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****Official 2015 Chicago Bears Offseason Thread **** (1 Viewer)
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Max Power
Footballguy
I wouldn't be against Cooper at #7 depending who is still on the board. But I really need to start reading up on the second and third tier prospects.
I'd really like Chicago to address WR by the 4th round at the latest
flapgreen
Footballguy
Still need quite a bit of OL help
Max Power
Footballguy
I'd love Cam Erving to slip to round 2.
and the more I read on Brandon Scherff, the more I like the kid. Maybe a reach at 7, but this guy is a football player.
flapgreen
Footballguy
Will be McPhee and Houston.
msommer
Footballguy
Wow, just saw Jared Allen's contract. That's the suck for a backup OLB (according to the depth chart above). No wonder you got rid of the GM that got you Cutler's contract and a 12.5m (guaranteed) charge for a used up Jared Allen. At least he played up to his 3m last year...
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flapgreen
Footballguy
They need another wr. The fact that they traded Marshall doesn't matter now.
flapgreen
Footballguy
Terrible contract but he's way better than he showed last year. Terrible DC. Whole team fell apart. Got pneumonia at the beginning of the season and lost 15 pounds. He'll come back and do well this year. He's not finished.
Wow, my spellin.Has either of those guys played much in pass defense? I took McPhee for a situational edge rusher and Houston has always played in 4-3 i thought.
mlball77
Footballguy
Yeah, I sort of thought Houston would be a decent fit as a 3-4 DE... so I was a bit suprised to hear the plan is to use him at 3-4 OLB. This and the McClellin ILB thing are headscratchers to me, but I'll trust the new regime knows what they're doing. That said, I do tihnk this year will one with plenty of growing pains, particularly on defense, as the personnel just isn't where it needs to be yet (despite some solid adds). But with as bad as the D has been recently for CHI, the pains associated with the transition to 3-4 will likely not "hurt" much, if any, worse than what has already been experienced.
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flapgreen
Footballguy
Houston played OLB in Oakland some. I know McPhee did as well. That's what they're counting on.
pyite76
Footballguy
On the way into work I started thinking... Anyone else think that brining in Reggie Wayne would be a solid move? He can't cost that much, can he? My thinking is he could be a great safety net for Cutler to get his confidence back, he'd bring some much needed leadership to our young WRs and to the locker room in general.
flapgreen
Footballguy
I agree, but there might be one in the 2nd still. Cooper White Parker DGB Strong Agholor Perriman. After those 7 I'm not really interested
Max Power
Footballguy
Max Power
Footballguy
I'd be ok with giving Justin Hardy or Rasheed Greene a chance in the 4th round. Neither will ever be a #1 WR, but those two kids can play football.
flapgreen
Footballguy
Why not? Have to fill out the roster. He places special teams and catches well out of the backfield.
RBM
Footballguy
This I dont get. He's not very good. I was hoping we would be looking RB in the 3rd or 4th with this crazy deep crop.
can he play special teams though? if vet min and a decent special teams player this isnt the worst signing in the world... i've tried my best to flush the 2014 bears season out of my mind... but i dont recall kadeem carey playing special teams or perhaps not very well. I really have no objection signing vets to min contracts with minimal guarenteed money
jagbag
Footballguy
"In addition to his offensive skills, Rodgers could also be an asset on special teams. Last season, Rodgers surrendered his kick return duties to former Chicago Bear Devin Hester in Atlanta. But from 2012-13, Rodgers was the Falcons’ primary return man on kickoffs, totaling 1,167 yards on 48 returns."
By Clyde A. Speller
Not real good, not real bad.
A tad below average.
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ZWK
Footballguy
I like the Rodgers signing (assuming that he came cheap). He's a solid 3rd down back - solid blocker, pretty good receiver - and he's been useful on special teams, both in coverage and as a kick returner.
He's a better player than Vlad Ducasse or Jarvis Jenkins, even if he's just a role player.
He's a better player than Vlad Ducasse or Jarvis Jenkins, even if he's just a role player.
Statcruncher
Footballguy
That was 2 years ago, Chicago would be lucky if he could approach those numbers again.jagbag said:"In addition to his offensive skills, Rodgers could also be an asset on special teams. Last season, Rodgers surrendered his kick return duties to former Chicago Bear Devin Hester in Atlanta. But from 2012-13, Rodgers was the Falcons’ primary return man on kickoffs, totaling 1,167 yards on 48 returns."Max Power said:
By Clyde A. Speller
Not real good, not real bad.
A tad below average.
I hope I'm epically wrong, but I'm already in full flapgreen mode on the 2015 Bears. All these 1 year vet minimum contracts for talent that was meh years ago tell me management wants a clean slate to work with in 2016. They are going through the motions to make it look like the tank isn't in for 2015, but their goal for this year is to simply install the offensive/defensive schemes and evaluate what talent is on the roster. Then after the miserable season is over finally jettison Cutler and any other underperforming/salary cap anchors and start the true rebuild. And to be honest I'm OK with that. It's time to Bear Down and embrace the suck.
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I agree on this point. They are trying to be competitive while at the same time not wasting future cap space on bad contracts for 30+ y/o players (allen, cutler, jennings)... they need this years draft class to be above average (end up with at least 4 of the 6 picks being assets for future years)... and then in 2016 they need the same thing... if Pace can prove to be a good drafter the team will be in position to be perrenial cotnenders instead of perennial almost making the playoffs.... so the 1 year cheap vet deals shouldnt make anyone angry.That was 2 years ago, Chicago would be lucky if he could approach those numbers again.jagbag said:"In addition to his offensive skills, Rodgers could also be an asset on special teams. Last season, Rodgers surrendered his kick return duties to former Chicago Bear Devin Hester in Atlanta. But from 2012-13, Rodgers was the Falcons’ primary return man on kickoffs, totaling 1,167 yards on 48 returns."Max Power said:
By Clyde A. Speller
Not real good, not real bad.
A tad below average.
I hope I'm epically wrong, but I'm already in full flapgreen mode on the 2015 Bears. All these 1 year vet minimum contracts for talent that was meh years ago tell me management wants a clean slate to work with in 2016. They are going through the motions to make it look like the tank isn't in for 2015, but their goal for this year is to simply install the offensive/defensive schemes and evaluate what talent is on the roster. Then after the miserable season is over finally jettison Cutler and any other underperforming/salary cap anchors and start the true rebuild. And to be honest I'm OK with that. It's time to Bear Down and embrace the suck.
also, i am by no means an expert on comp picks... but if one of these vets has a stellar year and leaves in FA after the season would it not put the bears in position to get a comp pick or two? That seems the way the ravens can keep reloading by getting those extra mid round picks
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ditka85
Footballguy
That was 2 years ago, Chicago would be lucky if he could approach those numbers again.jagbag said:"In addition to his offensive skills, Rodgers could also be an asset on special teams. Last season, Rodgers surrendered his kick return duties to former Chicago Bear Devin Hester in Atlanta. But from 2012-13, Rodgers was the Falcons’ primary return man on kickoffs, totaling 1,167 yards on 48 returns."Max Power said:
By Clyde A. Speller
Not real good, not real bad.
A tad below average.
I hope I'm epically wrong, but I'm already in full flapgreen mode on the 2015 Bears. All these 1 year vet minimum contracts for talent that was meh years ago tell me management wants a clean slate to work with in 2016. They are going through the motions to make it look like the tank isn't in for 2015, but their goal for this year is to simply install the offensive/defensive schemes and evaluate what talent is on the roster. Then after the miserable season is over finally jettison Cutler and any other underperforming/salary cap anchors and start the true rebuild. And to be honest I'm OK with that. It's time to Bear Down and embrace the suck.
There's our rally cry for 2015, "Embrace the Suck!"
Statcruncher
Footballguy
That should have been for 2014 as well, but I was such a homer I really thought the Super Bowl was a possibility. Lol, blind homerism is so dumb.That was 2 years ago, Chicago would be lucky if he could approach those numbers again.jagbag said:"In addition to his offensive skills, Rodgers could also be an asset on special teams. Last season, Rodgers surrendered his kick return duties to former Chicago Bear Devin Hester in Atlanta. But from 2012-13, Rodgers was the Falcons’ primary return man on kickoffs, totaling 1,167 yards on 48 returns."Max Power said:
By Clyde A. Speller
Not real good, not real bad.
A tad below average.
I hope I'm epically wrong, but I'm already in full flapgreen mode on the 2015 Bears. All these 1 year vet minimum contracts for talent that was meh years ago tell me management wants a clean slate to work with in 2016. They are going through the motions to make it look like the tank isn't in for 2015, but their goal for this year is to simply install the offensive/defensive schemes and evaluate what talent is on the roster. Then after the miserable season is over finally jettison Cutler and any other underperforming/salary cap anchors and start the true rebuild. And to be honest I'm OK with that. It's time to Bear Down and embrace the suck.
msommer
Footballguy
Cutlers contract isn't prohibitive after this year. He's definitely tradeable next off season, or could be kept.
From the perspective of 2016 he'll make 17m of which 10 is guaranteed salary, cap hit 16m (due to amortization of restructure bonus), dead cap 13m - but if the guaranteed salary goes to someone else in a trade the dead cap for CHI is 3m - or a 13m saving. ETA: A further 6m guarantees in march 2013 but spotrac does not specify the date)
2017 the numbers are 15m/16m (dead cap 2m - but not for a new owner), nothing guaranteed
2018 20m, nothing guaranteed
2019 21.7m nothing guaranteed
From the perspective of 2016 he'll make 17m of which 10 is guaranteed salary, cap hit 16m (due to amortization of restructure bonus), dead cap 13m - but if the guaranteed salary goes to someone else in a trade the dead cap for CHI is 3m - or a 13m saving. ETA: A further 6m guarantees in march 2013 but spotrac does not specify the date)
2017 the numbers are 15m/16m (dead cap 2m - but not for a new owner), nothing guaranteed
2018 20m, nothing guaranteed
2019 21.7m nothing guaranteed
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3nOut
Footballguy
I don't feel strongly one way or another about this signing, but if they were to sign someone with a little more upside that would get you excited, then you would have to pay more and sign them for more Han one year. Then we'd have people complaining and saying that the FO is not being smart about their signings/contracts. I don't think this signing hurts them in the long run, which to me is the most important thing right now.
flapgreen
Footballguy
Good OLB signing. RT @Rand_Getlin: The #Bears announce they've signed LB Sam Acho to a one-year contract.
http://www.chicitysports.com/2015/04/01/the-chicago-bears-stable-of-linebackers-increases-with-sam-acho/
http://www.chicitysports.com/2015/04/01/the-chicago-bears-stable-of-linebackers-increases-with-sam-acho/
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flapgreen
Footballguy
What they're doing is smart. They don't have a ton of cap space but they're filling in with guys who could very well start with one year contracts. They will have plenty of cap space next year and can re-sign any of these one year guys who contribute. It's a great way to implement a new system.
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