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They are attempts to provoke an emotional response. Its how some people get their jollies.Why are people in here trying to point out flaws and whatnot of a phone they would never even buy?
They are attempts to provoke an emotional response. Its how some people get their jollies.Why are people in here trying to point out flaws and whatnot of a phone they would never even buy?
I'm in the same boat. i checked out my fiances iphone 4 today for about a half hour. the screen is fantastic and the glass back feels much higher quality than my 3GS.However, my 3GS is jailbroken and does everything better than iOS4. The apple store guy was showing me the new features of the new phone. "Hey look, you can lock the screen orientation". "you can multitask" "categories"All the while, i'm thinking. 3G unrestrictor, backgrounder, SBSettings, 5 icon dock, intelliscreen, Bite SMS, kirake all blow iOS4's features away. I wanted to buy an iphone 4 for myself. But not until the OS can be fully jailbroken. In fact, If it wasn't for the JB, I'd probably get another phone all together.The important issue to me is whether or not 4G will be jailbroken relatively soon. It's VERY hard for me to let go of my 3GS that's fully jailbroken, unlocked, and configured just like I want it, with background processes for ALL apps, SBSettings which is really nice, and more.I'm kinda worried that Apple is getting much better at plugging the holes the hackers exploit to jailbreak the phones, among other deterrents.
And backgrounder does multitasking better than the native iOS4 does. It's a step down, honestly.I'm in the same boat. i checked out my fiances iphone 4 today for about a half hour. the screen is fantastic and the glass back feels much higher quality than my 3GS.However, my 3GS is jailbroken and does everything better than iOS4. The apple store guy was showing me the new features of the new phone. "Hey look, you can lock the screen orientation". "you can multitask" "categories"All the while, i'm thinking. 3G unrestrictor, backgrounder, SBSettings, 5 icon dock, intelliscreen, Bite SMS, kirake all blow iOS4's features away. I wanted to buy an iphone 4 for myself. But not until the OS can be fully jailbroken. In fact, If it wasn't for the JB, I'd probably get another phone all together.The important issue to me is whether or not 4G will be jailbroken relatively soon. It's VERY hard for me to let go of my 3GS that's fully jailbroken, unlocked, and configured just like I want it, with background processes for ALL apps, SBSettings which is really nice, and more.I'm kinda worried that Apple is getting much better at plugging the holes the hackers exploit to jailbreak the phones, among other deterrents.
So are the jailbreaks out right now not complete? I've seen a ton of articles on how fast iOS4 was jailbroken. Do these only work on the 3gs and not 4g phone?I'm in the same boat. i checked out my fiances iphone 4 today for about a half hour. the screen is fantastic and the glass back feels much higher quality than my 3GS.However, my 3GS is jailbroken and does everything better than iOS4. The apple store guy was showing me the new features of the new phone. "Hey look, you can lock the screen orientation". "you can multitask" "categories"All the while, i'm thinking. 3G unrestrictor, backgrounder, SBSettings, 5 icon dock, intelliscreen, Bite SMS, kirake all blow iOS4's features away. I wanted to buy an iphone 4 for myself. But not until the OS can be fully jailbroken. In fact, If it wasn't for the JB, I'd probably get another phone all together.The important issue to me is whether or not 4G will be jailbroken relatively soon. It's VERY hard for me to let go of my 3GS that's fully jailbroken, unlocked, and configured just like I want it, with background processes for ALL apps, SBSettings which is really nice, and more.I'm kinda worried that Apple is getting much better at plugging the holes the hackers exploit to jailbreak the phones, among other deterrents.
The thing about it is that I don't think people realize the detail and repetition that goes in to making these devices. There are literally a hundred different hardware spots where something can go wrong and the whole thing doesn't work. And the assembly lines are maintained as well as possible, but humans are still involved which means occasionally something goes wrong.Knowing that you're involved on the component side I think it's safe to say we're all surprised that hardware issues don't happen more often.I'm involved in the component supply side of some of these devices and I'm surprised that hardware issues don't happen more often.
Here is a chart showing what jailbroken apps works with OS4So are the jailbreaks out right now not complete? I've seen a ton of articles on how fast iOS4 was jailbroken. Do these only work on the 3gs and not 4g phone?I'm in the same boat. i checked out my fiances iphone 4 today for about a half hour. the screen is fantastic and the glass back feels much higher quality than my 3GS.However, my 3GS is jailbroken and does everything better than iOS4. The apple store guy was showing me the new features of the new phone. "Hey look, you can lock the screen orientation". "you can multitask" "categories"The important issue to me is whether or not 4G will be jailbroken relatively soon. It's VERY hard for me to let go of my 3GS that's fully jailbroken, unlocked, and configured just like I want it, with background processes for ALL apps, SBSettings which is really nice, and more.
I'm kinda worried that Apple is getting much better at plugging the holes the hackers exploit to jailbreak the phones, among other deterrents.
All the while, i'm thinking. 3G unrestrictor, backgrounder, SBSettings, 5 icon dock, intelliscreen, Bite SMS, kirake all blow iOS4's features away.
I wanted to buy an iphone 4 for myself. But not until the OS can be fully jailbroken. In fact, If it wasn't for the JB, I'd probably get another phone all together.
Its exciting to some people. I am a huge gadget hound but I rarely have the extra cash laying around to "treat" myself to something new and, frankly, unnecessary. It reminds me of back in the early 90's when my friends and I would camp out to be the first to buy General Admission tickets to concerts that never even sold out. It's part of the overall experience of having the device for some people. Those people, me included, are dorks of the highest order. But still...I am really besides myself that anyone would wait in line for hours for a phone which they could just swing in and buy at a later date. Unbelievable. This kind of action is at the top of the lists of one of the biggest wastes of time that is easily avoidable.
Yes, but you can get it a couple of days from now without any wait. I guess I'm just having a hard time understanding the rationality of something so irrational. Oh well. To each his own.Its exciting to some people. I am a huge gadget hound but I rarely have the extra cash laying around to "treat" myself to something new and, frankly, unnecessary. It reminds me of back in the early 90's when my friends and I would camp out to be the first to buy General Admission tickets to concerts that never even sold out. It's part of the overall experience of having the device for some people. Those people, me included, are dorks of the highest order. But still...I am really besides myself that anyone would wait in line for hours for a phone which they could just swing in and buy at a later date. Unbelievable. This kind of action is at the top of the lists of one of the biggest wastes of time that is easily avoidable.
It could end up being a lot longer than a few days. I'm not sure that everybody who "pre-ordered" even got their phones today due to the lack of phones shipped. I'm going the Radio Shack route (for now anyway) because I want paid for my 3Gs and that might take a month to get the phone I'm told as they apparently are getting 4 phones at a time. They seem pissed.Yes, but you can get it a couple of days from now without any wait. I guess I'm just having a hard time understanding the rationality of something so irrational. Oh well. To each his own.Its exciting to some people. I am a huge gadget hound but I rarely have the extra cash laying around to "treat" myself to something new and, frankly, unnecessary. It reminds me of back in the early 90's when my friends and I would camp out to be the first to buy General Admission tickets to concerts that never even sold out. It's part of the overall experience of having the device for some people. Those people, me included, are dorks of the highest order. But still...I am really besides myself that anyone would wait in line for hours for a phone which they could just swing in and buy at a later date. Unbelievable. This kind of action is at the top of the lists of one of the biggest wastes of time that is easily avoidable.
What's insane are the people who have this phone now and won't sell it for 1kThat's insane. Why do people have to have one RIGHT NOW?I got my 32GB iPhone 4G today and I haven't opened it yet or activated it because I'm still trying to decide if I should sell it on ebay or not. Some completed listings have this version going for a bit above/below $1,000I'm curious what the iphone4 is going to go for on ebay in the coming days... the hype is crazy.
Unsubsidized cost is $700+tax. So if I sold it now, I'd basically be netting $300 minus shipping + hassle of listing on ebay + ebay fees + hassle of shipping + hassle of ordering new 4G when it comes out + opportunity cost. To me, my laziness and curiosity wins out but I admit, it's probably a dumb decision to forgo that money.What's insane are the people who have this phone now and won't sell it for 1kThat's insane. Why do people have to have one RIGHT NOW?I got my 32GB iPhone 4G today and I haven't opened it yet or activated it because I'm still trying to decide if I should sell it on ebay or not. Some completed listings have this version going for a bit above/below $1,000I'm curious what the iphone4 is going to go for on ebay in the coming days... the hype is crazy.
CraigslistUnsubsidized cost is $700+tax. So if I sold it now, I'd basically be netting $300 minus shipping + hassle of listing on ebay + ebay fees + hassle of shipping + hassle of ordering new 4G when it comes out + opportunity cost. To me, my laziness and curiosity wins out but I admit, it's probably a dumb decision to forgo that money.What's insane are the people who have this phone now and won't sell it for 1kThat's insane. Why do people have to have one RIGHT NOW?I got my 32GB iPhone 4G today and I haven't opened it yet or activated it because I'm still trying to decide if I should sell it on ebay or not. Some completed listings have this version going for a bit above/below $1,000I'm curious what the iphone4 is going to go for on ebay in the coming days... the hype is crazy.
One of my coworkers just sold his for $1,300. THIRTEEN HUNDRED. He has a 3GS and got the early upgrade. He's going to "suffer" with his 3GS for awhile longer. Using the money to buy a 64GB Ipad and a non contract iphone 4 down the road.What's insane are the people who have this phone now and won't sell it for 1kThat's insane. Why do people have to have one RIGHT NOW?I got my 32GB iPhone 4G today and I haven't opened it yet or activated it because I'm still trying to decide if I should sell it on ebay or not. Some completed listings have this version going for a bit above/below $1,000I'm curious what the iphone4 is going to go for on ebay in the coming days... the hype is crazy.
Smart. Why not put it on CL for 1500?One of my coworkers just sold his for $1,300. THIRTEEN HUNDRED. He has a 3GS and got the early upgrade. He's going to "suffer" with his 3GS for awhile longer. Using the money to buy a 64GB Ipad and a non contract iphone 4 down the road.What's insane are the people who have this phone now and won't sell it for 1kThat's insane. Why do people have to have one RIGHT NOW?I got my 32GB iPhone 4G today and I haven't opened it yet or activated it because I'm still trying to decide if I should sell it on ebay or not. Some completed listings have this version going for a bit above/below $1,000I'm curious what the iphone4 is going to go for on ebay in the coming days... the hype is crazy.
Goggins, you must be SO good at life.What's insane are the people who have this phone now and won't sell it for 1kThat's insane. Why do people have to have one RIGHT NOW?I got my 32GB iPhone 4G today and I haven't opened it yet or activated it because I'm still trying to decide if I should sell it on ebay or not. Some completed listings have this version going for a bit above/below $1,000I'm curious what the iphone4 is going to go for on ebay in the coming days... the hype is crazy.
Goggins, you must be SO good at life.What's insane are the people who have this phone now and won't sell it for 1kThat's insane. Why do people have to have one RIGHT NOW?I got my 32GB iPhone 4G today and I haven't opened it yet or activated it because I'm still trying to decide if I should sell it on ebay or not. Some completed listings have this version going for a bit above/below $1,000I'm curious what the iphone4 is going to go for on ebay in the coming days... the hype is crazy.
I'll let her know when I see her.Have a friend who is an assistant manager at Best Buy, texted him yesterday and asked about how many iphones they were getting. He said 70, but all presales. Then said that there might be a small chance they'd get extra....come at 7 when presale pickups start....buy a presale card ($50) and if they have any at 9:00 am I could get one. Showed up around 6:15....first one there......when a few cars pulled up around 6:40 I got out and was first in line.....at 7:00 there were about 10-12 in line.......5 of those were presale pickups.....I texted my friend at about 6:30 telling him I was there.....he texted back and told me that they had gotten 10 extra 16gb phones.......At 7:00 when the presale guys were let in my friend sticks his head out the door...motions me to come in.....takes me to this guy and tells him to go ahead and do a presale with me (while the others were still waiting outside). Took about 5 minutes to do that. Returned at 9:00........by 9:25 I was walking out the door with my phone.
I'm liking it so far.
I should also give props to my wife. She has been carring a 3G while I've been using a razr.....it was her upgrade and the plan was to upgrade her to the iphone 4 and then I would carry her 3G until October when I can upgrade......this morning she says, "I want you to go ahead and carry the new phone....I'm happy with my 3G......I don't mind to wait until October to get the new one." Special thanks to my lovely, giving bride!!
do you mean like grown men feverishly trying to register at a site so they could get a 3 digit member number?I am really besides myself that anyone would wait in line for hours for a phone which they could just swing in and buy at a later date. Unbelievable. This kind of action is at the top of the lists of one of the biggest wastes of time that is easily avoidable.
Or missing the deadline and then paying way over retail after the factdo you mean like grown men feverishly trying to register at a site so they could get a 3 digit member number?I am really besides myself that anyone would wait in line for hours for a phone which they could just swing in and buy at a later date. Unbelievable. This kind of action is at the top of the lists of one of the biggest wastes of time that is easily avoidable.
You mean there are grown men that this means something to? Not sure what to say to that. Maybe they should be hanging out at the high school to get in line for the next hot thing.do you mean like grown men feverishly trying to register at a site so they could get a 3 digit member number?I am really besides myself that anyone would wait in line for hours for a phone which they could just swing in and buy at a later date. Unbelievable. This kind of action is at the top of the lists of one of the biggest wastes of time that is easily avoidable.
That's patheticHave a friend who is an assistant manager at Best Buy, texted him yesterday and asked about how many iphones they were getting. He said 70, but all presales. Then said that there might be a small chance they'd get extra....come at 7 when presale pickups start....buy a presale card ($50) and if they have any at 9:00 am I could get one. Showed up around 6:15....first one there......when a few cars pulled up around 6:40 I got out and was first in line.....at 7:00 there were about 10-12 in line.......5 of those were presale pickups.....I texted my friend at about 6:30 telling him I was there.....he texted back and told me that they had gotten 10 extra 16gb phones.......At 7:00 when the presale guys were let in my friend sticks his head out the door...motions me to come in.....takes me to this guy and tells him to go ahead and do a presale with me (while the others were still waiting outside). Took about 5 minutes to do that. Returned at 9:00........by 9:25 I was walking out the door with my phone. I'm liking it so far.I should also give props to my wife. She has been carring a 3G while I've been using a razr.....it was her upgrade and the plan was to upgrade her to the iphone 4 and then I would carry her 3G until October when I can upgrade......this morning she says, "I want you to go ahead and carry the new phone....I'm happy with my 3G......I don't mind to wait until October to get the new one." Special thanks to my lovely, giving bride!!
Settings --> Mail --> SignatureHow do you turn off the obnoxious "Sent from my iPad" trailor on emails? Wifey doesn't want it on her emails.
DOH. thx OatsSettings --> Mail --> SignatureHow do you turn off the obnoxious "Sent from my iPad" trailor on emails? Wifey doesn't want it on her emails.
Goggins, you must be SO good at life.What's insane are the people who have this phone now and won't sell it for 1kThat's insane. Why do people have to have one RIGHT NOW?I got my 32GB iPhone 4G today and I haven't opened it yet or activated it because I'm still trying to decide if I should sell it on ebay or not. Some completed listings have this version going for a bit above/below $1,000I'm curious what the iphone4 is going to go for on ebay in the coming days... the hype is crazy.
happened for me as well. got very slow on 3G when I had my hands wrapped around the side but was flying when I just left it on the table.CORRECTIONJust got it to replicate that test holding it on the left bottom side. Signal went all the way down and then back up. Couldn't do it in my gal's hands, just my big O mitts. But it happened.
LOL 3do you mean like grown men feverishly trying to register at a site so they could get a 3 digit member number?I am really besides myself that anyone would wait in line for hours for a phone which they could just swing in and buy at a later date. Unbelievable. This kind of action is at the top of the lists of one of the biggest wastes of time that is easily avoidable.
Well this antenna issue is Fn annoying already. I've already dropped more calls (3) than I have in the past month with my 3G.I can sit there with it flat in my hand (not touching sides) and have a full signal. Grab the sides like I'm ready to make a call and watch it go all the way down to 'Searching' within a minute or so. Just like that dude's video.
CORRECTIONJust got it to replicate that test holding it on the left bottom side. Signal went all the way down and then back up. Couldn't do it in my gal's hands, just my big O mitts. But it happened.
happened for me as well. got very slow on 3G when I had my hands wrapped around the side but was flying when I just left it on the table.CORRECTIONJust got it to replicate that test holding it on the left bottom side. Signal went all the way down and then back up. Couldn't do it in my gal's hands, just my big O mitts. But it happened.
That's part of the deal when you must have it first. Sure you can wait a few weeks or when the hype dies down and swap it for a newer one.Well this antenna issue is Fn annoying already. I've already dropped more calls (3) than I have in the past month with my 3G.I can sit there with it flat in my hand (not touching sides) and have a full signal. Grab the sides like I'm ready to make a call and watch it go all the way down to 'Searching' within a minute or so. Just like that dude's video.
Real Apple phans don't plan vacations so close to product releases. POSER!So I "reserved" one online when I couldn't get through to buy online on the first day. Bad idea.I went to the Apple store today, and the "reserved" line was 7 hours long. I wanted to get one before I go on vacation, but that's not gonna happen. Hopefully they have more supply in August?
Wow.One of the main reasons I wanted the 4 was because of the better reception. I shouldn't be required to buy a case of hold it daintily with my fingers.Jobs is saying to either use a case or hold it differently if you have reception issues. Very out of character for apple.
Maybe they did it on purpose to sell more casesJobs is saying to either use a case or hold it differently if you have reception issues. Very out of character for apple.
Maybe they did it on purpose to sell more casesJobs is saying to either use a case or hold it differently if you have reception issues. Very out of character for apple.
Did he really? I'll take this POS back if that's the case.Jobs is saying to either use a case or hold it differently if you have reception issues. Very out of character for apple.
Yes. Now out is apple's official statement. Very surprising too me.Did he really? I'll take this POS back if that's the case.Jobs is saying to either use a case or hold it differently if you have reception issues. Very out of character for apple.
Very dissapointing.I'll still be shocked if this is actually an" hardware issue, how do they not test for this?? Defintely sticking with my 3GS until this is resolvrd.Well that's not good.
Well this antenna issue is Fn annoying already. I've already dropped more calls (3) than I have in the past month with my 3G.I can sit there with it flat in my hand (not touching sides) and have a full signal. Grab the sides like I'm ready to make a call and watch it go all the way down to 'Searching' within a minute or so. Just like that dude's video. :(CORRECTIONJust got it to replicate that test holding it on the left bottom side. Signal went all the way down and then back up. Couldn't do it in my gal's hands, just my big O mitts. But it happened.happened for me as well. got very slow on 3G when I had my hands wrapped around the side but was flying when I just left it on the table.CORRECTIONJust got it to replicate that test holding it on the left bottom side. Signal went all the way down and then back up. Couldn't do it in my gal's hands, just my big O mitts. But it happened.
I can't reproduce the lower in the bars, so I wouldn't be shocked if their "testers" weren't holding it in a manner that would produce the problem. Maybe I just have small hands. :(Very dissapointing.I'll still be shocked if this is actually an" hardware issue, how do they not test for this?? Defintely sticking with my 3GS until this is resolvrd.