The new owners of the AFFL would like to advertise with us this year. It's my understanding that they've cleared up past winners and everything is square now. Anyone know any different than that?
J
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AFFL Question (1 Viewer)
- Thread starter Joe Bryant
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Joe,
I'll just reiterate what I said in the AFFL thread... the current owners of AFFL allowed me to use my unpaid winnings from the previous year (when the previous owner didn't pay) as credit towards purchasing teams last year... I won 10,0000 and they paid me on time... I will be competing in AFFL again this year
I'll just reiterate what I said in the AFFL thread... the current owners of AFFL allowed me to use my unpaid winnings from the previous year (when the previous owner didn't pay) as credit towards purchasing teams last year... I won 10,0000 and they paid me on time... I will be competing in AFFL again this year
massraider
Footballguy
at this thread being in the shark pool while the thread on FBG members being ripped off was banished to the empty forum!
rexs revenge
Footballguy
I had the same experience as jjammer.
Credit was applied from 2007 teams, and winnings were paid out to me from 2008 teams.
Credit was applied from 2007 teams, and winnings were paid out to me from 2008 teams.
Thanks for the feedback there Guys.J
Revis Island
Footballguy
No freakin way... not again...
SF80407
Posts: 3
Joined: 11/20/2009
Status: offline I received a check for 1/4 ($450) of my $1,800 winnings yesterday.
The rest is pending the sale of "two properties" as there is a "liquidity" problem at the moment.
Commissioner Bob
Administrator
Posts: 539
Joined: 9/22/2006
Status: offline First things first. We are not like the previous owner. We are not looking for investors or looking to sell. We have the assets. We need to liquidate them to get the cash. We are giving partial payments to show that we are not like the other owner,(If I remember correctly he did not pay anyone). We tried to do the right thing and issue credits for all 07 prize winners and there should be hardly any credits left over from 07 winners going into 2010. All 2008 prize winners were paid and so will 2009 prize winners. So I strongly do apologize to anyone who has ill feelings towards us. We are not going anywhere! All winners will be paid!
http://forums.affl.com/tm.asp?m=1148
I think the top prize was $60,000 this year. Here's hoping this gets resolved quickly.
SF80407
Posts: 3
Joined: 11/20/2009
Status: offline I received a check for 1/4 ($450) of my $1,800 winnings yesterday.
The rest is pending the sale of "two properties" as there is a "liquidity" problem at the moment.
Commissioner Bob
Administrator
Posts: 539
Joined: 9/22/2006
Status: offline First things first. We are not like the previous owner. We are not looking for investors or looking to sell. We have the assets. We need to liquidate them to get the cash. We are giving partial payments to show that we are not like the other owner,(If I remember correctly he did not pay anyone). We tried to do the right thing and issue credits for all 07 prize winners and there should be hardly any credits left over from 07 winners going into 2010. All 2008 prize winners were paid and so will 2009 prize winners. So I strongly do apologize to anyone who has ill feelings towards us. We are not going anywhere! All winners will be paid!
http://forums.affl.com/tm.asp?m=1148
I think the top prize was $60,000 this year. Here's hoping this gets resolved quickly.
Ruffrodys05
IBL Representative
This was uncalled for. There was no need to go there.I hope everything works out well for all AFFL winners.disclaimer: NOT an AFFL participant
cobalt_27
Footballguy
You're offended by what part, exactly? You were around, right, when this all went down, and Joe decided to suppress the discussion by moving it to the least-trafficked subforum? Yet, the issue re-emerged with good visibility here when he wanted to investigate a financial opportunity. Seems appropriate to speculate whether the past is destined to repeat itself.
Team Legacy
Footballguy
I had Wade and Bob (the owners of the new AFFL) on our High Stakes Football show back in June for a special investigative report on the AFFL and the new ownership. The June Investigative Interview
I feel like we as high stakes players need to hear from Wade and Bob, to understand this turn of events. I'll reach out to them this week and I'll bet you they will be more than happy to come on to the show friday night to better understand the current situation. I'll update everyone later in the week.
I hope that this works out, especially since I personally know the grand prize winner of the $65,000+.
FULL DISCLOSURE:
I was also owed $3,300 from the previous AFFL owners. The NEW owners (Wade and Bob) had been giving free credits to try and do right for the wronged players from 2007. They gave me 2 credits for Platinum leagues for 2009 contests, valued at $2,800. I thought that was a more than fair compromise considering the situation. I signed up for the Platinums, but none filled after that point, so they credited me back with Gold leagues at $600 a piece, however only one of which filled from the ones I signed up for, so I netted a $600 credit for 2009. (not sure what their plans are for my 2010, but I'm hoping they'll pull through)
I feel like we as high stakes players need to hear from Wade and Bob, to understand this turn of events. I'll reach out to them this week and I'll bet you they will be more than happy to come on to the show friday night to better understand the current situation. I'll update everyone later in the week.
I hope that this works out, especially since I personally know the grand prize winner of the $65,000+.
FULL DISCLOSURE:
I was also owed $3,300 from the previous AFFL owners. The NEW owners (Wade and Bob) had been giving free credits to try and do right for the wronged players from 2007. They gave me 2 credits for Platinum leagues for 2009 contests, valued at $2,800. I thought that was a more than fair compromise considering the situation. I signed up for the Platinums, but none filled after that point, so they credited me back with Gold leagues at $600 a piece, however only one of which filled from the ones I signed up for, so I netted a $600 credit for 2009. (not sure what their plans are for my 2010, but I'm hoping they'll pull through)
phthalatemagic
Footballguy
Ruffrodys05
IBL Representative
We have now discussed this issue via PM.......thanks for the input.........you are correct...........................................Spades - is - Spades...........It's OK to call a spade a spade once in a while.
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perry147
Footballguy
I got a question; what made you think it would be any different this year?
Sorry but a huge whiff with that theory. The discussion got moved to the other forum because it's not Shark Pool material. Same reason this one will be moved. They sent in an inquiry about wanting to advertise last year and I asked here if people had been paid as I do not want to advertise if they still owed money.
Cue the "same as day 1" responses.J
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cobalt_27
Footballguy
Huge whiff in your theory: What makes it Shark Pool material to ask if people have been paid, but it's not Shark Pool material for other people to discuss that they have not been paid?Let me ask you this: Are there not tons of questions allowed in the Shark Pool about CBS, MFL, ESPN, Yahoo, etc when folks are discussing leagues to join? Yet, your history has been to treat the AFFL issue with such delicacy and kid gloves--and now with hypocrisy and inconsistency--that it raised questions then, just as it does now, what you are doing. It's your board, Joe, and you have every right to be as hypocritical as you want and when you want. But, I don't think it's beyond a lot of us pointing it out, and you sinking the thread you created in the Shark Pool away to the LFL subforum is totally awesome.Joe Bryant said:Sorry but a huge whiff with that theory. The discussion got moved to the other forum because it's not Shark Pool material. Same reason this one will be moved. They sent in an inquiry about wanting to advertise last year and I asked here if people had been paid as I do not want to advertise if they still owed money.cobalt_27 said:Cue the "same as day 1" responses.J
Same as Day 1, Joe. No doubt.
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cobalt_27
Footballguy
Remember, Joe friggin' started this gd thread. And, for the same reason that WCOFF and other league threads are routinely in the Shark Pool. Joe started this one because he, like other people who wanted maximum exposure, started the thread where most people who discuss football go. But, as Cassius astutely noted, it's only when people (appropriately) expressed some criticism towards a sponsor (or potential sponsor), he banishes it to one of the least-visited subforum. Shady.rock753 said:Why did this tread even start in the shark pool?lol when the answers to his question turn out bad for AFFL, thread gets moved to LFL
Amused to Death
Footballguy
I agree it seems pretty hypocritical when Joe him self started the thread in the SP looking for favorable comments for monetary gain. Got moved when it didn't turn out so well. Then turns around and says it wasn't SP materialRemember, Joe friggin' started this gd thread. And, for the same reason that WCOFF and other league threads are routinely in the Shark Pool. Joe started this one because he, like other people who wanted maximum exposure, started the thread where most people who discuss football go. But, as Cassius astutely noted, it's only when people (appropriately) expressed some criticism towards a sponsor (or potential sponsor), he banishes it to one of the least-visited subforum. Shady.rock753 said:Why did this tread even start in the shark pool?lol when the answers to his question turn out bad for AFFL, thread gets moved to LFL
Are we now supposed to report all threads that relate to MFL, CBS or other sites as inappropriate SP material?
cobalt_27
Footballguy
My point to him, exactly. He states that he has 1 standard at one day, another standard the next day, etc. We ALWAYS discuss league websites, but this does not seem to fit his current criteria of (a) NFL News or (b) Analysis.I agree it seems pretty hypocritical when Joe him self started the thread in the SP looking for favorable comments for monetary gain. Got moved when it didn't turn out so well. Then turns around and says it wasn't SP materialRemember, Joe friggin' started this gd thread. And, for the same reason that WCOFF and other league threads are routinely in the Shark Pool. Joe started this one because he, like other people who wanted maximum exposure, started the thread where most people who discuss football go. But, as Cassius astutely noted, it's only when people (appropriately) expressed some criticism towards a sponsor (or potential sponsor), he banishes it to one of the least-visited subforum. Shady.rock753 said:Why did this tread even start in the shark pool?lol when the answers to his question turn out bad for AFFL, thread gets moved to LFL
From what I PMd cobaltI agree it seems pretty hypocritical when Joe him self started the thread in the SP looking for favorable comments for monetary gain. Got moved when it didn't turn out so well. Then turns around and says it wasn't SP materialRemember, Joe friggin' started this gd thread. And, for the same reason that WCOFF and other league threads are routinely in the Shark Pool. Joe started this one because he, like other people who wanted maximum exposure, started the thread where most people who discuss football go. But, as Cassius astutely noted, it's only when people (appropriately) expressed some criticism towards a sponsor (or potential sponsor), he banishes it to one of the least-visited subforum. Shady.rock753 said:Why did this tread even start in the shark pool?lol when the answers to his question turn out bad for AFFL, thread gets moved to LFL
There was nothing to not "turn out well". I asked a question (bending the rules of what I'd like to see in the Shark Pool) and when I got the answer I was looking for, it got moved to this forum after it was brought to my attention.J
cobalt_27
Footballguy
And, my suggestion to Joe is that we are long overdue for a Fantasy Football Talk subforum. Since it appears the SP has come under stricter standards for content, there is much less that would be considered appropriate for posting there now (e.g., scoring systems, league management sites, WCOFF/AFFL stuff, etc.). These are routinely asked about and discussed, but not fit the current criteria for the SP.So, let's get a FFT subforum, and we clear up about 90% of the inconsistency issues.
buck naked
Footballguy
The AFFL situation is absolutely not resolved. The AFFL has failed to pay the overall winner. Moreover, after giving the owners of AFFL a viable way to resolve this, the owners refused to move off their position and provide any security that the winner would get paid.
Lawsuit to be filed this week. More to follow.
Lawsuit to be filed this week. More to follow.
Sudoku_in_the_Bathtub
Footballguy
It's a shame this thread isn't in the Shark Pool.I'm quite certain there's more to AFFL/Mr. Bryant (Joe..not Jon) than simply just moving the thread to here.
Leroy's Aces
Footballguy
A lawsuit was filed yesterday...details including the actual complaint to follow later today.
Team Legacy
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