is almost guaranteed that Ro will play against Miami. The Raiders could suspend, but I can't see them doing that in a case where it is he said-he said. You better believe that they will have choice words and stern warnings. They may even decide to cut him in the offseason is they aren't satisfied with his attitude.
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But as far as the present goes, don't expect them to hand down any suspensions. Here is Hue Jackson when asked if McClain would. This was before McClain was arrested, but after the incident. <br style="line-height: 0.75em; "><br style="line-height: 0.75em; ">
As far as I know. I can tell you we understand and know exactly what's going on, and we feel very comfortable with our information and we don't have any further comment at this time.
Jerry Springer's Final Thought
I'm not going to believe anything anyone says. After an incident like this, it is very likely that both sides are embellishing the story in a way that suits them.
If a person was assaulted by a group of people that included Rolando McClain then it would be potentially financially beneficial for them to say McClain did something that caused "pain and suffering."
That doesn't mean they are lying, it just means I am not going to blindly believe it.
I will also say that I certainly don't want to believe it. Rolando has earned my respect on the field this year. He has been playing solid football while playing through a high ankle sprain, and this defense is way better when he is on the field.
In the two games he has not started since he arrived the Raiders have given up 299 yards rushing to the Broncos(this season) and 234 to the Jaguars (last season).
Guilty of these charges or not though, Rolando clearly needs to start making some choices in his life. His future in the league depends on it. If he wants to be great, then he needs to fully commit to football. That means practicing hard, and that means staying away from situations like this.
As much as I have admired his toughness on the field and his willingness to play through pain, I have never been sold on his drive to make himself better on non-game days. This incident certainly doesn't help dissuade me from that thought.
I am certainly open to him continuing being a Raider. He can learn from these mistakes, and be the kind of professional we'd all thought and hoped he'd be. Ray Lewis was in a similar situation, that had far more tragic results, and by all appearances he has altered his decision making to avoid similar kinds of problems.
However, I am skeptical that Ro' has learned his lesson. Ray Lewis had the threat of serious jail time to help aide him in the process of maturing into a professional.
My fear is that Ro' is the kind of entitled stubborn athlete that will continue to make poor choices because he believes he is good enough to succeed through them.
Rock Cartwright summed this up when asked at some point during the happenings of the day. Here is Rock, quoted from The Associated Press:
All you can do is tell them things, try to give them help, but if they don't want to be helped, then they won't be helped. Once he gets back, I'll try to put a bug in his ear and see what's going on.
Rolando strikes me as the kind of guy that doesn't want to be helped because he doesn't feel he needs it. I imagine Rock has a similar sentiment, or he wouldn't have phrased his comment that way.
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
Raiders' Hue Jackson uncertain whether Rolando McClain will play
By Jerry McDonald jmcdonald@bayareanewsgroup.comPosted: 12/02/2011 10:46:30 AM PSTUpdated: 12/02/2011 04:56:23 PM PST<br style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: medium; ">Although Rolando McClain hasn't been ruled out of Sunday's game in Miami, coach Hue Jackson made it clear he was disappointed in the conduct of his second-year middle linebacker.
"Here's the bottom line. There's a right way to do things and a wrong way to do things, and obviously there was something done wrong," Jackson said Friday. "So we'll go and deal with that accordingly from there."
Jackson said McClain was not at the team facility but expected a face-to-face meeting in several hours, presumably in Miami, where the Raiders were headed on a charter flight not long after practice concluded.
McClain was arrested and charged with third degree assault, reckless endangerment, menacing and discharging a firearm within city limits Thursday in his hometown of Decatur, Ala., where Jackson said he was attending the funeral of his grandfather.
NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said the league will follow the legal process before making any determination on discipline for McClain.
"It will be reviewed under the personal conduct policy. We do not have an estimated timetable," Aiello said in an e-mail Friday. "It is a legal matter and we will follow developments."
Decatur defense attorney Billy C. Burney told the Associated Press McClain did not fire a gun and gave the following statement: "Mr. McClain asserts his innocence. We are confident Mr. McClain will be cleared of all charges."
Jackson said he was not inclined to wait for
either the NFL or the legal process before determining what was best for the Raiders.
"(I) have now gotten more information and can make a very informed decision on what I think is best for our team and I'll do that in the next day or so," Jackson said. "Obviously, there's a situation that happened and I've had an opportunity to digest it all.
"I have 52 other players that are doing things the right way and doing things as I see they should be doing it and we're getting ready to play a game. I will deal with Rolando when that time comes."
McClain was officially ruled as "questionable." If McClain doesn't play, Darryl Blackstock is next on the depth chart and would get playing time but defensive coordinator Chuck Bresnahan sounded prepared to go on without his starter.
"I'm not going to tell you exactly what we're going to do but we've got a couple of options and you'll see them," Bresnahan said.
For a brief sequence against Chicago, weakside linebacker Aaron Curry was playing as an inside linebacker along with five defensive backs.
Jackson said he is confident McClain's issues will not be a distraction, and Raiders players echoed that sentiment.
"We've got one game at the end of the week and that's our focus for the week," strong safety Tyvon Branch said. "Whatever happens during that week, we have to take care of business on Sundays."
Although the accuser was not named by police, he was identified and quoted by the television station WAFF and the Decatur Daily news as Rishard Tapscott, 23. Tapscott said he was beaten and at one point McClain put a gun to his head, pulled it away and then fired.
McClain and Jerradius Willingham, who was charged with assault and released on a $500 bond, were high school basketball teammates of Tapscott at Decatur High.
According to the Decatur Daily, officials at Decatur High requested that McClain not attend Friday night's game with superintendent Sam Houston telling the paper he doesn't think "it's the right kind of message to send" following the arrest.
"We're not going to let one thing bring down what we're accomplishing, by no stretch of the imagination," Jackson said. "Am I disappointed? Yes, just like anything. You get disappointed in your kids. All these guys are like my sons. And when they make mistakes, there's consequences and things you have to deal with."
By Jerry McDonald jmcdonald@bayareanewsgroup.comPosted: 12/02/2011 10:46:30 AM PSTUpdated: 12/02/2011 04:56:23 PM PST<br style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: medium; ">Although Rolando McClain hasn't been ruled out of Sunday's game in Miami, coach Hue Jackson made it clear he was disappointed in the conduct of his second-year middle linebacker.
"Here's the bottom line. There's a right way to do things and a wrong way to do things, and obviously there was something done wrong," Jackson said Friday. "So we'll go and deal with that accordingly from there."
Jackson said McClain was not at the team facility but expected a face-to-face meeting in several hours, presumably in Miami, where the Raiders were headed on a charter flight not long after practice concluded.
McClain was arrested and charged with third degree assault, reckless endangerment, menacing and discharging a firearm within city limits Thursday in his hometown of Decatur, Ala., where Jackson said he was attending the funeral of his grandfather.
NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said the league will follow the legal process before making any determination on discipline for McClain.
"It will be reviewed under the personal conduct policy. We do not have an estimated timetable," Aiello said in an e-mail Friday. "It is a legal matter and we will follow developments."
Decatur defense attorney Billy C. Burney told the Associated Press McClain did not fire a gun and gave the following statement: "Mr. McClain asserts his innocence. We are confident Mr. McClain will be cleared of all charges."
Jackson said he was not inclined to wait for
either the NFL or the legal process before determining what was best for the Raiders.
"(I) have now gotten more information and can make a very informed decision on what I think is best for our team and I'll do that in the next day or so," Jackson said. "Obviously, there's a situation that happened and I've had an opportunity to digest it all.
"I have 52 other players that are doing things the right way and doing things as I see they should be doing it and we're getting ready to play a game. I will deal with Rolando when that time comes."
McClain was officially ruled as "questionable." If McClain doesn't play, Darryl Blackstock is next on the depth chart and would get playing time but defensive coordinator Chuck Bresnahan sounded prepared to go on without his starter.
"I'm not going to tell you exactly what we're going to do but we've got a couple of options and you'll see them," Bresnahan said.
For a brief sequence against Chicago, weakside linebacker Aaron Curry was playing as an inside linebacker along with five defensive backs.
Jackson said he is confident McClain's issues will not be a distraction, and Raiders players echoed that sentiment.
"We've got one game at the end of the week and that's our focus for the week," strong safety Tyvon Branch said. "Whatever happens during that week, we have to take care of business on Sundays."
Although the accuser was not named by police, he was identified and quoted by the television station WAFF and the Decatur Daily news as Rishard Tapscott, 23. Tapscott said he was beaten and at one point McClain put a gun to his head, pulled it away and then fired.
McClain and Jerradius Willingham, who was charged with assault and released on a $500 bond, were high school basketball teammates of Tapscott at Decatur High.
According to the Decatur Daily, officials at Decatur High requested that McClain not attend Friday night's game with superintendent Sam Houston telling the paper he doesn't think "it's the right kind of message to send" following the arrest.
"We're not going to let one thing bring down what we're accomplishing, by no stretch of the imagination," Jackson said. "Am I disappointed? Yes, just like anything. You get disappointed in your kids. All these guys are like my sons. And when they make mistakes, there's consequences and things you have to deal with."
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Jackson plans on serious talk with McClain
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Friday, December 2nd, 2011 at 12:37 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Middle linebacker Rolando McClain hasn’t been ruled out of Sunday’s game in Miami, but he can expect a serious conversation about his legal problems with head coach Hue Jackson.
“Here’s the bottom line. There’s a right way to do things and a wrong way to do things, and obviously there was something done wrong,’’ Jackson said following practice Friday. “So we’ll go and deal with that accordingly from there.’’
Jackson said McClain was not at the team facility but expected a face-to-face meeting in several hours. The Raiders boarded a charter for Miami following practice.
McClain was arrested and charged with third degree assault, reckless endangerment, meancing and discharging a firearm within city limits Wednesday in his hometown of Decatur, Ala., where he was attending the funeral of his grandfather.
NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said the NFL will follow the legal process before making any determination on discipline for McClain.
“It will be reviewed under the league’s personal conduct policy we do not have an estimated timetable,’’ Aiello said in an e-mail Friday. “It is a legal matter and we will follow developments.’’
Decatur defense attorney Billy C. Burney told the Associated Press McClain did not fire a gun and gave the following statement: “Mr. McClain asserts his innocence. We are confident Mr. McClain will be cleared of all charges.’’
Jackson said he was not inclined to wait for either the NFL or the legal process before determining what was best for the Raiders.
“(I) have now gotten more information and can make a very informed decision on what I think is best for our team and I’ll do that in the next day or so,’’ Jackson said. “Obviously, there’s a situation that happened and I’ve had an opportunity to digest it all. The important thing is we focus on this game.
“I have 52 other players that are doing things the right way and doing things as I see they should be doing it and we’re getting ready to play a game. I will deal with Rolando when that time comes.’’
McClain was officially ruled as “questionable.’’ If McClain doesn’t play, Darryl Blackstock is next on the depth chart and would get playing time but defensive coordinator Chuck Bresnahan said there are other options in terms of aligments and packages if McClain doesn’t play.
Jackson said he is confident McClain’s issues will not be a distraction, and Raiders players echoed that sentiment.
“You can’t be affected by that,’’ quarterback Carson Palmer said. “You need to have your thoughts and prayers with he and his family at a tough time, but this team is 100 percent focused on the Miami Dolphins right now.’’
Said Raiders safety Tyvon Branch:
“We’ve got one game at the end of the week and that’s our focus for the week,’’ Branch said. “Whatever happens during that week, we have to channel that stuff out and take care of business on Sundays.’’
Although the accuser was not named by police, he was identified and quoted by the television station WAFF and the Decatur Daily news as Rishard Tapscott, 23.
McClain and Jerradius Willingham, who was charged with assault and released on a $500 bond, were high school basketball teammates Tapscott at Decatur High School.
In an interview with WAFF, Tapscott explained his side of the story.
“I went over there, it was basically like an ambush, like they set me up to fight, because as soon as I got there they all went outside and I was sitting in the house,’’ Tapscott said. “That’s when they came back in the house and they were like, `You’re going to have to fight, come back out and fight.’ I was like, `I ain’t fighting. I ain’t coming outside,’ and that’s when he came back in the house and assaulted me.’’
According to the police statement, Willingham initially fought with Tapscott, who then crawled to his car. It was at that point McClain allegedly put a gun to his head, with Tapscott begging for him not to shoot.
(Tapscott was referred to as the victim in the report, not by name).
It was then that McClain allegedly put a gun to his head, then pulled away and fired.
Jackson said he was disappointed McClain put himself in a bad situation.
“We’re not going to let one thing bring down what we’re accomplishing, by no stretch of the imagination,’’ Jackson said. “Am I disappointed? Yes, just like anything. You get disappointed in your kids. All these guys are like my sons. And when they make mistakes, there’s consequences and things you have to deal with.’’
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Friday, December 2nd, 2011 at 12:37 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Middle linebacker Rolando McClain hasn’t been ruled out of Sunday’s game in Miami, but he can expect a serious conversation about his legal problems with head coach Hue Jackson.
“Here’s the bottom line. There’s a right way to do things and a wrong way to do things, and obviously there was something done wrong,’’ Jackson said following practice Friday. “So we’ll go and deal with that accordingly from there.’’
Jackson said McClain was not at the team facility but expected a face-to-face meeting in several hours. The Raiders boarded a charter for Miami following practice.
McClain was arrested and charged with third degree assault, reckless endangerment, meancing and discharging a firearm within city limits Wednesday in his hometown of Decatur, Ala., where he was attending the funeral of his grandfather.
NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said the NFL will follow the legal process before making any determination on discipline for McClain.
“It will be reviewed under the league’s personal conduct policy we do not have an estimated timetable,’’ Aiello said in an e-mail Friday. “It is a legal matter and we will follow developments.’’
Decatur defense attorney Billy C. Burney told the Associated Press McClain did not fire a gun and gave the following statement: “Mr. McClain asserts his innocence. We are confident Mr. McClain will be cleared of all charges.’’
Jackson said he was not inclined to wait for either the NFL or the legal process before determining what was best for the Raiders.
“(I) have now gotten more information and can make a very informed decision on what I think is best for our team and I’ll do that in the next day or so,’’ Jackson said. “Obviously, there’s a situation that happened and I’ve had an opportunity to digest it all. The important thing is we focus on this game.
“I have 52 other players that are doing things the right way and doing things as I see they should be doing it and we’re getting ready to play a game. I will deal with Rolando when that time comes.’’
McClain was officially ruled as “questionable.’’ If McClain doesn’t play, Darryl Blackstock is next on the depth chart and would get playing time but defensive coordinator Chuck Bresnahan said there are other options in terms of aligments and packages if McClain doesn’t play.
Jackson said he is confident McClain’s issues will not be a distraction, and Raiders players echoed that sentiment.
“You can’t be affected by that,’’ quarterback Carson Palmer said. “You need to have your thoughts and prayers with he and his family at a tough time, but this team is 100 percent focused on the Miami Dolphins right now.’’
Said Raiders safety Tyvon Branch:
“We’ve got one game at the end of the week and that’s our focus for the week,’’ Branch said. “Whatever happens during that week, we have to channel that stuff out and take care of business on Sundays.’’
Although the accuser was not named by police, he was identified and quoted by the television station WAFF and the Decatur Daily news as Rishard Tapscott, 23.
McClain and Jerradius Willingham, who was charged with assault and released on a $500 bond, were high school basketball teammates Tapscott at Decatur High School.
In an interview with WAFF, Tapscott explained his side of the story.
“I went over there, it was basically like an ambush, like they set me up to fight, because as soon as I got there they all went outside and I was sitting in the house,’’ Tapscott said. “That’s when they came back in the house and they were like, `You’re going to have to fight, come back out and fight.’ I was like, `I ain’t fighting. I ain’t coming outside,’ and that’s when he came back in the house and assaulted me.’’
According to the police statement, Willingham initially fought with Tapscott, who then crawled to his car. It was at that point McClain allegedly put a gun to his head, with Tapscott begging for him not to shoot.
(Tapscott was referred to as the victim in the report, not by name).
It was then that McClain allegedly put a gun to his head, then pulled away and fired.
Jackson said he was disappointed McClain put himself in a bad situation.
“We’re not going to let one thing bring down what we’re accomplishing, by no stretch of the imagination,’’ Jackson said. “Am I disappointed? Yes, just like anything. You get disappointed in your kids. All these guys are like my sons. And when they make mistakes, there’s consequences and things you have to deal with.’’
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McClain not on field as practice begins
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Friday, December 2nd, 2011 at 10:44 am in Oakland Raiders.
Middle linebacker Rolando McClain was not on the field as warm-ups and drills concluded Friday morning and it’s not known whether he’ll make the trip to Miami after being arrested on four misdemeanor counts which included the firing of a weapon.
A Raiders official said he didn’t know whether McClain, who has missed practice time of late with an injured ankle, was at the team facility.
Raiders coach Hue Jackson will address the media following practice before the team boards a team charter to Miami for Sunday’s game against the Dolphins.
NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said the NFL will follow the legal process before making any determination on discipline for McClain.
“It will be reviewed under the league’s personal conduct policy we do not have an estimated timetable,’’ Aiello said in an e-mail Friday. “It is a legal matter and we will follow developments.’’
McClain was charged with third degree assault, reckless endangerment, menacing and discharging of a firearm within the city limits after an incident Wednesday night in his hometown of Decatur, Ala.
Jackson said McClain was excused from the team to attend the funeral of his grandfather.
Decatur defense attorney Billy C. Burney told the Associated Press McClain did not fire a gun and gave the following statement: “Mr. McClain asserts his innocence. We are confident Mr. McClain will be cleared of all charges.
Although the accuser was not named by police, he was identified and quoted by the television station WAFF and the Decatur Daily news as Rishard Tapscott, 23.
McClain and Jerradius Willingham, who was charged with assault and released on a $500 bond, were high school basketball teammates Tapscott at Decatur High School.
In an interview with WAFF, Tapscott explained his side of the story.
“I went over there, it was basically like an ambush, like they set me up to fight, because as soon as I got there they all went outside and I was sitting in the house,’’ Tapscott said. “That’s when they came back in the house and they were like, `You’re going to have to fight, come back out and fight.’ I was like, `I ain’t fighting. I ain’t coming outside,’ and that’s when he came back in the house and assaulted me.’’
There was no change in the status of the Raiders’ prominent injured players other than Richard Seymour was on the field and suited up, making it likely he will resume his role as a nickel interior pass rusher against Miami.
Running back Darren McFadden and wide receivers Denarius Moore and Jacoby Ford, all with foot or ankle issues, have not practiced all week and almost certainly will not play.
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Friday, December 2nd, 2011 at 10:44 am in Oakland Raiders.
Middle linebacker Rolando McClain was not on the field as warm-ups and drills concluded Friday morning and it’s not known whether he’ll make the trip to Miami after being arrested on four misdemeanor counts which included the firing of a weapon.
A Raiders official said he didn’t know whether McClain, who has missed practice time of late with an injured ankle, was at the team facility.
Raiders coach Hue Jackson will address the media following practice before the team boards a team charter to Miami for Sunday’s game against the Dolphins.
NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said the NFL will follow the legal process before making any determination on discipline for McClain.
“It will be reviewed under the league’s personal conduct policy we do not have an estimated timetable,’’ Aiello said in an e-mail Friday. “It is a legal matter and we will follow developments.’’
McClain was charged with third degree assault, reckless endangerment, menacing and discharging of a firearm within the city limits after an incident Wednesday night in his hometown of Decatur, Ala.
Jackson said McClain was excused from the team to attend the funeral of his grandfather.
Decatur defense attorney Billy C. Burney told the Associated Press McClain did not fire a gun and gave the following statement: “Mr. McClain asserts his innocence. We are confident Mr. McClain will be cleared of all charges.
Although the accuser was not named by police, he was identified and quoted by the television station WAFF and the Decatur Daily news as Rishard Tapscott, 23.
McClain and Jerradius Willingham, who was charged with assault and released on a $500 bond, were high school basketball teammates Tapscott at Decatur High School.
In an interview with WAFF, Tapscott explained his side of the story.
“I went over there, it was basically like an ambush, like they set me up to fight, because as soon as I got there they all went outside and I was sitting in the house,’’ Tapscott said. “That’s when they came back in the house and they were like, `You’re going to have to fight, come back out and fight.’ I was like, `I ain’t fighting. I ain’t coming outside,’ and that’s when he came back in the house and assaulted me.’’
There was no change in the status of the Raiders’ prominent injured players other than Richard Seymour was on the field and suited up, making it likely he will resume his role as a nickel interior pass rusher against Miami.
Running back Darren McFadden and wide receivers Denarius Moore and Jacoby Ford, all with foot or ankle issues, have not practiced all week and almost certainly will not play.
sharptongued1
Footballguy
Maybe his grandfather had a secret gay midget lover and an argument broke out as to how to properly handle the situation.'Tackling Dummies said:
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Rolando McClain Speaks With Hue Jackson, Joins Oakland Raiders At Practice
Dec0311:37a
by David FucilloREAD MORE: rolando mcclain arrest, Darryl Blackstock (LB - OAK), Aaron Curry (LB - OAK),Rolando McClain (LB - OAK), Oakland Raiders
The Oakland Raiders conducted a walkthrough practice on Saturday for Sunday's game against the Miami Dolphins and middle linebacker Rolando McClain was on hand for the walkthrough. McClain was arrested on Thursday after allegedly firing a gun on Wednesday night in an altercation with a former childhood friend in Alabama. McClain has denied the charges.
McClain was released on bail Thursday afternoon and questions immediately arose as to his status for Sunday's game against the Dolphins. Hue Jackson spoke to the media on Friday and simply said that he would need to speak with McClain in person before he could make any decision as to his status for Sunday and moving forward.
Hue Jackson told CSNCalifornia.com that he spoke with McClain but would not reveal his status for Sunday. Jackson told the media:
"We'll see," Jackson told CSNCalifornia.com at the team hotel. "I feel very comfortable that we're getting down to the issues with him. This is something he has to learn from, we all have to learn from.
"I will make the best decision for the organization and the football team."
More than likely any decision will not be known until game-day inactives are announced. If McClain is not active, his primary backup is Darryl Blackstock. While Blackstock is the backup middle linebacker, there is some talk that Aaron Curry could potentially move back inside.For further discussion on Rolando McClain, head over to Silver & Black Pride.
Dec0311:37a
by David FucilloREAD MORE: rolando mcclain arrest, Darryl Blackstock (LB - OAK), Aaron Curry (LB - OAK),Rolando McClain (LB - OAK), Oakland Raiders
The Oakland Raiders conducted a walkthrough practice on Saturday for Sunday's game against the Miami Dolphins and middle linebacker Rolando McClain was on hand for the walkthrough. McClain was arrested on Thursday after allegedly firing a gun on Wednesday night in an altercation with a former childhood friend in Alabama. McClain has denied the charges.
McClain was released on bail Thursday afternoon and questions immediately arose as to his status for Sunday's game against the Dolphins. Hue Jackson spoke to the media on Friday and simply said that he would need to speak with McClain in person before he could make any decision as to his status for Sunday and moving forward.
Hue Jackson told CSNCalifornia.com that he spoke with McClain but would not reveal his status for Sunday. Jackson told the media:
"We'll see," Jackson told CSNCalifornia.com at the team hotel. "I feel very comfortable that we're getting down to the issues with him. This is something he has to learn from, we all have to learn from.
"I will make the best decision for the organization and the football team."
More than likely any decision will not be known until game-day inactives are announced. If McClain is not active, his primary backup is Darryl Blackstock. While Blackstock is the backup middle linebacker, there is some talk that Aaron Curry could potentially move back inside.For further discussion on Rolando McClain, head over to Silver & Black Pride.
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The Raiders' McClain decision: Hue Jackson as judge, jury and image-shaper
POSTED BY TIM KAWAKAMI ON DECEMBER 3RD, 2011 AT 2:26 PM | CATEGORIZED AS NFL, RAIDERS
What does Hue Jackson do now?
He inherited this Raiders responsibility, he's been man enough to accept it full-tilt, he's never blinked, and now he has to figure out what to do about Rolando McClain, specifically in tomorrow's game against the Dolphins.
In Miami, Jackson told Comcast's Paul Gutierrez today that he'd met with McClain today and still hasn't decided whether to let the MLB play only days after McClain was arrested and charged with a series of misdemeanor counts stepping from an incident at his hometown Decatur, Ala.
<br style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">Let's toss out the usual generalities about the Raiders having to get to the bottom of the story and weigh the merits of what McClain is telling them.
There is no way the Raiders can investigate and know anything for sure about this incident, allegedly involving a fired gun, and certainly not in time for a decision by gametime tomorrow.
What the Raiders can and should know: Is McClain a solid person or not? Simple. Important.
What Jackson has to do, right now, is make a gut decision: Would playing McClain present the Raiders with more problems in the near future?
Basically, is McClain a bad guy who got caught this time doing the type of thing he's probably done in the past and might do again in the future?
Or is McClain essentially a solid citizen who got himself into a bad situation and–whether strictly guilty or innocent–has learned from it?
If McClain is a bad guy, then it doesn't matter how much he'd help the effort tomorrow, he should be deactivated for embarrassing the team with actions that may illustrate who he really is.
If McClain is usually a good guy, then there is some gray area here for Jackson, who, again, cannot really know what happened in Decatur and won't know where this case will lead.
It's about McClain, as a person, and Jackson's evaluation of him.
That's not about the facts of the case, it's about McClain, straight up, as a person and a member of the Raiders franchise into the future.
It is not an easy choice for Jackson. Nobody's saying it's easy.
Jackson has very publicly stated that he will hold players accountable for off-the-field misdeeds that put the team in an unfavorable light.
But pointedly, the Raiders could use a victory tomorrow, and their chances of doing so are lessened if McClain is not out there chasing down ballcarriers.
McClain hasn't been a great LB in his two seasons with the Raiders, but he's an effective run-stuffer on a team that doesn't have too many of those guys.
And it's a pretty safe guess that Al Davis would've let this incident slide, just to make sure he had McClain in the line-up tomorrow.
This one's up to Jackson. It's not about the Raiders' rebel image or knowing all the details of the Decatur incident. It's about their feel for McClain, and Jackson's ability to be a wise judge and jury.
I think Jackson will let McClain play, presuming McClain has sounded a remorseful tone behind closed doors.
I know, his arrest picture sure doesn't give a feeling of remorse, but that's just a picture–I would hope McClain has wiped that smile off his face semi-permanently while in Miami with his teammates.
I do not know McClain. Worse details might emerge from this investigation, and McClain might end up getting suspended for multiple games or worse. He might go to jail.
But my gut feel is that, judging by what we know at this moment–and that is what Jackson has to go by–McClain will be cleared to play tomorrow. I'm OK with that, if Jackson trusts him and if the trustworthiness has been earned.
POSTED BY TIM KAWAKAMI ON DECEMBER 3RD, 2011 AT 2:26 PM | CATEGORIZED AS NFL, RAIDERS
What does Hue Jackson do now?
He inherited this Raiders responsibility, he's been man enough to accept it full-tilt, he's never blinked, and now he has to figure out what to do about Rolando McClain, specifically in tomorrow's game against the Dolphins.
In Miami, Jackson told Comcast's Paul Gutierrez today that he'd met with McClain today and still hasn't decided whether to let the MLB play only days after McClain was arrested and charged with a series of misdemeanor counts stepping from an incident at his hometown Decatur, Ala.
<br style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">Let's toss out the usual generalities about the Raiders having to get to the bottom of the story and weigh the merits of what McClain is telling them.
There is no way the Raiders can investigate and know anything for sure about this incident, allegedly involving a fired gun, and certainly not in time for a decision by gametime tomorrow.
What the Raiders can and should know: Is McClain a solid person or not? Simple. Important.
What Jackson has to do, right now, is make a gut decision: Would playing McClain present the Raiders with more problems in the near future?
Basically, is McClain a bad guy who got caught this time doing the type of thing he's probably done in the past and might do again in the future?
Or is McClain essentially a solid citizen who got himself into a bad situation and–whether strictly guilty or innocent–has learned from it?
If McClain is a bad guy, then it doesn't matter how much he'd help the effort tomorrow, he should be deactivated for embarrassing the team with actions that may illustrate who he really is.
If McClain is usually a good guy, then there is some gray area here for Jackson, who, again, cannot really know what happened in Decatur and won't know where this case will lead.
It's about McClain, as a person, and Jackson's evaluation of him.
That's not about the facts of the case, it's about McClain, straight up, as a person and a member of the Raiders franchise into the future.
It is not an easy choice for Jackson. Nobody's saying it's easy.
Jackson has very publicly stated that he will hold players accountable for off-the-field misdeeds that put the team in an unfavorable light.
But pointedly, the Raiders could use a victory tomorrow, and their chances of doing so are lessened if McClain is not out there chasing down ballcarriers.
McClain hasn't been a great LB in his two seasons with the Raiders, but he's an effective run-stuffer on a team that doesn't have too many of those guys.
And it's a pretty safe guess that Al Davis would've let this incident slide, just to make sure he had McClain in the line-up tomorrow.
This one's up to Jackson. It's not about the Raiders' rebel image or knowing all the details of the Decatur incident. It's about their feel for McClain, and Jackson's ability to be a wise judge and jury.
I think Jackson will let McClain play, presuming McClain has sounded a remorseful tone behind closed doors.
I know, his arrest picture sure doesn't give a feeling of remorse, but that's just a picture–I would hope McClain has wiped that smile off his face semi-permanently while in Miami with his teammates.
I do not know McClain. Worse details might emerge from this investigation, and McClain might end up getting suspended for multiple games or worse. He might go to jail.
But my gut feel is that, judging by what we know at this moment–and that is what Jackson has to go by–McClain will be cleared to play tomorrow. I'm OK with that, if Jackson trusts him and if the trustworthiness has been earned.
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
and people got mad at Suh's post game press conference...can't wait to see people flip out on this...
ETA: "i've been advised not to say anything". But instead why not ignore that advice and 'keep it real'. Paging Dave Chapelle...
ETA:
"i've been advised not to say anything". But instead why not ignore that advice and 'keep it real'. Paging Dave Chapelle...
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Report: Former top-10 pick Rolando McClain planning NFL comeback
By John Breech | CBSSports.com
March 10, 2014 9:35 pm ET
By John Breech | CBSSports.com
March 10, 2014 9:35 pm ET
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MVP
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
nah, he was ranked in the top 10 that yr (right?). If Raiders didn't take him then someone would of shortly afterwards.
did he get paid for today's "workout"
Tackling Dummies
Footballguy
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
fatness
Footballguy
I'm not clear on the sequence here, relative to the post above this one.
http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/ravens-insider/bal-ravens-place-rolando-mcclain-on-reserveretired-list-again-20140422,0,2461822.story
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SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
The Ravens actually turned a 7th into a 6th with the Cowboys.
And threw in McClain.
And threw in McClain.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
josefrees
Footballguy
I am really hoping he has his life together. Being drafted by the Raiders can be quite traumatic.
PS. http://i.imgur.com/PFOXzpK.jpg
PS. http://i.imgur.com/PFOXzpK.jpg
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Someone made a comment that he played very well vs TEN, any truth to that?
LittlePhatty
Footballguy
Seems like he's found Jesus. Or whatever the football equivalent of Jesus is.
bill bates hits hard
Footballguy
God yeah. Looked like the 1st rounder he was drafted as.
