zamboni
Footballguy
Not this year, my friend. And just about every WR has their ups and downs - nature of the position.
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WR Keenan Allen, CHI (2 Viewers)
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Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
15 - 2 - 12 - 4 - 6 - 14
I'm not saying that it is necessarily a problem, but not sure how you can say he hasn't been up and down this year production-wise.
He's had only one game below 10 pts PPR (game 2 dud 2 for 16 yds). I would say he's been super consistent this year.
15 - 2 - 12 - 4 - 6 - 14
I'm not saying that it is necessarily a problem, but not sure how you can say he hasn't been up and down this year production-wise.
Adam Harstad
Moderator
Small samples are small samples. Keenan Allen has been more inconsistent than, say, Brandon Marshall, DeAndre Hopkins, or Julian Edelman. But he's been less inconsistant than, say, Allen Robinson, Calvin Johnson, Antonio Brown (yes, extenuating circumstances), Steve Smith, or Randall Cobb.
15 - 2 - 12 - 4 - 6 - 14
I'm not saying that it is necessarily a problem, but not sure how you can say he hasn't been up and down this year production-wise.
Here's Keenan Allen vs. Julio Jones, with their games sorted from best to worst:
1st: 37.3 vs. 40.4
2nd: 31.6 vs. 35.1
3rd: 29.7 vs. 26.5
4th: 17.2 vs. 15.3
5th: 11.7 vs. 11.7
6th: 2.6 vs. 7.8
That 2.6 really stands out, but the shape and distribution isn't substantially different.
(As an aside, DeAndre Hopkins is a machine. He had a 10.3 in week 2, and has topped 24 points in every other game.)
Ditka Butkus
Footballguy
The play that knocked him out of the game, he was just running a route made a cut and his leg buckled. Tried to come back and couldn't go. Unless he is a fast healer, I don't think it loosens up enough for him to play. Lets see if he practices today or tomorrow.
LAUNCH
Footballguy
http://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/football/news/chargers-keenan-allen-misses-thursdays-practice/
Allen (hip flexor) missed practice again Thursday, Michael Gehlken of the San Diego Union-Tribune reports.
After having logged back-to-back absences from practice out of the gate this week, what Allen does (or doesn't do) on the field Friday will be telling. As long as he is able to practice in some capacity Friday, an official questionable Week 7 designation seems a likely outcome for the wideout, who caught 14 passes against Green Bay this past Sunday.
Allen (hip flexor) missed practice again Thursday, Michael Gehlken of the San Diego Union-Tribune reports.
After having logged back-to-back absences from practice out of the gate this week, what Allen does (or doesn't do) on the field Friday will be telling. As long as he is able to practice in some capacity Friday, an official questionable Week 7 designation seems a likely outcome for the wideout, who caught 14 passes against Green Bay this past Sunday.
Keenan Allen (questionable, hip) told reporters Friday that his hip flexor injury is no longer a concern.
Allen also promised he'll play against the Raiders after returning to Friday's practice. "I don't feel it at all," Allen insisted of the hip issue. "... I don't feel like I lost a step or anything. ... I'll be out there." Oct 23 - 2:59 PM
Source: Union-Tribune San Diego
Allen also promised he'll play against the Raiders after returning to Friday's practice. "I don't feel it at all," Allen insisted of the hip issue. "... I don't feel like I lost a step or anything. ... I'll be out there." Oct 23 - 2:59 PM
Source: Union-Tribune San Diego
aardball44
Footballguy
I've got Allen Robinson in my lineup ahead of him this morning, but looking for a reason to make the switch. Give me one.
(Edit: Never mind, and apologies for the blatant WDIS in here. Oh, and Keenan's back in my lineup.)
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SameSongNDance
Footballguy
Mike Garafolo
✔@MikeGarafolo
Brutal news for the Chargers: WR Keenan Allen to miss time with a kidney injury, per Mike McCoy to reporters.
3:28 PM - 2 Nov 2015
✔@MikeGarafolo
Brutal news for the Chargers: WR Keenan Allen to miss time with a kidney injury, per Mike McCoy to reporters.
3:28 PM - 2 Nov 2015
Van Dyman
Footballguy
Willie Neslon
Footballguy
Hopefully with bye week 10 he just misses one game.
Willie Neslon
Footballguy
- In cases of a simple kidney contusion, the patient is usually monitored closely for a few days.
The kidney will usually heal on it's own without further complications within a week or so.
Van Dyman
Footballguy
Wonderllama
Footballguy
Bye week's coming at the right time. Hopefully three weeks off should do the trick.
modogg
Footballguy
would have loved him for this Bears game though. As an owner of Foster and Charles as well, any injury news i get these days, i am just happy that they aren't for the entire season
Seems long term now
https://twitter.com/jenebramel
Keenan Allen in hospital. Means needs observation for possible ongoing bleeding. Unlikely to be 2-3 wk recovery now.
https://twitter.com/jenebramel
Keenan Allen in hospital. Means needs observation for possible ongoing bleeding. Unlikely to be 2-3 wk recovery now.
Penguin
Footballguy
From Doctor Jene...
Keenan Allen in hospital. Means needs observation for possible ongoing bleeding. Unlikely to be 2-3 wk recovery now.
Not surprising to hear Allen still hospitalized. Trauma docs take great care w/ organ injuries.
Still possible for Allen to stabilize and recover quickly if no additional symptoms. But would take the over on 2 weeks now.
To clarify, trauma docs follow blood cell counts, symptoms, and serial CT scans to ensure no ongoing or new bleeding in solid organ injury.
Any worsening in those parameters (or lack of improvement) and procedure/surgery to stop ongoing bleeding may be necessary.
Status often known within first 24 hours. Hospital stay continues until stable. Not considered entirely out of danger for days, however.
Keenan Allen in hospital. Means needs observation for possible ongoing bleeding. Unlikely to be 2-3 wk recovery now.
Not surprising to hear Allen still hospitalized. Trauma docs take great care w/ organ injuries.
Still possible for Allen to stabilize and recover quickly if no additional symptoms. But would take the over on 2 weeks now.
To clarify, trauma docs follow blood cell counts, symptoms, and serial CT scans to ensure no ongoing or new bleeding in solid organ injury.
Any worsening in those parameters (or lack of improvement) and procedure/surgery to stop ongoing bleeding may be necessary.
Status often known within first 24 hours. Hospital stay continues until stable. Not considered entirely out of danger for days, however.
Adam Schefter
✔@AdamSchefter
Chargers' WR Keenan Allen underwent a kidney procedure – not a surgery – and could be out for season, per league sources. 2015 uncertain.
12:04 PM - 3 Nov 2015
✔@AdamSchefter
Chargers' WR Keenan Allen underwent a kidney procedure – not a surgery – and could be out for season, per league sources. 2015 uncertain.
12:04 PM - 3 Nov 2015
BroncoFreak_2K3
sucker for Orange
Kid is a total stud. Hope he recovers fully and tears it up next season like he was doing this season.
Breesisdaman
Footballguy
Out ROS. Im holding until he goes on IR
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Madden Curse
Footballguy
If it wasn't a surgery - as in, there was no invasive cutting or removal - then how bad could it be? Any medical people out there know much about how a "procedure" is any better or worse than "surgery"?
oddsbodkins
Footballguy
BR saying it's a lacerated kidney. Damn.
Willie Neslon
Footballguy
Like the true stud he was, his final play of the year was a TD on a tough catch. It sucks but he produced right up until his final snap. It's much worse when you start a guy, he gets hurt early in a game and gives you a goose egg. Keenan gave his owners production in his final start and now allows his owners a clean break and immediately opens a roster spot. (trying to be positive here)
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BroncoFreak_2K3
sucker for Orange
Deamon
Footballguy
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Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
This some bull####! Rub some dirt on it and get back out there!
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
Guy was in the running for fantasy MVP, sad day!
Adam Harstad
Moderator
Do we believe that Keenan Allen's lacerated kidney is indicative of an increased propensity towards suffering major organ damage?
If not, then what's the concern?
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Yeah, looking at this in any way other than a silly fluke would be idiotic as a fantasy player. But I hope that is what people do. I will be looking to get him in every league that I dont already have him.
zamboni
Footballguy
To be sure, anyone is susceptible to injury.
I just think the way he plays, god bless him, is that it's all out all the time. And with that often comes the risk of being vulnerable to big hits.
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ghostguy123
Footballguy
So which guys arent vulnerable to big hits and injuries? Will probably be a super short list, if there is any list at all
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
Stevie Johnson and Floyd - What is the value here? I don't think either consistently produces anything close - thoughts?
Willie Neslon
Footballguy
Who gets the biggest bump? Does it help Gates? Woodhead? It has to, right?
Allen got a ton of targets. I imagine Steve Johnson will take over his position, although certainly won't get all of the targets. I can see Stevie being the main bump, with an extra couple of targets for Gates/Green and Floyd.
