DoubleG
Footballguy
If Elway liked the way Orton quietly stepped aside when Tebow took over...yes. Keep in mind - all GMs have to attract FA of their own at some point.
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Tim Tebow - 8.17.21 Waived By Jacksonville (1 Viewer)
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Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
We can cross off #2 and #3 also. 4-1 as a starter. That provides a lot of assurance and eases locker room tensions.
#1 is the reason.
If I had to pick one owner I would say Pat Bowlen, I'm pretty sure he has a history of accommodating players who want out. I would say they did it for #1. #2 and #3 don't make sense as all the players are in love with Tebow and Orton is not a tension creator. Also I would say #4 might be part of it if Orton approached ownership about it, citing #1 for a good reason for them to do it too.
shnikies
Footballguy
Denver also plays Chicago and Kansas City.Oakland also plays three teams that could possibly claim Orton (Miami, Chicago, Kansas City) so perhaps it's amove. (lol ignoring the fact that the Raiders play two of those teams as well).-QG
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
I cannot wait for the N.E. @ Denver game in week 15.
Seeing exactly what scheme Belichick comes up with against Tebow will be fascinating.
Seeing exactly what scheme Belichick comes up with against Tebow will be fascinating.
This is exactly what the dudes on the radio were talking about today. Orton has been a true professional since his arrival in Denver.
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
I actually meant Denver after the LOL part.Denver also plays Chicago and Kansas City.Oakland also plays three teams that could possibly claim Orton (Miami, Chicago, Kansas City) so perhaps it's a
Fixed now.-QG
glumpy
breeze
I've always liked Elway but until the Orton release all his statements just seemed like he was expecting Tebow to fail. I had the impression that he only put him in under pressure from the fans. I was really surprised to see Orton out there.Elway seems like a genuinely good human being. I love how he's supported Tebow while all of the naysayers have bashed him. It's good to know that you care more about winning than getting Tebow out at all costs, even if it means losing.
DoubleG
Footballguy
Doubly so when you realize that KC was the only likely team that would put in a claim (and have a chance, as they had priority over the other teams that realistically would have). Ironically, I think it actually just screws KC in the long run - so they'll end up 6-10 or 7-9 instead of 4-12 or 5-11...worse draft pick.
shnikies
Footballguy
I'm more interested to the offensive gameplan for the Broncos in that game That might be the first time we see a majority or around every other possession of no huddle spread offense like they should have been doing all along.
glumpy
breeze
Think it's possible? That would be awesome.
flapgreen
Footballguy
I hope he gets caught under a boulder in Colorado and has to cut off his head to survive.I've always liked Elway but until the Orton release all his statements just seemed like he was expecting Tebow to fail. I had the impression that he only put him in under pressure from the fans. I was really surprised to see Orton out there.Elway seems like a genuinely good human being. I love how he's supported Tebow while all of the naysayers have bashed him. It's good to know that you care more about winning than getting Tebow out at all costs, even if it means losing.
shnikies
Footballguy
That might be a little extreme. How about the Broncos make the playoffs? That would be just as painful. It would be really easy for them to move on from a quarterback that inherited a 1-4 team and then led them to the playoffs. The city of Denver would love that.I hope he gets caught under a boulder in Colorado and has to cut off his head to survive.I've always liked Elway but until the Orton release all his statements just seemed like he was expecting Tebow to fail. I had the impression that he only put him in under pressure from the fans. I was really surprised to see Orton out there.Elway seems like a genuinely good human being. I love how he's supported Tebow while all of the naysayers have bashed him. It's good to know that you care more about winning than getting Tebow out at all costs, even if it means losing.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
He just wins.
Elway is like the Cleveland Indians owner in Major League who wanted to sabotage her team, but they kept winning anyway.
Elway is like the Cleveland Indians owner in Major League who wanted to sabotage her team, but they kept winning anyway.
flapgreen
Footballguy
PizzaDeliveryGuy
extra sausage
I hate that ### #### song!!!
Hairy Snowman
Footballguy
Can hardly wait to hear what the commentators have to say now. He is making some people look really bad.
For a college system that could NEVER work in the NFL, they sure are winning alot.
For a college system that could NEVER work in the NFL, they sure are winning alot.
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
Still terrible.
belljr
Footballguy
Releasing orton was actually a class move by denverI've always liked Elway but until the Orton qrelease all his statements just seemed like he was expecting Tebow to fail. I had the impression that he only put him in under pressure from the fans. I was really surprised to see Orton out there.Elway seems like a genuinely good human being. I love how he's supported Tebow while all of the naysayers have bashed him. It's good to know that you care more about winning than getting Tebow out at all costs, even if it means losing.
wiscstlatlmia
Footballguy
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
I wonder why the defense is playing better.
Could be the first player to win MVP with a QB rating below 80....
PizzaDeliveryGuy
extra sausage
Because of Tebow. Duh.
Courtjester
The Town Drunk
Hairy Snowman
Footballguy
Couldn't be a stronger running game, could it?Or could it?5-1. Argue how much he sucks, but he doesn't turn it over and he runs for more yards than many starting running backs.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Stronger running game, better time of possession, and simply playing harder for a guy they believe in.Laugh at that all you want. It's true.
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
I think we all know in our hearts why Denver's entire team is suddenly playing better.Let us pray.
FavreCo
Footballguy
Lets give the defense some credit. Check he offensive output of the opponents. 15, 24, 10, 13, 10. That is a much bigger factor in their wins.
az_prof
Footballguy
Yes. He won't be mistaken for Tom Brady anytime soon, but he definitely threw the ball well today. There was only 1 really bad pass and there were a number of passes his receivers dropped. He did have great protection though and he won't always have that. But I do think that the threat of the run to some extent holds the pass rush in check.
timschochet
Footballguy
Tebow with 22 rushing attempts today. Most in the Superbowl era.
saying the Bronco defenders were simply not playing hard because Kyle Orton was their QB might be one of the most ridiculous arguments I've seen yet. Tebow has taken care of the ball I do give him that though I absolutely do not buy the argument that he is accurate with his inaccuracy as some seem to be saying, like he can never throw to defenders. that INT rate will rise soon enough. the Bronco D was the main reason this team won the last two games, Tim Tebow was a small part of both wins. It's not fair to the defense to act like Tebow willed the team to win
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
If this offense from the Stone Age somehow wins a Super Bowl (slim chance, granted), do teams try to copy it?
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Did I actually say that?
moleculo
Footballguy
oh, absolutely. I saw on more than one play where the Chargers dropped 7 into protection, and the 4 down defensive linemen were basically playing QB spy...they didn't even try to beat the man in front of them, they just held their ground to keep Tebow in check when he inevitably decides to run around.Honestly, that's probably the formula to beat him.
Defenses play a lot better when they can count on their offense not to screw up. Not turning the ball over his huge too. Nothing pretty about it, but it is mistake free ball.
FavreCo
Footballguy
Absolutely some (the really desperate and dumb ones) would but that is not going to happen unless this D morphs into one of the greats of all-time. GB slapped these guys around once already and would again, however Pitt will have their way with this team before that ever happens.
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
All the teams with a Tebow do.
FavreCo
Footballguy
Really huge.
