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25 player dynasty leagueTeam A trades Plaxico Burress and Kenny Watson to Team B for William Green and Marcus Robinson. A few owners have complained about it. Should I veto it?
Exactly my thoughts. One of the guys is new this year, so we're thinking this is an obvious case of collusion. I'm pretty set on vetoing it...all of you who are saying not to, convince me why I shouldn't!Team B is definitely using his own valuation system because most would agree he's getting taken to the cleaners. However, unless it's collusion I would not veto. Do the other owners suspect collusion or stupidity?
I'm pretty set on vetoing it
Since this is a FBG's forum, I'll use FBG overall rankings:William Green = #24Exactly my thoughts. One of the guys is new this year, so we're thinking this is an obvious case of collusion. I'm pretty set on vetoing it...all of you who are saying not to, convince me why I shouldn't!
Did you mean, one of the guys is new so this is an obvious case of the guy not making the best deal he could have?If not, why is it that his being new makes it obvious that he and the other owner are cheating? And if so, why are you vetoing the trade but not talking about throwing them out of your league?Exactly my thoughts. One of the guys is new this year, so we're thinking this is an obvious case of collusion. I'm pretty set on vetoing it...all of you who are saying not to, convince me why I shouldn't!
How can a trade of two fairly evenly valued players (and two useless throw-ins) be "obvious" collusion? Maybe its a dumb trade, but its not the type of trade that seriously changes the balance of power in your league. If I was going to collude, I'd be smart enough to rip the other guy off. Real collusion would be something more along the lines of Watson and M-Rob for Plax and Green.You said one guy was new this year, but that doesn't mean he's cheating. I actually think that makes it less likely. When a new owner takes over a dynasty team, its usually going to be littered with players he doesn't like. Maybe he inherited William Green on his team, hates him and thinks he sucks, and wanted to get rid of him ASAP. (I dunno if its even the new guy that is dealing Green, but its just a thought).One of the guys is new this year, so we're thinking this is an obvious case of collusion. I'm pretty set on vetoing it...all of you who are saying not to, convince me why I shouldn't!
Ummmm...I'm not sure what you are talking about a veto system. Basically a few owners have complained so I'm not gonna allow this trade.Another example of why the veto system should be thrown out, and replaced with a system allowing non-trading teams to make counter-offers that the trading teams can switch to instead.
Well, there goes your short career as a commish.Ummmm...I'm not sure what you are talking about a veto system. Basically a few owners have complained so I'm not gonna allow this trade.
This is a $500/person league so the stakes are high. I can't just throw someone out who has paid $500, especially on a 'hunch' that he is colluding. I just think that the only fair thing to do is to veto the trade so that no harm is done.Did you mean, one of the guys is new so this is an obvious case of the guy not making the best deal he could have?If not, why is it that his being new makes it obvious that he and the other owner are cheating? And if so, why are you vetoing the trade but not talking about throwing them out of your league?
Gotta be fishin here .. and mighty sucessfully I might addUmmmm...I'm not sure what you are talking about a veto system. Basically a few owners have complained so I'm not gonna allow this trade.
the worst commishes are the ones that are easily swayed by the opinions of a few owners. be a man and tell them the trade stands. otherwise, they will continue to try and manipulate you into doing whatever they want you to do.you're supposed to be unbiased and fair...and vetoing this trade is a very, very bad decision, IMO unless you have more information that you're not sharing with us.Ummmm...I'm not sure what you are talking about a veto system. Basically a few owners have complained so I'm not gonna allow this trade.
Probably. Hard to imagine a vertebrate being so spineless.Gotta be fishin here .. and mighty sucessfully I might add
i apologize. i was in orange county for a wedding so i've been gone all weekend.ushes big red button:where's Sandbagger when we need him?
This post was a waste of time. I can't believe anybody would consider vetoing that trade.
Good lord! If I paid $500 to play in a league, I'd want to be allowed to run my own team.If it were me, and that trade got shot down, I'd demand a refund. I suspect the involved parties may do the same.The overwhelming majority has told you to allow the trade. Trust us, we know what we're talking about.This is a $500/person league so the stakes are high. I can't just throw someone out who has paid $500, especially on a 'hunch' that he is colluding. I just think that the only fair thing to do is to veto the trade so that no harm is done.
Ok, I don't really feel like listing all 25 players, but here are the starters and key backups for each team before the trade:start 1 qb, 2 rb, 3 wr, 1 te, 1 k, 1 dteam 1QB:FavreRB:Fred Taylor, Antowain Smith, Michael BennettWRlaxico Burress, Joe Horn, Rod Gardner, Jerry Rice, Koren Robinsonteam 2QB:CulpepperRB:William Green, Shaun Alexander, Tiki Barber, Kevan BarlowWR:Randy Moss, Darrell Jackson, Josh Reed, Marc Boerighter, Johnny MortonIf you're even considering vetoing this trade, you should step down as commish. It's an absolute travesty. Perhaps you're joking??? If you're serious, post the rosters of Team A and Team B, as well as the starting lineup requirements.
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:You = worst commish ever.
holy #### i can't believe that. i wouldn't worry about ANY off the wall trades in that league, because those owners would have to be total idiots, i'm talking real morons, to atty up 500 bucks to you, and have you as a commish. where do you find people that dumb, with that much cash to spare?This is a $500/person league so the stakes are high. I can't just throw someone out who has paid $500, especially on a 'hunch' that he is colluding. I just think that the only fair thing to do is to veto the trade so that no harm is done.
so...your FIRST stint as a Commissioner is running a $500 per team league?You'd better hope that nobody has your address......chances are they'll NEVER find your body....at least if you vetoed THAT trade in my league..It's your funeral.This is a $500/person league so the stakes are high. I can't just throw someone out who has paid $500, especially on a 'hunch' that he is colluding. I just think that the only fair thing to do is to veto the trade so that no harm is done.Did you mean, one of the guys is new so this is an obvious case of the guy not making the best deal he could have?If not, why is it that his being new makes it obvious that he and the other owner are cheating? And if so, why are you vetoing the trade but not talking about throwing them out of your league?
Good Lord, if I paid $500 to play in a league, I'd want a better commish!Good lord! If I paid $500 to play in a league, I'd want to be allowed to run my own team.
If it were me, and that trade got shot down, I'd demand a refund. I suspect the involved parties may do the same.
The overwhelming majority has told you to allow the trade. Trust us, we know what we're talking about.
Hey, its my first year as commish so I'm asking for some help. Sorry, not everyone is as perfect as you.the bunny princess as a commissioner. :rotflmao: if you have to ask others how to run your own league, then it's time to step down now.
ahh...now things can get back to normal around herei apologize. i was in orange county for a wedding so i've been gone all weekend.ushes big red button:where's Sandbagger when we need him?
This post was a waste of time. I can't believe anybody would consider vetoing that trade.
WARNING
this thread has triggered the sandbagger anti-collusion thread response ©.
as always, this is not a collusive trade.
we now take you back to your regularly scheduled shark pool postings.
you need to look at each team's surrounding cast.for example...if team A is stacked at WR, but very weak at RB.....and team B is stacked at RB, but very weak at WR, then I think its a fair trade.let's be realistic here...watson and robinson are fluff. it really comes down to burress for william green.the guy who's taking slick willie is taking a chance too here. burress has already put up back-back 1,000 yard seasons, while green only started coming on the 2nd half of last year. he's not a #1 RB right now whereas burress is listed almost everwhere as a #1 WR. to each his own.again, need to know more about the team makeups of each party i think.25 player dynasty leagueTeam A trades Plaxico Burress and Kenny Watson to Team B for William Green and Marcus Robinson. A few owners have complained about it. Should I veto it?
Okay, so if you're asking for help, why are you ignoring the 100% majority of opinions that say let it go?Hey, its my first year as commish so I'm asking for some help. Sorry, not everyone is as perfect as you.
LOL... I was trying to help, but I'm not going to waste my time anymore. This is obviously a fishing trip.The trade CLEARLY services the needs of both teams. I might even go as far as to say its a perfect example of a mutually beneficial deal.Ok, I don't really feel like listing all 25 players, but here are the starters and key backups for each team before the trade:start 1 qb, 2 rb, 3 wr, 1 te, 1 k, 1 dteam 1QB:FavreRB:Fred Taylor, Antowain Smith, Michael BennettWRlaxico Burress, Joe Horn, Rod Gardner, Jerry Rice, Koren Robinsonteam 2QB:CulpepperRB:William Green, Shaun Alexander, Tiki Barber, Kevan BarlowWR:Randy Moss, Darrell Jackson, Josh Reed, Marc Boerighter, Johnny Morton