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Same thing is happening in Vancouver. Cost of living is huge and property values are silly. If you are willing to sell, you can often times buy twice the home at half the price in another Canadian city.
I throughly enjoyed playing poker every night at the Venetian on my last trip. It was the saving grace for my gaming experience on my last trip.
We are a group that goes out for the national bowling tournament. Even though the table limits are creeping up it is a place that has everything. They have a pool, table games, sportsbook, variety of restraurants, and other entertainment including a movie theatre. We even checked out the rodeo one year. Restraurants range from steak n shake, deli, japanese, up to a steak house. It never feels over crowded and has someone said up thread $1.50 hot dogs.
My friends usually go to SP and avoid the Strip. It’s 10-15 min south of the strip, but it doesn’t have the riff-raff. It’s basically an old-school casino that makes the customer feel welcome. You are not gouged at every turn. The Nathan’s hot dog cart for $1.50 would probably be $7.50 on the strip. Tables are lower limit, also offer good odds at the sportsbook. It’s closer to a family-run business vs beancounters trying to appease the stockholders.
If we can easily migrate some place off the strip, cool, but if not I want to be sure I know what I'm working with each day before getting out there.
Not just a giant sports book, but a separate and equally giant race book.
What are the cheapest tables (Wed and Thu) I can expect on the strip? Am I correct to assume 'free' drinks (need to tip obv) no longer come with playing? If that is the case where can I drink cheaply?Asking because we're more dive bar types of people anyway. How far do I have to travel to find cheaper tables? I assume DT is still cheaper, but much much cheaper? I primarily play blackjack. Hold'em too, but given the crowd I'm going with I'm not expecting to free up for a large enough window to make sitting at a table worthwhile.
I think that's all I need. More or less just wondering how many more $K to budget. We're gonna eat well, golf, pool, and take in a couple shows. I just want to be sure I don't run out of gambling money day one
Corporations focused on squeezing every cent out of you.
Thanks! What's tier 2? Below? Haven't been since pre covid but our usuals were Caesar's, NY NY, Flamingo, and surrounding areas (RIP O'Shea's and soon to be Margaritaville). Regardless, $15 is fine so may not bother with DT. Obviously prefer $10, but need a major cold streak for $15 to murder the budget in one day.What are the cheapest tables (Wed and Thu) I can expect on the strip? Am I correct to assume 'free' drinks (need to tip obv) no longer come with playing? If that is the case where can I drink cheaply?Asking because we're more dive bar types of people anyway. How far do I have to travel to find cheaper tables? I assume DT is still cheaper, but much much cheaper? I primarily play blackjack. Hold'em too, but given the crowd I'm going with I'm not expecting to free up for a large enough window to make sitting at a table worthwhile.
I think that's all I need. More or less just wondering how many more $K to budget. We're gonna eat well, golf, pool, and take in a couple shows. I just want to be sure I don't run out of gambling money day one
If you're not at the top tier spots (Caesar's, Bellagio, Aria, Wynn) you won't have any problem finding $15 tables for Craps/Blackjack, maybe a stray $10 table if you go down below the 2nd tier spots.
Drinks are absolutely still free while gambling.
You'll be fine with those places, except Caesar's. ParkMGM, Excalibur, PH, Horseshoe, Linq (Including the new O'Sheas) have the occasional $10-15 min. O'Shea's def not the same, but I did enjoy the Guinness I was just complaining about not getting.Thanks! What's tier 2? Below? Haven't been since pre covid but our usuals were Caesar's, NY NY, Flamingo, and surrounding areas (RIP O'Shea's and soon to be Margaritaville). Regardless, $15 is fine so may not bother with DT. Obviously prefer $10, but need a major cold streak for $15 to murder the budget in one day.What are the cheapest tables (Wed and Thu) I can expect on the strip? Am I correct to assume 'free' drinks (need to tip obv) no longer come with playing? If that is the case where can I drink cheaply?Asking because we're more dive bar types of people anyway. How far do I have to travel to find cheaper tables? I assume DT is still cheaper, but much much cheaper? I primarily play blackjack. Hold'em too, but given the crowd I'm going with I'm not expecting to free up for a large enough window to make sitting at a table worthwhile.
I think that's all I need. More or less just wondering how many more $K to budget. We're gonna eat well, golf, pool, and take in a couple shows. I just want to be sure I don't run out of gambling money day one
If you're not at the top tier spots (Caesar's, Bellagio, Aria, Wynn) you won't have any problem finding $15 tables for Craps/Blackjack, maybe a stray $10 table if you go down below the 2nd tier spots.
Drinks are absolutely still free while gambling.
Great stuff! Updating my notebook. Less concerned about 'dumps' when the wives aren't around, so may leverage this when they see spice girls and we...don't.
They usually give you drink tickets at the counter when you place enough in bets. Sometimes you have to ask.
Usually have to bet so much to get a drink ticket, maybe $100.
Yeah that's just weak.
So basically instead of paying the juice you get a drink.
$10 craps at OYO all the time. Still lost $300 there though... was my worst outing. It's also a dump but the bar in the back is decent. Not a great crowd though. I'd rather play downtown. It's grungy and funky in a good way whereas OYOB is just sad.
SouthPoint gives premium cocktails while playing video poker....don't settle for well !!!!
South Point is just solid all around. It’’s south of the strip on Las Vegas Blvd and is close to the Las Vegas Premium Outlets. The casino is nice and big with high ceilings. They have a good mix of lower and higher table limits. The food and drink options are plenty and most are decently priced. I’ve stayed there a couple of times—and while the rooms are not five star luxury quality—they are solid and well priced. There is a movie theater there as well as a bowling alley. My favorite aspect of the South Point is the energy in the casino. There is this nice mix of tourists and vegas locals that tend to patron the South Point. If you go there on a Friday or Saturday night, the energy of the place feels electric. It’s just a very fun and approachable place.
Kudos to me for not Hippling this thread into oblivion.
I want to say this about value: Loss leaders had been on shaky ground for some time, but Covid was an accelerant. Most of the buffets were defenestrated, replaced by food courts where the resorts just collect rent and don't have the hassles of operation. More broadly, the land and buildings are mostly owned by REITs, and operated by other companies. It isn't that the Mob is gone; the entrepreneur is an endangered species, at least on the Strip. This is another argument for Downtown, where multiple CEOs are on-property and shaking hands every day.
Bottom line, every part of a modern Vegas resort has to make money. And as much as many folks dislike the changes on the Strip, it's quite crowded, day and night. One of the other side effects of Covid is that it has given this country a seemingly intractable case of the F-its. It was described as "pent-up demand" when they reopened, but I don't think it is particularly transient at this point.
I'll be there for Masters weekend. I will return this evening with a few thoughts on safety, retirement and my personal situation.
Well, there's part of it. Here's the rest.
Kudos to me for not Hippling this thread into oblivion.
I want to say this about value: Loss leaders had been on shaky ground for some time, but Covid was an accelerant. Most of the buffets were defenestrated, replaced by food courts where the resorts just collect rent and don't have the hassles of operation. More broadly, the land and buildings are mostly owned by REITs, and operated by other companies. It isn't that the Mob is gone; the entrepreneur is an endangered species, at least on the Strip. This is another argument for Downtown, where multiple CEOs are on-property and shaking hands every day.
Bottom line, every part of a modern Vegas resort has to make money. And as much as many folks dislike the changes on the Strip, it's quite crowded, day and night. One of the other side effects of Covid is that it has given this country a seemingly intractable case of the F-its. It was described as "pent-up demand" when they reopened, but I don't think it is particularly transient at this point.
I'll be there for Masters weekend. I will return this evening with a few thoughts on safety, retirement and my personal situation.
Well, there's part of it. Here's the rest.
I'm staying at the El Cortez. I love the place. The sportsbook uses South Point lines, and the double-deck blackjack game is the best in town if you notice which cards have been played. They have tubs of iced-down beer in the pits, which helps make up for the drink service. The tower rooms have been recently remodeled. It's also in the middle of the East Fremont district, with a variety of hipster bars and restaurants.
The location is also why this might be my last stay at El Cortez. It is two looong blocks east of the Fremont Street Experience canopy. The canopy is well-lit, covered by video, and fairly safe 24/7. If you wander out from under it, you are downtown in a major American city. I am a large dude who walks fast with his head up, but I am barreling toward 63 years old. At some point, I become the old wildebeest on the savannah. East Fremont is hopping well past midnight, but making that walk at 3-4AM with hundreds (sometimes thousands) in my pocket can feel sketchy.
Security also informs the retirement equation. Like any city, LV has very nice places and places that look like the Thriller set. The prices in the nice places almost make Austin look like a value. Medical care would definitely be a downgrade. And although I have no one to educate, the lousy system in Las Vegas is everyone's problem long-term. If I were to win a lottery, I would have a unit in The Ogden within a year. Even though I'm a decent bet to get that second comma by retirement, I probably won't move to Las Vegas.
I will spend my last full day hitting the places on the Strip I like--Ellis Island, the Chandelier Bar at Cosmo, the Bellagio Conservatory, Casino Royale. I will have to include Fontainebleau now that it's open. Then I will scurry back Downtown where I belong.
lol, long blocks? It's like 600 feet, 200 paces.Kudos to me for not Hippling this thread into oblivion.
I want to say this about value: Loss leaders had been on shaky ground for some time, but Covid was an accelerant. Most of the buffets were defenestrated, replaced by food courts where the resorts just collect rent and don't have the hassles of operation. More broadly, the land and buildings are mostly owned by REITs, and operated by other companies. It isn't that the Mob is gone; the entrepreneur is an endangered species, at least on the Strip. This is another argument for Downtown, where multiple CEOs are on-property and shaking hands every day.
Bottom line, every part of a modern Vegas resort has to make money. And as much as many folks dislike the changes on the Strip, it's quite crowded, day and night. One of the other side effects of Covid is that it has given this country a seemingly intractable case of the F-its. It was described as "pent-up demand" when they reopened, but I don't think it is particularly transient at this point.
I'll be there for Masters weekend. I will return this evening with a few thoughts on safety, retirement and my personal situation.
Well, there's part of it. Here's the rest.
I'm staying at the El Cortez. I love the place. The sportsbook uses South Point lines, and the double-deck blackjack game is the best in town if you notice which cards have been played. They have tubs of iced-down beer in the pits, which helps make up for the drink service. The tower rooms have been recently remodeled. It's also in the middle of the East Fremont district, with a variety of hipster bars and restaurants.
The location is also why this might be my last stay at El Cortez. It is two looong blocks east of the Fremont Street Experience canopy. The canopy is well-lit, covered by video, and fairly safe 24/7. If you wander out from under it, you are downtown in a major American city. I am a large dude who walks fast with his head up, but I am barreling toward 63 years old. At some point, I become the old wildebeest on the savannah. East Fremont is hopping well past midnight, but making that walk at 3-4AM with hundreds (sometimes thousands) in my pocket can feel sketchy.
Security also informs the retirement equation. Like any city, LV has very nice places and places that look like the Thriller set. The prices in the nice places almost make Austin look like a value. Medical care would definitely be a downgrade. And although I have no one to educate, the lousy system in Las Vegas is everyone's problem long-term. If I were to win a lottery, I would have a unit in The Ogden within a year. Even though I'm a decent bet to get that second comma by retirement, I probably won't move to Las Vegas.
I will spend my last full day hitting the places on the Strip I like--Ellis Island, the Chandelier Bar at Cosmo, the Bellagio Conservatory, Casino Royale. I will have to include Fontainebleau now that it's open. Then I will scurry back Downtown where I belong.
Recommendations? Want to eat well, but prefer local when we travel. Figure Vegas will be more difficult to accomplish that goal.
Well, they may not be the best line every time. But in general, more options are better, and anything downtown that isn't a William Hill outpost is to your benefit.
kind of depends on if you want to venture off the strip or not, but I'd say with social media it's gotten easier to find them. I hate tik Tok but there is a guy called Brandon from Vegas and he has good recommendations and will be the sole reason I finally try Herbs and Rye for happy hour next time I go out there.
I'm going with a crowd that usually prefers to wander off the beaten path and not make a plan. That second part doesn't seem to sync with this new Vegas though. I think this 4 day Vegas trip may just yield gambling, golf, and pools (NTTAWWT), but I like to go prepared (thank you). Entirely possible we just get an all day buffet pass then decide on a whim to get tomahawk steaks...or see what tiktokker has to say if the gubmint (please don't ban, Joe) hasn't shut it down yet.
jealous on the golf part, dying laughing on the don’t ban part
So many good looking women there.
Went there. Fancy but stale. They look like there are gonna lose a lot of money on that place. Aria and FBL are my least favorite on the strip.
It’s been fun for me! What’s the question?
One has been answered
I don’t gamble so can’t comment on that side. I don’t go to the Strip very often..in my 16 months here have probably been to the Strip about 6 times total. It’s usually just to meet up with someone visiting from out of town.One has been answered
Have you noticed the changes (recent price hikes)?
How have they impacted you, if at all?
How often do you visit the strip?
Still "ok" retirement target?
I mostly use Lyft, with occasional cabs. When I was a younger man with more thirst for adventure, I rode the double-decker express bus a lot.Kudos to me for not Hippling this thread into oblivion.
I want to say this about value: Loss leaders had been on shaky ground for some time, but Covid was an accelerant. Most of the buffets were defenestrated, replaced by food courts where the resorts just collect rent and don't have the hassles of operation. More broadly, the land and buildings are mostly owned by REITs, and operated by other companies. It isn't that the Mob is gone; the entrepreneur is an endangered species, at least on the Strip. This is another argument for Downtown, where multiple CEOs are on-property and shaking hands every day.
Bottom line, every part of a modern Vegas resort has to make money. And as much as many folks dislike the changes on the Strip, it's quite crowded, day and night. One of the other side effects of Covid is that it has given this country a seemingly intractable case of the F-its. It was described as "pent-up demand" when they reopened, but I don't think it is particularly transient at this point.
I'll be there for Masters weekend. I will return this evening with a few thoughts on safety, retirement and my personal situation.
Well, there's part of it. Here's the rest.
I'm staying at the El Cortez. I love the place. The sportsbook uses South Point lines, and the double-deck blackjack game is the best in town if you notice which cards have been played. They have tubs of iced-down beer in the pits, which helps make up for the drink service. The tower rooms have been recently remodeled. It's also in the middle of the East Fremont district, with a variety of hipster bars and restaurants.
The location is also why this might be my last stay at El Cortez. It is two looong blocks east of the Fremont Street Experience canopy. The canopy is well-lit, covered by video, and fairly safe 24/7. If you wander out from under it, you are downtown in a major American city. I am a large dude who walks fast with his head up, but I am barreling toward 63 years old. At some point, I become the old wildebeest on the savannah. East Fremont is hopping well past midnight, but making that walk at 3-4AM with hundreds (sometimes thousands) in my pocket can feel sketchy.
Security also informs the retirement equation. Like any city, LV has very nice places and places that look like the Thriller set. The prices in the nice places almost make Austin look like a value. Medical care would definitely be a downgrade. And although I have no one to educate, the lousy system in Las Vegas is everyone's problem long-term. If I were to win a lottery, I would have a unit in The Ogden within a year. Even though I'm a decent bet to get that second comma by retirement, I probably won't move to Las Vegas.
I will spend my last full day hitting the places on the Strip I like--Ellis Island, the Chandelier Bar at Cosmo, the Bellagio Conservatory, Casino Royale. I will have to include Fontainebleau now that it's open. Then I will scurry back Downtown where I belong.
Thanks. What's your preferred way to get back and forth from Downtown to the Strip?
I don’t gamble so can’t comment on that side. I don’t go to the Strip very often..in my 16 months here have probably been to the Strip about 6 times total. It’s usually just to meet up with someone visiting from out of town.One has been answered
Have you noticed the changes (recent price hikes)?
How have they impacted you, if at all?
How often do you visit the strip?
Still "ok" retirement target?
I live in Summerlin which is about 15 mins from the Strip , but Summerlin has Red Rock Casino, Tivoli Village, Boca Park, Downtown Summerlin, Arts District and the Durango Casino which just opened up about 2 months ago all within 10 mins of me. There really is no need for me to bother with the Strip.
In terms of price increases I have noticed it a bit but I don’t internalize it too much. I enjoy upscale spots and living in a city like this you just assume you’ll be paying more for food and entertainment. I’m a single guy dating, with no kids and make a good salary so I’m doing fine (although dating can get expensive, but just part of the dance)
But in terms of living, weather, drivability and entertainment there isn’t a place I’d rather move to personally. And it’s only growing…Oakland A’s here in a couple years, an NBA team is inevitable, and approval for Hollywood Hills 2.0 just got approved. But, with all that, real estate will become even more ridiculously overpriced and prices overall will continue to rise.
Same. Exactly the same. Nothing wrong with taking a Deuce in public.
Or in craps?
Thank you.I don’t gamble so can’t comment on that side. I don’t go to the Strip very often..in my 16 months here have probably been to the Strip about 6 times total. It’s usually just to meet up with someone visiting from out of town.One has been answered
Have you noticed the changes (recent price hikes)?
How have they impacted you, if at all?
How often do you visit the strip?
Still "ok" retirement target?
I live in Summerlin which is about 15 mins from the Strip , but Summerlin has Red Rock Casino, Tivoli Village, Boca Park, Downtown Summerlin, Arts District and the Durango Casino which just opened up about 2 months ago all within 10 mins of me. There really is no need for me to bother with the Strip.
In terms of price increases I have noticed it a bit but I don’t internalize it too much. I enjoy upscale spots and living in a city like this you just assume you’ll be paying more for food and entertainment. I’m a single guy dating, with no kids and make a good salary so I’m doing fine (although dating can get expensive, but just part of the dance)
But in terms of living, weather, drivability and entertainment there isn’t a place I’d rather move to personally. And it’s only growing…Oakland A’s here in a couple years, an NBA team is inevitable, and approval for Hollywood Hills 2.0 just got approved. But, with all that, real estate will become even more ridiculously overpriced and prices overall will continue to rise.
