Pat Kirwin and Tim Ryan on Moving the Chains are head and shoulders above the rest. Most of the time on other shows the hosts just regurgitate the same stuff over and over and don't provide any new information. umm, umm, Jerry, umm, you know, umm, Rice, umm, is, umm, you know, umm, horrible, umm, umm, as, umm, a, you know, umm, speaker. Nice guy, interesting comments, but I can't even listen to him anymore. I just turn 124 off when he's on. Somebody tell Randy Cross that nobody cares what TV show he watched last night. Either that or move him over to lifestyle (or whatever the equivalent channel is). Moving the Chains also gets the best people to interview and asks the best questions. They ask detailed questions and get interesting info out of their guests while respecting the players/coaches and the game.