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What the F is this shoulder pain? (1 Viewer)

I am aware that aging causes certain things.......this isnt something i can chalk up to simple aging.

Unless you want to concede that every pain i will have for the rest of my life is due to aging. I am not going to do that.

 
I am aware that aging causes certain things.......this isnt something i can chalk up to simple aging.

Unless you want to concede that every pain i will have for the rest of my life is due to aging. I am not going to do that.
Not every muscular skeleton injury is apparent right away. this sounds like a tincture of time injury. Where in your hip? Sure it could be a one in a thousand tumor but not likely. you're at that age when stuff happens. Based on your first post and this last posts I'd GUESS that it is muscular. If your pain is in the front of your body (your front pocket) then it could be joint related (ball and socket) and that would be the thing to get checked out right away. if it is on the side it is likely a muscle and that is a "normal" injury. Get it checked out. Sounds like a muscle

 
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I am aware that aging causes certain things.......this isnt something i can chalk up to simple aging.

Unless you want to concede that every pain i will have for the rest of my life is due to aging. I am not going to do that.
Not every muscular skeleton injury is apparent right away. this sounds like a tincture of time injury. Where in your hip? Sure it could be a one in a thousand tumor but not likely. you're at that age when stuff happens. Based on your first post and this last posts I'd GUESS that it is muscular. If your pain is in the front of your body (your front pocket) then it could be joint related (ball and socket) and that would be the thing to get checked out right away. if it is on the side it is likely a muscle and that is a "normal" injury. Get it checked out. Sounds like a muscle
I can't tell exactly where the pain is. It is deep inside the hip area, NOT on the outside.

No one particular motion makes it hurt. It's very odd. I get the occasional sharp stabbing pain lasting half a second, and the last couple days I have a strange dull throb (doesnt hurt that much) that comes and goes sometimes very frequent, sometimes nothing for a couple hours.

Definitely something I will be getting checked out.

I never got my shoulder checked out because that pain went away so quickly. If that same pain ever came back, damn sure I will get myself checked out for that also.

 
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I woudl say closer to the front than the rear, sure.
I still say muscular but impossible to diagnose from my chair and with my lack of expertise. Maybe something degenerative that's just at the beginning. It's likely not as bad as you think. Go to your main doctor and he will know if to refer you to a specialist. You won't get peace of mind until then. good luck and let us know.

 
I woudl say closer to the front than the rear, sure.
I still say muscular but impossible to diagnose from my chair and with my lack of expertise. Maybe something degenerative that's just at the beginning. It's likely not as bad as you think. Go to your main doctor and he will know if to refer you to a specialist. You won't get peace of mind until then. good luck and let us know.
I am just going to skip the middle man and make an appointment with the Ortho doc.

I still think some weed would help out a lot.

 
I woudl say closer to the front than the rear, sure.
I still say muscular but impossible to diagnose from my chair and with my lack of expertise. Maybe something degenerative that's just at the beginning. It's likely not as bad as you think. Go to your main doctor and he will know if to refer you to a specialist. You won't get peace of mind until then. good luck and let us know.
I am just going to skip the middle man and make an appointment with the Ortho doc.

I still think some weed would help out a lot.
I'd go GP first if you have a good one.

 
I'd go GP first if you have a good one.
I dont have a good one. I dont even have one (not a regular one that is). However, the place I go for general things is also the same place I would go for an orthopedic appt.

I will push for the medicinal wacky tobacky

 
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I'd go GP first if you have a good one.
I dont have a good one. I dont even have one (not a regular one that is)
I would use this as an excuse to find a good GP. Just making an appointment with a specialist without a diagnosis is going to be expensive and on top of that push you to a place that may overlook something. Let a doctor examine you and then refer you. Just my advice.

 
I'd go GP first if you have a good one.
I dont have a good one. I dont even have one (not a regular one that is)
I would use this as an excuse to find a good GP. Just making an appointment with a specialist without a diagnosis is going to be expensive and on top of that push you to a place that may overlook something. Let a doctor examine you and then refer you. Just my advice.
Good insurance.......35 bucks for a specialist I believe for me.

I would also tend to think an orthopaedist would be better with an examination than some yahoo GP.

There are some good GPs out there, but damn, they are not easy to find.

 
I would agree I do need to find a good GP.......I am just not concerned with finding a good one BEFORE I get this checked out by a specialist.

 
I'd go GP first if you have a good one.
I dont have a good one. I dont even have one (not a regular one that is)
I would use this as an excuse to find a good GP. Just making an appointment with a specialist without a diagnosis is going to be expensive and on top of that push you to a place that may overlook something. Let a doctor examine you and then refer you. Just my advice.
Good insurance.......35 bucks for a specialist I believe for me.

I would also tend to think an orthopaedist would be better with an examination than some yahoo GP.

There are some good GPs out there, but damn, they are not easy to find.
Ask your friends. Perfect time to find one. Let him present you. If you have good insurance especially. You can't even pinpoint the pain and even if you could go to an internist

 
Ask your friends. Perfect time to find one. Let him present you. If you have good insurance especially. You can't even pinpoint the pain and even if you could go to an internist
None of my friends have a good one. Already barked up that tree. Like I said, not many good ones out there. The good Docs don't tend to meddle in mediocre pay.

Also, I dont need to be able to pin point the pain in order for them to assess me properly with ROM techniques.

Basically, I WILL be searching for a good GP, but doing it before I get this checked out isn't a real smart move when I am 99.9% sure who a GP is going to refer me to anyway.

 
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I would agree I do need to find a good GP.......I am just not concerned with finding a good one BEFORE I get this checked out by a specialist.
Kill two birds with one stone. It's my experience you want to go to one guy for everything except emergencies. then you'll be referred as needed. Or else you'll be making appointments with a half dozen doctors who don't know you. ask your friends who their best gp is and he's probably better than whichever random specialist you make an appointment with. maybe you find a great specialist but why not try for the home base doctor if you have insurance.

 
I would agree I do need to find a good GP.......I am just not concerned with finding a good one BEFORE I get this checked out by a specialist.
Kill two birds with one stone. It's my experience you want to go to one guy for everything except emergencies. then you'll be referred as needed. Or else you'll be making appointments with a half dozen doctors who don't know you. ask your friends who their best gp is and he's probably better than whichever random specialist you make an appointment with. maybe you find a great specialist but why not try for the home base doctor if you have insurance.
Because I want to get this looked at ASAP, and waiting to search for a GP would just be silly. I am not waiting.

 
The good Docs don't tend to meddle in mediocre pay.
Interesting. I have always found the exact opposite. My doctor now is best i ever had and he for sure doesnt care about money. i've been to many specialists who care more about how their office looks and they are lousy doctors.

 
Now, on occasion a specialist will require a referral, in which case I will go to whichever yahoo GP has an opening and tell them what I need.

 
I would agree I do need to find a good GP.......I am just not concerned with finding a good one BEFORE I get this checked out by a specialist.
Kill two birds with one stone. It's my experience you want to go to one guy for everything except emergencies. then you'll be referred as needed. Or else you'll be making appointments with a half dozen doctors who don't know you. ask your friends who their best gp is and he's probably better than whichever random specialist you make an appointment with. maybe you find a great specialist but why not try for the home base doctor if you have insurance.
Because I want to get this looked at ASAP, and waiting to search for a GP would just be silly. I am not waiting.
OK. Do what you think is best of course. I don't now what the pain feel like.

 
The good Docs don't tend to meddle in mediocre pay.
Interesting. I have always found the exact opposite. My doctor now is best i ever had and he for sure doesnt care about money. i've been to many specialists who care more about how their office looks and they are lousy doctors.
You found a good GP. That is rare. Start a thread about it and I bet y ou get some funny feedback.

####, one guy I went to told me at one point that negative pressure rooms are a myth.

 
Now, on occasion a specialist will require a referral, in which case I will go to whichever yahoo GP has an opening and tell them what I need.
You just need a good GP. Sounds like you have had some bad internists.
Not just me, all I ever hear is how terrible GPs are, from everyone I know. I know a lot of people. I am also a nurse, and all I hear are bad things from everyone.

Very few people I know have one they trust, and the ones that do, (of course) those docs arent taking on new patients.

 
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The good Docs don't tend to meddle in mediocre pay.
Interesting. I have always found the exact opposite. My doctor now is best i ever had and he for sure doesnt care about money. i've been to many specialists who care more about how their office looks and they are lousy doctors.
You found a good GP. That is rare. Start a thread about it and I bet y ou get some funny feedback.

####, one guy I went to told me at one point that negative pressure rooms are a myth.
I found my guy from asking around, A friend of a friend of a friend said they had the best guy and he was in my network. I had been going to bad GP's forever. still, I used to make direct appointments with specialists for similar issues as you have and I regret it.

 
Now, on occasion a specialist will require a referral, in which case I will go to whichever yahoo GP has an opening and tell them what I need.
You just need a good GP. Sounds like you have had some bad internists.
Not just me, all I ever hear is how terrible GPs are, from everyone I know. I know a lot of people. I am also a nurse, and all I hear are bad things from everyone.

Very few people I know have one they trust, and the ones that do, (of course) those docs arent taking on new patients.
OK.

If you're a nurse you don't know of one good GP? I don't know. I guess i'm lucky. Where are you geographically?

 
OK.

If you're a nurse you don't know of one good GP? I don't know. I guess i'm lucky. Where are you geographically?
Near Cleveland. I am sure there are some in Cleveland, just a matter of finding them. Again, something I will do AFTER getting my hip looked at by someone who specializes in, ya know, hips.

 
Give me an example of making an appointment with a specialist that you regretted?
gastro. called him directly. waste of time. before that it was for my back. before that it was for my neck
I meant a a full example. What was your issue, who do you go to, and why did you regret it.

I trust my clinical expertise enough to know where I need to go for certain things.
The last time I had a pain in the middle of my abdomen. For over three months. Exactly in my xiphoid process area. I called a gastro directly. thousands of dollars of tests later I was given a clean bill of health except for the pain still present.

 
The last time I had a pain in the middle of my abdomen. For over three months. Exactly in my xiphoid process area. I called a gastro directly. thousands of dollars of tests later I was given a clean bill of health except for the pain still present.
Abdominal/chest area pain, yeah, get assessed by a GP.

And if you had to pay thousands of dollars yourself, I am sorry you have that kind of insurance.

 
The last time I had a pain in the middle of my abdomen. For over three months. Exactly in my xiphoid process area. I called a gastro directly. thousands of dollars of tests later I was given a clean bill of health except for the pain still present.
Abdominal/chest area pain, yeah, get assessed by a GP.

And if you had to pay thousands of dollars yourself, I am sorry you have that kind of insurance.
Many people now have high deductibles. Actually, when the shoulder was your main concern and you mentioned an MRI, my first thought was that MRIs are expensive and most physicians should go with more conservative treatment. Glad to hear the shoulder is better now.

As far as the hip, I would do some simple, common sense things - make sure to drink enough water and try some gentle stretching. I've had nagging low back pain cured with 10 minutes of good stretching. And maybe give it a rest for a couple weeks. Seems like you're still very active. I've had nagging tendonitus issues that needed rest and short term use of anti-inflammatories.

I pulled a muscle on the front side of my right hip. Of course, I know exactly when I did it. Stretching and patience were required. It takes time to heal. I also benefited from a massage guy. Always liked "hands on" work. And this one is good - does deep tissue work and customizes what he does to your issue.

So, water, stretching, rest, massage and most importantly - listen to your body. You should know what feels normal and what doesn't. All of these should be beneficial while you wait for your orthopaedic appointment..

ETA: Youtube is a good source of stretching videos. For example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mjBaLVlQWw

 
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Figured I would post this here and update the thread, with a different pain.

---the shoulder pain is totally gone, and was actually gone within afew days of me posting about it on here-----

I must be breaking down or some sort of brain issue going on, but I have a new pain to discuss, though this was actually there far before the shoulder pain.

Anyway, about a year ago a developed a pretty damn painful, VERY sharp kind of pain, deep inside my right hip area. I did not do anything to injure myself, at least not that I know of, and it just came out of nowhere. Now for about a year, this pain is very sharp, very sudden, and ONLY occured when I was laying flat on my back and relaxed all muscles, or when I was laying flat on my back and stretching, tensing all my muscles, and then I would feel it. Also sometimes when I was standing and turned `my body a certain way. When the pain came it was sharp, sudden, felt like I was being literally stabbed in the deepest part of my hip, but the pain would last like half a second and go away as soon as I changed positions. It never hurt when I was running, playing basketball, or anything.

Now, about 3-4 days ago, the pain is there seemingly most of the time. It still doesnt hurt any worse when running (in fact I dont feel it at all when running, I feel it more when walking). The pain now is not that bad, just kind of an annoying throbbing type of pain that is fairly easy to deal with, doesnt keep me from doing anythign, but is just annoying, especially when trying to get some sleep.

Setting up an appointment with an orthopedic doctor, hopefully this week.

I have a feeling this one is much more legit than the shoulder pain given that it has been there for quite a while now.

God my body is stupid.
pain has a way of moving around your body....if you`re lucky in a few weeks you will fart it right out of your body and be done with it

 
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OK. Do what you think is best of course. I don't now what the pain feel like.
My educated guess tells me it is a good idea to see an orthopaedic specialist for an orthopaedic problem.
The problem with this is that you may get an orthopedic answer to what may not be an orthopedic problem. Sort of like going to a surgeon and getting a surgical answer and no other choice. Specialist prefer their specialties. That's why they picked them.

 
So i will get a fake diagnosis just so they can cut me open??

I am going to be referred to an orthopaedist, may as well do to an orthopaedist.

An orthopaedic specialist is going to misdiagnose me while a general practitioner is gonna nail it. Got it.

 
Without reading the entire thread I had a similar situation over a year ago, had the cortisone injections, physical therapy ad nauseum,etc. Nothing helped. Finally had a doctor do cold laser treatments on it, which my insurance wouldn't pay for, but it worked, 3 treatments and it was fixed

 
I had a sore shoulder for a while. I figured out it was because of the way I was sleeping. I had gotten into the habit of sleeping with my arms over my head. I fixed it by simply laying flat on my back with arms at my sides when I fell asleep. I think it took a month or two for it to completely heal.
I think Ive got this going on right now. I self-diagnosed it as bursitis caused by the way I was sleeping. Problem is I cant sleep flat on my back. :wall:
I had the same sort of thing due to how I was sleeping. When I was sleeping on my stomach I'd have my arms over my head, more or less like I was using them as a pillow. Realized the way I was lying, my right torso was propped up by my arm, and my shoulder had to support the weight all night. Took me a long time to realize what it was. When on my stomach now I just extend my arm to the side or down my body so my torso is lying flat. It went away immediately and hasn't come back.

ETA: Had an MRI when it was at its worst, no damage found.
Several years ago I forced myself to stop sleeping on my stomach because it was causing lower back pain. Now Ive got shoulder pain from sleeping on my side. Who knew sleeping was so strenuous? Getting old is the suck.
I've been going through this and thinking it's because of how I sleep. My mattress isn't that old but maybe it's wearing down?

I usually sleep on my left side and fortunately I've been able to sleep on my back. At least fall asleep but I'm sure I wind up on my left side again during the night. My pain can best be described by saying that you're driving using hand signals and are making a right turn. Now try to move you arm back. That's where the pain is. I can't turn my alarm off anymore with my left arm (clock is on my left)

I don't need a referral on my insurance. Should I still go to my PCP or just find a specialist? What kind of doc handles shoulder pain?

 
I had a sore shoulder for a while. I figured out it was because of the way I was sleeping. I had gotten into the habit of sleeping with my arms over my head. I fixed it by simply laying flat on my back with arms at my sides when I fell asleep. I think it took a month or two for it to completely heal.
I think Ive got this going on right now. I self-diagnosed it as bursitis caused by the way I was sleeping. Problem is I cant sleep flat on my back. :wall:
I had the same sort of thing due to how I was sleeping. When I was sleeping on my stomach I'd have my arms over my head, more or less like I was using them as a pillow. Realized the way I was lying, my right torso was propped up by my arm, and my shoulder had to support the weight all night. Took me a long time to realize what it was. When on my stomach now I just extend my arm to the side or down my body so my torso is lying flat. It went away immediately and hasn't come back.

ETA: Had an MRI when it was at its worst, no damage found.
Several years ago I forced myself to stop sleeping on my stomach because it was causing lower back pain. Now Ive got shoulder pain from sleeping on my side. Who knew sleeping was so strenuous? Getting old is the suck.
I've been going through this and thinking it's because of how I sleep. My mattress isn't that old but maybe it's wearing down?

I usually sleep on my left side and fortunately I've been able to sleep on my back. At least fall asleep but I'm sure I wind up on my left side again during the night. My pain can best be described by saying that you're driving using hand signals and are making a right turn. Now try to move you arm back. That's where the pain is. I can't turn my alarm off anymore with my left arm (clock is on my left)

I don't need a referral on my insurance. Should I still go to my PCP or just find a specialist? What kind of doc handles shoulder pain?
Finally went to the doctor for this. Got a few xrays and thankfully it doesn't look like any damage. He's calling it a frozen shoulder. I actually thought that after doing some research online. Cortizone shot and some physical therapy for a month. Hopefully it's better. If not, getting an mri and go from there.

 

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