Steven Jackson's value (1 Viewer)

[EVHallofFamer]

In his new situation, where do you guys see the value of SJax? Obviously everyone knows his age but his situation is nice. In terms of draft picks, wrs, and/or prospects, what do you see his value as?

 

[amicsta]

Low end #1, high end #2 RB imo. In terms of picks, etc. that probably would vary league to league.

 

[Nucker101]

Some good posts in this thread: My link

 

[Pastor]

In a 12 team dynasty .5 ppr this trade went down after he went to Atlanta. Jackson and a 14 3rd rounder for Demarco Murray and the #10 this year. The team that traded for Jackson is definately in a win now mode and was 2nd last year.

 

[beef]

In a 12 team dynasty .5 ppr this trade went down after he went to Atlanta. Jackson and a 14 3rd rounder for Demarco Murray and the #10 this year. The team that traded for Jackson is definately in a win now mode and was 2nd last year.

Murray and 1.10 for Jackson and 2014 3rd? Wow thats a lot.

 

[Pots]

Some good posts in this thread: My link

Big thread already on this.

 

[EVHallofFamer]

Some good posts in this thread: My link

Thanks for the link. I've seen it. Was more interested in dynasty value.

 

[EVHallofFamer]

In a 12 team dynasty .5 ppr this trade went down after he went to Atlanta. Jackson and a 14 3rd rounder for Demarco Murray and the #10 this year. The team that traded for Jackson is definately in a win now mode and was 2nd last year.

Murray and 1.10 for Jackson and 2014 3rd? Wow thats a lot.

Wow. That is a ton. Kinda surprised by that one

 

[ghostguy123]

In a 12 team dynasty .5 ppr this trade went down after he went to Atlanta. Jackson and a 14 3rd rounder for Demarco Murray and the #10 this year. The team that traded for Jackson is definately in a win now mode and was 2nd last year.

Murray and 1.10 for Jackson and 2014 3rd? Wow thats a lot.

Wow. That is a ton. Kinda surprised by that one

Pick 10 on the wrong side. Even then I prolly dont deal Murray for Jackson and pick 10

 

[Shawnky]

In a 12 team dynasty .5 ppr this trade went down after he went to Atlanta. Jackson and a 14 3rd rounder for Demarco Murray and the #10 this year. The team that traded for Jackson is definately in a win now mode and was 2nd last year.

Murray and 1.10 for Jackson and 2014 3rd? Wow thats a lot.

Wow. That is a ton. Kinda surprised by that one

Pick 10 on the wrong side. Even then I prolly dont deal Murray for Jackson and pick 10

 

[Gawain]

In a 12 team dynasty .5 ppr this trade went down after he went to Atlanta. Jackson and a 14 3rd rounder for Demarco Murray and the #10 this year. The team that traded for Jackson is definately in a win now mode and was 2nd last year.

Murray and 1.10 for Jackson and 2014 3rd? Wow thats a lot.

Wow. That is a ton. Kinda surprised by that one

Pick 10 on the wrong side. Even then I prolly dont deal Murray for Jackson and pick 10

If Murray stays healthy, he could give you three seasons equal to the one you are likely to get from Jackson in 2013.

 

[ghostguy123]

In a 12 team dynasty .5 ppr this trade went down after he went to Atlanta. Jackson and a 14 3rd rounder for Demarco Murray and the #10 this year. The team that traded for Jackson is definately in a win now mode and was 2nd last year.

Murray and 1.10 for Jackson and 2014 3rd? Wow thats a lot.

Wow. That is a ton. Kinda surprised by that one

Pick 10 on the wrong side. Even then I prolly dont deal Murray for Jackson and pick 10

If Murray stays healthy, he could give you three seasons equal to the one you are likely to get from Jackson in 2013.

I have Murray in a couple leagues. If I am offered jackson and pick 10, I am rejecting pretty easily.

 

[pizzatyme]

I'd say he's as valuable as a used Honda with 175,000 miles on it.

 

[Rolling_akg]

I'd say he's as valuable as a used Honda with 175,000 miles on it.

So he's used up 2/3 of his mileage?

 

[ghostguy123]

I'd say he's as valuable as a used Honda with 175,000 miles on it.

So you think he is undervalued??In two redraft total points optimal lineup leagues I am doing, he went pick 14 in the first one and pick 11 in the 2nd one.

 

[LBH]

I gave 1.08,3.06 for him in one league. I offered RMathews in another league for a straight trade and was rejected

 

[ghostguy123]

I gave 1.08,3.06 for him in one league. I offered RMathews in another league for a straight trade and was rejected

I offered pick 3 and was rejected instantly.

 

[Shawnky]

In a 12 team dynasty .5 ppr this trade went down after he went to Atlanta. Jackson and a 14 3rd rounder for Demarco Murray and the #10 this year. The team that traded for Jackson is definately in a win now mode and was 2nd last year.

Murray and 1.10 for Jackson and 2014 3rd? Wow thats a lot.

Wow. That is a ton. Kinda surprised by that one

Pick 10 on the wrong side. Even then I prolly dont deal Murray for Jackson and pick 10

If Murray stays healthy, he could give you three seasons equal to the one you are likely to get from Jackson in 2013.

I have Murray in a couple leagues. If I am offered jackson and pick 10, I am rejecting pretty easily.

And there's a reason why you don't win titles.

 

[ghostguy123]

In a 12 team dynasty .5 ppr this trade went down after he went to Atlanta. Jackson and a 14 3rd rounder for Demarco Murray and the #10 this year. The team that traded for Jackson is definately in a win now mode and was 2nd last year.

Murray and 1.10 for Jackson and 2014 3rd? Wow thats a lot.

Wow. That is a ton. Kinda surprised by that one

Pick 10 on the wrong side. Even then I prolly dont deal Murray for Jackson and pick 10

If Murray stays healthy, he could give you three seasons equal to the one you are likely to get from Jackson in 2013.

I have Murray in a couple leagues. If I am offered jackson and pick 10, I am rejecting pretty easily.

And there's a reason why you don't win titles.

You might be on to something. Five dynasty leagues and I finished 2nd in three of them, bounced out 1st round in a shocker in one, and the other one was year 1 of the league where I didn't try to compete year 1, picking up all youth and a ton of picks (team looks good now though).Maybe if I trade for Jackson in all of them I will win them all. I did deal for him in one league, gave Bryce Brown and a 2014 1st.But no, unless I know I am quitting the league after this year, I am not dealing Murray for Jackson and pick 10.

 

[FF Ninja]

I have Murray in a couple leagues. If I am offered jackson and pick 10, I am rejecting pretty easily.

Are we talking about DeMarco Murray? The guy who barely cracks 4 ypc, is allergic to the end zone, and can't stay on the field?

 

[ghostguy123]

I have Murray in a couple leagues. If I am offered jackson and pick 10, I am rejecting pretty easily.

Are we talking about DeMarco Murray? The guy who barely cracks 4 ypc, is allergic to the end zone, and can't stay on the field?

Yep, same fella. I don't value pick 10 very much this year, and I actually think Murray is a pretty good player. He obviously needs to stay healthy, and I am willing to take that chance that he does. I like both players, but I like Murray in dynasty enough more to not take that deal. Redraft, yes I take jackson for this season

 

[Christo]

I have Murray in a couple leagues. If I am offered jackson and pick 10, I am rejecting pretty easily.

Are we talking about DeMarco Murray? The guy who barely cracks 4 ypc, is allergic to the end zone, and can't stay on the field?

I wouldn't call 4.8 YPC "barely" cracking 4. The only year Steven Jackson broke 4.4 was his rookie year when he was backing up Faulk and only had 134 carries. And Jackson had back to back years where he only played in 12 games. Injuries happen. Players bounce back. The truth of the matter is Murray could easily out-perform Jackson this year and he's 5 years younger. Giving up Murray for Jackson in dynasty is foolish even with pick 1.10 thrown in.

 

[Wyld Stallyns]

DeMarco Murray won't be the Cowboys starting RB in 2014. Of that I am almost certain.

 

[unckeyherb]

I posted a long rambling comparison of SJax production on sub-par Rams teams to Turner's production in Atlanta in the link referenced above. The resulting projection is that SJax finishes with 290+ FFpoints in PPR leagues; roughly top 5-7 RB numbers.

 

[Shutout]

I have Murray in a couple leagues. If I am offered jackson and pick 10, I am rejecting pretty easily.

Are we talking about DeMarco Murray? The guy who barely cracks 4 ypc, is allergic to the end zone, and can't stay on the field?

I wouldn't call 4.8 YPC "barely" cracking 4. The only year Steven Jackson broke 4.4 was his rookie year when he was backing up Faulk and only had 134 carries. And Jackson had back to back years where he only played in 12 games. Injuries happen. Players bounce back. The truth of the matter is Murray could easily out-perform Jackson this year and he's 5 years younger. Giving up Murray for Jackson in dynasty is foolish even with pick 1.10 thrown in.

I must be in Bizarro world. To make sure I've got this straight, I have DeMarco Murray and 1.10 this year and someone offers me SJAX?I'm taking it without blinking. I've never been one of those people that gushed over SJAX. I thought until the last two years he was consistently overdrafted. However, at this point in time and for dynasty purposes, I will gladly take whatever SJAX has left with the Falcons over a rookie pick in a draft full of ??? and a RB that hasn't been able to stay healthy. I would be shocked if Dallas doen't draft a RB this year which means if you are a Murray owner, get ready to do some homework on whether you need to go get him to go with Murray...let me do the homework for you...YOU NEED HIS HANDCUFF. A FF team should either have ALL or NONE of the Cowboys' RBs because, while they all are valuable in spurts, none are durable to last the season. The only way I balk at that trade offer is if I am CLEARLY in a total youth movement/rebuild mode.

 

[FF Ninja]

I have Murray in a couple leagues. If I am offered jackson and pick 10, I am rejecting pretty easily.

Are we talking about DeMarco Murray? The guy who barely cracks 4 ypc, is allergic to the end zone, and can't stay on the field?

I wouldn't call 4.8 YPC "barely" cracking 4. The only year Steven Jackson broke 4.4 was his rookie year when he was backing up Faulk and only had 134 carries. And Jackson had back to back years where he only played in 12 games. Injuries happen. Players bounce back. The truth of the matter is Murray could easily out-perform Jackson this year and he's 5 years younger. Giving up Murray for Jackson in dynasty is foolish even with pick 1.10 thrown in.

Still hanging onto that St.Louis game, I see. Those numbers are going to get diluted a bit more each year, but not much since he can't stay on the field. But anyway, I was only referencing his numbers from last year, where he managed 4.1 ypc. DeMarco Murray reminds me a lot of another guy, drafted in the third round, that GMs saw as a 3rd down back who blew up when forced into action his rookie year, then looked average as a runner his second year, while still doing ok in the receptions department... Steve Slaton. At least Slaton had one 16 game season and a top 10 finish. I doubt Murray accomplishes either.

 

[Sabertooth]

I think the wall is fast approaching for Jackson. I'm not really interested much.

 

[Eminence]

I'm buying. He's a year older than Adrian Peterson, "oh no".

 

[Sabertooth]

I'm buying. He's a year older than Adrian Peterson, "oh no".

It's actually closer to 2 years, but who's counting right?

 

[Pots]

Amazed this Honda is getting more action than the Original

 

[Christo]

I have Murray in a couple leagues. If I am offered jackson and pick 10, I am rejecting pretty easily.

Are we talking about DeMarco Murray? The guy who barely cracks 4 ypc, is allergic to the end zone, and can't stay on the field?

I wouldn't call 4.8 YPC "barely" cracking 4. The only year Steven Jackson broke 4.4 was his rookie year when he was backing up Faulk and only had 134 carries. And Jackson had back to back years where he only played in 12 games. Injuries happen. Players bounce back. The truth of the matter is Murray could easily out-perform Jackson this year and he's 5 years younger. Giving up Murray for Jackson in dynasty is foolish even with pick 1.10 thrown in.

Still hanging onto that St.Louis game, I see.

As far as I know they all count.

 

[Christo]

I'm buying. He's a year older than Adrian Peterson, "oh no".

It's actually closer to 2 years, but who's counting right?

Jackson has also taken 3 more years of hits than Peterson.

 

[Sabertooth]

I'm buying. He's a year older than Adrian Peterson, "oh no".

It's actually closer to 2 years, but who's counting right?

Jackson has also taken 3 more years of hits than Peterson.

I have Sjax in a league and I'm looking to move him.

 

[Andrew74]

I sold him for the following in a dynasty today.

12 team. 0.5 PPR, start 1/2/3/1

I gave: SJax, J Rodgers, 2014 1st

I get: M Ryan/1.04/2014 2nd

.

 

[ghostguy123]

I sold him for the following in a dynasty today.12 team. 0.5 PPR, start 1/2/3/1I gave: SJax, J Rodgers, 2014 1stI get: M Ryan/1.04/2014 2nd.

You win here, geeze

 

[pizzatyme]

Amazed this Honda is getting more action than the Original

thus my honda comment above. :whoosh:

 

[EVHallofFamer]

12 team ppr.

Traded sJax and 3.12 rookie pick for 1.06 and 2.06

 

[FF Ninja]

I have Murray in a couple leagues. If I am offered jackson and pick 10, I am rejecting pretty easily.

Are we talking about DeMarco Murray? The guy who barely cracks 4 ypc, is allergic to the end zone, and can't stay on the field?

I wouldn't call 4.8 YPC "barely" cracking 4. The only year Steven Jackson broke 4.4 was his rookie year when he was backing up Faulk and only had 134 carries. And Jackson had back to back years where he only played in 12 games. Injuries happen. Players bounce back. The truth of the matter is Murray could easily out-perform Jackson this year and he's 5 years younger. Giving up Murray for Jackson in dynasty is foolish even with pick 1.10 thrown in.

Still hanging onto that St.Louis game, I see.

As far as I know they all count.

Nope. That one is buried in 2011. Didn't help anyone in 2012 and surely won't help you in 2013 where his mediocrity will surely continue. Bottom line is that I'd roll the dice on getting one more year out of SJax than ride the Slaton... I mean Murray.. bandwagon into the ground.

 

[Pots]

I have Murray in a couple leagues. If I am offered jackson and pick 10, I am rejecting pretty easily.

Are we talking about DeMarco Murray? The guy who barely cracks 4 ypc, is allergic to the end zone, and can't stay on the field?

I wouldn't call 4.8 YPC "barely" cracking 4. The only year Steven Jackson broke 4.4 was his rookie year when he was backing up Faulk and only had 134 carries. And Jackson had back to back years where he only played in 12 games. Injuries happen. Players bounce back. The truth of the matter is Murray could easily out-perform Jackson this year and he's 5 years younger. Giving up Murray for Jackson in dynasty is foolish even with pick 1.10 thrown in.

Still hanging onto that St.Louis game, I see.

As far as I know they all count.

Nope. That one is buried in 2011. Didn't help anyone in 2012 and surely won't help you in 2013 where his mediocrity will surely continue. Bottom line is that I'd roll the dice on getting one more year out of SJax than ride the Slaton... I mean Murray.. bandwagon into the ground.

 

[ghostguy123]

Apparently Murray is the most polarizing player in terms of value out there today.

 

[Biabreakable]

I'm buying. He's a year older than Adrian Peterson, "oh no".

It's actually closer to 2 years, but who's counting right?

Speaking of Peterson good call on him a couple years ago about his eminent decline. I think your opinion about Steven Jackson is about equally valuable as your call on Peterson was. Good thing Peterson owners got out while they can.