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Not sure how 1000 yards in a TE’s rookie season - something that only Pitts and Ditka have done - can be considered mediocre or close to a bust. The 1 TD is bad, and the TDs still haven’t come, but TDs are variable. All that said, I do think the 1K yards obfuscates a bit that he had “only” 68 catches in his rookie year. A very strong total but we’re not talking Kelce/Andrews levels.
It was terrible in terms of his FF production. A few spike weeks made his season much better than it actually was.
| RECEIVING | RUSHING | ||||||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| WEEK | PTS | OPPONENT | OPP AVG VS TE | OPP RANK VS TE | STATUS | REC | YDS | TD | TGT | ATT | YDS | TD | FUM LOST |
| 1 | 8.1 | vs Eagles | 19.1 | 32 | Skillet Lickers - S | 4 | 31 | 8 | 0 | ||||
| 2 | 13.6 | at Buccaneers | 14.0 | 19 | Skillet Lickers - S | 5 | 73 | 6 | 0 | ||||
| 3 | 6.0 | at Giants | 13.1 | 13 | Skillet Lickers - S | 2 | 35 | 3 | 0 | ||||
| 4 | 10.0 | vs FootballTeam | 14.1 | 21 | Skillet Lickers - S | 4 | 50 | 9 | 0 | ||||
| 5 | 29.2 | vs Jets | 16.2 | 26 | Skillet Lickers - S | 9 | 119 | 1 | 10 | 0 | |||
| 6 | Bye | Skillet Lickers - NS | |||||||||||
| 7 | 25.1 | at Dolphins | 14.0 | 18 | Skillet Lickers - S | 7 | 163 | 8 | 0 | ||||
| 8 | 3.8 | vs Panthers | 12.7 | 11 | Skillet Lickers - S | 2 | 13 | 6 | 0 | ||||
| 9 | 10.0 | at Saints | 10.8 | 8 | Skillet Lickers - S | 3 | 62 | 7 | 0 | ||||
| 10 | 11.0 | at Cowboys | 14.1 | 20 | Skillet Lickers - S | 4 | 60 | 7 | 0 | ||||
| 11 | 6.7 | vs Patriots | 7.6 | 1 | Skillet Lickers - S | 3 | 29 | 5 | 0 | ||||
| 12 | 5.1 | at Jaguars | 13.2 | 14 | Skillet Lickers - S | 2 | 26 | 6 | 0 | ||||
| 13 | 9.8 | vs Buccaneers | 14.0 | 19 | Skillet Lickers - S | 4 | 48 | 7 | 0 | ||||
| 14 | 12.4 | at Panthers | 12.7 | 11 | Skillet Lickers - S | 5 | 61 | 6 | 0 | ||||
| 15 | 12.7 | at 49ers | 10.3 | 7 | Skillet Lickers - S | 4 | 77 | 7 | 0 | ||||
| 16 | 17.7 | vs Lions | 15.5 | 24 | Skillet Lickers - S | 6 | 102 | 6 | 0 | ||||
| 17 | 9.4 | at Bills | 8.7 | 3 | Skillet Lickers - S | 2 | 69 | 4 | 0 | ||||
| 18 | 3.3 | vs Saints | 10.8 | 8 | Skillet Lickers - S | 2 | 8 | 5 | 0 | ||||
| Total: | 193.9 | 68 | 1026 | 1 | 110 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
Agreed—and here’s something else to digest. Let’s look at the Falcons. If we look at their cumulative “talent” in the receiving position—Wr’s and Te’s—we’re effectively looking at London, Pitts, Johnu..etc. While there is some talent there—it’s certainly nothing near upper tier compared to the rest of the league. If we look at the cumulative talent at the RB position: Bijan, Cordarrelle, Tyler Algier—-that’s arguably one of the leagues best RB cores in regards to top to bottom talent. Even from a “talent’ perspective—the Falcons are probably more motivated to run more.
I suspect the same game script will be in play this week against the Jets, who are extremely tough versus the passing game but can be run on.
Some of that regarding QB issues and injury residual makes sense, but I think we’re too far removed from the injury to not also point to Pitts himself for his big drop off.
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He points out a decreased amount of explosion and some other thingsSome of that regarding QB issues and injury residual makes sense, but I think we’re too far removed from the injury to not also point to Pitts himself for his big drop off.Bair Mail: On Kyle Pitts, Desmond Ridder, Falcons critical mistakes, plus that 4th-and-1 play against Tampa Bay
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True - whether that’s lingering from the injury or just lack of effort is the wildcard.He points out a decreased amount of explosion and some other thingsSome of that regarding QB issues and injury residual makes sense, but I think we’re too far removed from the injury to not also point to Pitts himself for his big drop off.Bair Mail: On Kyle Pitts, Desmond Ridder, Falcons critical mistakes, plus that 4th-and-1 play against Tampa Bay
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He's saying what a lot of other people who studied Pitts have been saying, that's he's not recovered from his MCL. Been trying to tell people this, that his lack of production is far deeper then the QB and scheme but people can't get off that.Bair Mail: On Kyle Pitts, Desmond Ridder, Falcons critical mistakes, plus that 4th-and-1 play against Tampa Bay
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Well ...agree here but he has been healthy this yearHe's saying what a lot of other people who studied Pitts have been saying, that's he's not recovered from his MCL. Been trying to tell people this, that his lack of production is far deeper then the QB and scheme but people can't get off that.Bair Mail: On Kyle Pitts, Desmond Ridder, Falcons critical mistakes, plus that 4th-and-1 play against Tampa Bay
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Dealt with a hamstring issue beginning of last season and eventually the MCL. Has not really been healthy since his rookie season with the MCL being the major issue.
Great buy low right now, I'd argue the best buy low going.
I disagree as strongly as someone possibly can disagree.Well ...agree here but he has been healthy this yearHe's saying what a lot of other people who studied Pitts have been saying, that's he's not recovered from his MCL. Been trying to tell people this, that his lack of production is far deeper then the QB and scheme but people can't get off that.Bair Mail: On Kyle Pitts, Desmond Ridder, Falcons critical mistakes, plus that 4th-and-1 play against Tampa Bay
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Dealt with a hamstring issue beginning of last season and eventually the MCL. Has not really been healthy since his rookie season with the MCL being the major issue.
Great buy low right now, I'd argue the best buy low going.
Ok fair enoughI disagree as strongly as someone possibly can disagree.Well ...agree here but he has been healthy this yearHe's saying what a lot of other people who studied Pitts have been saying, that's he's not recovered from his MCL. Been trying to tell people this, that his lack of production is far deeper then the QB and scheme but people can't get off that.Bair Mail: On Kyle Pitts, Desmond Ridder, Falcons critical mistakes, plus that 4th-and-1 play against Tampa Bay
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Dealt with a hamstring issue beginning of last season and eventually the MCL. Has not really been healthy since his rookie season with the MCL being the major issue.
Great buy low right now, I'd argue the best buy low going.
Active and playing is not the same thing as healthy.
Ridder threw for 374 yards
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Same tired argument...it's always someone else's fault
This is how it should be.
London had a really good game but I thought rookie year Pitts was statistically better then anything London has shown so far, other then TD's. It's true Pitts has not looked special since, I'm trying to SCREAM to anyone who will listen he's not been healthy. That he's not been in two years is a concern, but that's the key and I think if he can be that he's the more special player of the two and London is not the assumed 1 to me. Might be, not something I'd assume.
Sure Bijan can improve but so can Pitts, again especially when healthy. Right now Pitts is averaging exactly one target a game more then Bijan and even if you take away the headache game a less then healthy Pitts is still getting more targets.
It’s certainly possible Pitts turns things around, but I suppose my point is that London and Bijan are already on the right trajectory with no reason to think they’ll slow down.
Almost every competent offense can support 2 good receiving weapons and a RB. Pitts doesn't have to "pass" these guys (not to mention it's kind of a false assumption to say he's behind them).
One of the points I'm trying to make is that even when he's not looked that impressive it's Bijan that still has to ascend over him in the target pecking order, not the other way around.
Targets:
Still have to see who takes over as HC and who is the new QB, but it’s certainly what Pitts owners have been clamoring for.
Maybe they draft Michael Penix jr.?
Do people think he just regressed/forgot how to play football after going for over 1000 yards as a 20 year-old rookie?
Exactly.
I'm sure he's still got talent, I'm just quite sure that the narrative of 'Arthur Smith is gone! Rejoice, the witch is dead, the shackles are off!' is going to push him to an unjustifiably lofty round in drafts yet again. There seem to be a lot of perfectly good options at tight end in the league now, the hopium of Pitts living up to his hype seems a bad bet.
Oh, I don’t think that’s going to happen at all. I think there’s too many folks who have been burned by him the last two years that are going to be completely out on him.
They have the 8th overall pick. Hard to believe a new regime passes on a Penix or Daniels there.
Cost is a fair point.
The season ended yesterday. EVERYTHING is conjecture. But I certainly think the Falcons will go get a better QB. Either they trade for Fields or draft someone who is an upgrade from Ridder.
This would be my first choice.
