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WR Keenan Allen, CHI (1 Viewer)
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Wow
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
That’s wild.
Penguin
Footballguy
Oh waitJustin Fields
osubuckeyeman
Footballguy
Wow is right. I see your Mooney and raise you with an Allen.
osubuckeyeman
Footballguy
Now trade Fields for a 4th and get the 4th back. LOL
beef
Footballguy
Penguin
Footballguy
Was just thinking the same thing
whoknew
Footballguy
All Harbaugh needs are FBs and TEs.
Penguin
Footballguy
Everyone was mocking Bowers to them at 5, maybe he takes his boy Roman Wilson @ 69
I'd be blown away if at least Alt didn't go in the top-7.
Love this move for the Bears, and for such little draft capital.
Fantasy wise, this is a downgrade for Allen for sure (and Herbert while we're at it) but there could still be some WR2 meat on the bone. Bears passing game could very much be a 2-man show, where neither is top-12, but both are top-24.
joey
Footballguy
You misspelled Herbert.
Sunday Gravy
Footballguy
Very good chance we see 3 straight qbs followed by 3 straight wrs.
Stoneworker
Footballguy
Not so fast...from ESPN
Allen, 31, told reporters in January that he would only play for a select few teams if traded from the Chargers and would consider retirement.
Allen, 31, told reporters in January that he would only play for a select few teams if traded from the Chargers and would consider retirement.
Caleb to the moon.
I'd strap down on April 25th
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
I certainly get it if he does, but he’s got $23.1MM reasons to stick it out for one more season.
One of those teams just happens to be the bears
Are we sure about thatOne of those teams just happens to be the bears
GreenNGold
Footballguy
I don't understand the move from the Bear's side, they aren't a 1-year rental at WR away from contending, they should be using their draft picks to build toward the future.
Who says its a 1 year rental?
Bears are a lot closer to contending than people think. Defense was top-5 down the stretch, if the QB play is better (and Allen helps that even if they somehow stuck with Fields) this could absolutely be a playoff team, especially in a weak NFC.
Da Franchise
Footballguy
It doesn’t matter if they contend or not. If you draft a QB early, it’s malpractice not to do everything possible to surround him with the necessary talent that aids his development.
What does more to help acclimate Caleb to the NFL as a rookie…a 4th round pick or one of the best zone beating WRs in the league? And for the record, DJM is one of the very best man beaters, so they are being very intentional about the fit as well.
If he plays the first 6 games of Caleb’s career and nothing more, it’s a great move.
3nOut
Footballguy
+ Kmet, Everett, possible 1st rd WR or TE, Khalil Herbert, & Roschon Johnson
Birdie048
Footballguy
Unlike the Panthers efforts to support Bryce Young. This is a more effective effort, but time will tell.
Gold Fox
Footballguy
Not just aiding the development, but also *aiding the evaluation* of the QB. Panthers have no idea if Young can be that guy or not. Teams can’t wait 3-4 years to figure that out.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Wow. Very unhappy about this as a Chargers fan.
-I understand how you feel, but I think I would trust Harbaugh. It does feel like perhaps the Chargers are not aiming for the Playoffs in '24, maybe he told the FO he needs at least a year to reshape the team the way he would like them. I guess what I'm saying is he's not just trying to win with whatever Brandon Staley had put together. It likely feels uneasy
-If they draft a rookie QB, it might be a great thing to have one of the best set of hands in the NFL over the last decade
-Agreed and so that will shake things out a bit
Da Franchise
Footballguy
Right, what he actually produces is a different question. I think it’s a great trade for the Bears and their new QB but that doesn’t mean I’m going to be in on him for fantasy. My immediate reaction is it’s a fine spot, but his per game averages will trail off a good bit from last years pace. That’s going to be a very talented offense next year if they stay healthy. If they can build a good scheme it could be one of the higher scoring teams in the league.
All intents and purposes 32.
Was good last year but IMO fantasy football fans are a little too high on him. Was beneficiary of massive volume, when he got hurt he was about a whole target a game over the next WR in the NFL.
LAC could have extended him to lower the cap, did not look like they wanted to.
But still good at what he does, elite possession WR, did not see any sign of decline, nice pairing in offense for all the reasons Da Franchise pointed out a few posts up and if they let him walk after a year they probably get a comp pick.
No brainer move for the Bears with the cap space, cost to acquire, and incoming rookie QB.
NFC N looks fun, Minny’s got some work to do.
Despyzer
Lousy Attention Whore
That's not what the reporting states, but it's possible they lowballed him to the point where he had to decline.
Tau837
Footballguy
In terms of his play on the field, Allen had the best season of his career last season, and 2022 was arguably the second best. IMO he is not close to the cliff. His elite traits (football intelligence, route running, hands) are not generally affected by age.
However, moving from Herbert to (presumably) Williams is a downgrade. Not sure what his numbers will look like as a result.
Tau837
Footballguy
This is not true. If they weren't trying to contend in 2024, they would have traded Mack and probably Bosa, but instead they restructured both.
Apparently, they just did not value Allen as highly as he valued himself, and they are being disciplined in their approach to the cap in a way that the previous Chargers front office was not.
Allen has always been my favorite non 49er. Have him on my dynasty team and this is a move in the wrong direction for FF but not as much as some people think IMO. I’m glad he declined the pay cut. Not his fault that management sucked and couldn’t manage the cap. He was fantastic last year and probably would have only missed a game or two if they had been in contention. With his route running ability, I think he has another 2 good years in him at least.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
That makes a lot of sense
Ilov80s
Footballguy
I know we expect the Chargers to be a slow, low volume pass offense but I would still rather have Herbert's WR1 than a rookie's WR2
