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How drunk was Namath during the halftime interview (1 Viewer)
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Grilled Cheesehead
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Again, I enjoyed the whole namath thing, but aren't you judging those who are judging Namath? Who the heck are YOU to judge "so-and-so-posters" decision to judge Joe Namath? You said "to judge him on it is not right". OK, Pot. What you should have said, according to your own post, is "What you did by judging Joe Namath is not something I agree with." Now me, I have no problem judging you, and have never stated that people should not make judgments, so I feel fine saying that you made a couple of idiotic statements here and may well be a jack*ss. But given what you've said about not judging people, you should just stick to saying that you don't agree with me.
I love it when people do themselves in with their own words.Grilled Cheesehead
Footballguy
You give the man too much credit.
JAA
Footballguy
Exactly my point. What if it was, would you still feel the same way?
It does matter, and that is exaclty what LIBERAL MEDIA does.
Thats not how I saw it, you are entitled to your opinion
Riiight, you have the right to make a judgement on someone like Joe Namath ... now where did I leave my stereo-type bag o tricksJAA
JAA
Footballguy
Yes I am, though I see myself as a marytr in Joe Namaths name.However, you do agree with me?Again, I enjoyed the whole namath thing, but aren't you judging those who are judging Namath? Who the heck are YOU to judge "so-and-so-posters" decision to judge Joe Namath? You said "to judge him on it is not right". OK, Pot. What you should have said, according to your own post, is "What you did by judging Joe Namath is not something I agree with." Now me, I have no problem judging you, and have never stated that people should not make judgments, so I feel fine saying that you made a couple of idiotic statements here and may well be a jack*ss. But given what you've said about not judging people, you should just stick to saying that you don't agree with me.
I love it when people do themselves in with their own words.
JAA
Mungo Chubb-Baggins
Footballguy
He wasn't drunk. His panty hose were too tight.
ChromeWeasel
Footballguy
Actually I'm just a 29 year-old kid. But when I've gotten that drunk and made a spectacle of myself I've felt embarrassed about it. If it's on New Years eve at a big party then I wouldnt think too much of it. But if I got like that at my sister's wedding and hit on the bridesmaids with my girlfriend sitting at the next table I'd have some apologizing to do.If I was on national TV at the time and MARRIED I'd really feel like a total heel. It wouldnt matter if I won 10 superbowls and had half a million fans defending me, I'd know I embarrassed myself and my family and I'd feel regret for making such a bad decision.That's just me though. Maybe if I was a Jet fan I'd have to feel different. As it is I don't really care about Joe's career since I never saw any of it. Right now Namath is just a punch line to me for the most drunken interview I've ever seen in football. I have the whole thing TIVO'd and we laughed our asses off at Joe hours after the game was over. Before the Superbowl we will probably put it back on again and laugh at him some more.I'm sorry if he's anyone's hero, but to me and people younger he seems like a total joke.
JAA
Footballguy
1. I am not on a fishing trip2. I have made my own mistakes3. Joe had a fair amount to drink (though I would not call him drunk but my 65 year mom and aunt would)4. You have no right to condem Joe for what may have happened between him and Suzie because you do not know their relationship/friendship or Joe as a person ... periodJAAPS For what it is worth I would take 1 joe Namath over ten thousand RMoss, Deion Sanders, Willie Green, etc.
PAO
Footballguy
Who is he trying to impress? I guess the "manly" thing for him to do would be to go in front of the camera and spew out tired cliche after tired cliche and not be who he really is. These two aren't co-workers, so I think it would be a tough sell for sexual harassment. This type of exchange goes on millions of times a day between men and women. Do I think it's acceptable in the workplace? No. But this wasn't a workplace and if she had acted any bit uncomfortable then this would have been an entirely different story.I find it laughable that you lose respect for Joe because he gets a little drunk and flirts with a lady, but somehow forget to include his womanizing ways in your assesment of him before this incident. I don't think Joe really cares that you lost respect for him because he wouldn't want anybody with such an entirely opposite view of life admiring him in the first place.I really doubt his wife cares if she stuck around this long. Some men actually have wives that understand a little payful flirting doesn't hurt anybody.
BS. Im younger than you, hate the jets, and I think it was awesome. To take your analogy to the proper place, if I saw my buddy hitting on a bridemaid in front of his girlfriend I would laugh my rear off. I sure as heck wouldnt tell him how ashamed I was of his making a spectacle of himself.Some people just wouldnt know a good time if it was sitting on Joe Namaths face.
Grilled Cheesehead
Footballguy
JAA - Not sure what I'm agreeing with you on. Yes, I enjoyed the Namath interview. I hate that people are so sensitive to this stuff. I also think everybody makes judgments all the time, and it is my opinion that people have the right to express their judgments. I have no problem with you disagreeing with someone's opinion, just that you attacked their right to do so.And I like the bible and I am a republican, so you ticked me off a bit.Yes I am, though I see myself as a marytr in Joe Namaths name.However, you do agree with me?Again, I enjoyed the whole namath thing, but aren't you judging those who are judging Namath? Who the heck are YOU to judge "so-and-so-posters" decision to judge Joe Namath? You said "to judge him on it is not right". OK, Pot. What you should have said, according to your own post, is "What you did by judging Joe Namath is not something I agree with." Now me, I have no problem judging you, and have never stated that people should not make judgments, so I feel fine saying that you made a couple of idiotic statements here and may well be a jack*ss. But given what you've said about not judging people, you should just stick to saying that you don't agree with me.
I love it when people do themselves in with their own words.
JAA
JAA
Footballguy
Exactly ... that is how you would feel. Joe has lived a different life than you and you dont have a right to judge him on his actions. He was intoxicated, not drunk, but buzzed.RE your wedding example:What were your intentions? Some people are much better flirts than others. Were you trying to score or be a funny guy? Would you have crossed the line given the opportunity with the bridesmaid?I dont know if Joe was kidding, but maybe he was. If you want to know if Suzie was offended you should ask her. At this moment in time you are saying that you would not have done the same things Joe did. So ####### what ... you are not Joe Namath, I am not you, you have your own life and get to make your own decisions. Just like Joe and I get to. be happy with your life and dont worry about Joe, he is a classy guy whether or not you like it.Eagles fan,JAA
Grilled Cheesehead
Footballguy
Eric, no need to delete your last post. I thought it was funny. Unlike JAA, I think you have the right to express your judgment - even though I disagree.
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JAA
Footballguy
Fair enough, it was a shock value post.I think you summed up what I want to say, but I am still a bit more edgie on the topic than you. I am really sick and tired of people openly judging others and the liberal media making more out of things than need to be.I see a lot of that here and it pisses me off because Joe could have been drunkingly joking about what he said, and/or he could have been flirting. I doubt it was serious, but mayb he and his wife have and open relationship ... I know I dont know, but GB Joe and Joe just being Joe not some cookie-cutter asswipe up in the booth.JAA
Eric
Footballguy
I'm a computer programmer. If you're not a computer programmer, you have no right to judge me when I ask the secretary at work to kiss me in front of the guys while my wife sits at home with the kids. You have not walked a mile in a computer programmer's shoes, therefore you have no idea what our social mores are.That's how logical your statement is.
playin4beer
Footballguy
Wow, some of you people need to lighten up! Could it be that deep down you're jealous it wasn't you hitting on Suzy? I'm sure today he's thinking about it, or watching the replay and thinking and going "ah ####!" Everybody that's ripping the guy must not have ever made an ### out of themselves after drinking a little too much. I have and I guarantee I will again in the future (probably tonight at the bar watching the game!) GB Joe! I just wish I could've been drinking with him at the game, and I don't even like the J-E-T-S. Wonder what Jets94 would say about this?
JAA
Footballguy
Im a Software Engineer and it would be improper for me to ask the secretary to kiss me in the office.Game-Set-Match:At our x-mas party this year the company only gave 2 drink tickets to everyone. I told my co-workers that I would be 'pimping' myself for drink tickets. I would give a kiss on the cheek to anyone who gave me a ticket. I made 8 tickets and thankfully no guys gave me tickets. My wife didnt have a problem with it, my boss didnt have a problem with it, my coworkers didnt have a problem with it, why do you have a problem with it?JAA
PAO
Footballguy
A) They were not at work. If they were, I think it would be imposssible to find someone who would support Joe.B) Because I am sure that you and the Namaths are so close since you know what they both find acceptable, you'd realize that Joe is just a flirt by nature and does this all time even while his wife is right beside him. She might just accept this as Joe being Joe and knows that it would never go past that point and she just feels very happy that she has such a great husband who is such a great dad and would always be there for the family, even though he likes to flirt with the ladies every once in a while.Your statement of "logic" is full of assumptions about how Joe's relationship is and what his intentions are.
Eric
Footballguy
Close but no cigar.While the situations are anecdotaly similar, they are very different. You were in a familiar environment with familiar people and your wife apparently knew what your intentions were.Suzie was an interviewer, Joe was an interviewee. The way it works nearly all of the time is that interviews are prearranged, so Joe knew about it...but chose to get drunk anyway. Suzie was asking him questions and he was answering them with "kiss me". Suzie cut the interview short after he did this twice.It may be subjective, but it is my opinion that Joe was being disrespectful, and it wasn't fair to Suzie, Joe's family, or Joe's fans.
Grilled Cheesehead
Footballguy
As far as I know, Namath was divorced about 4 years ago. His wife left him and it hit him real hard. Not sure if he's remarried, but I doubt it.
Eric
Footballguy
Isn't yours? How do you know what kind of person Joe is? Like I said before, this is all very subjective. I'm looking at it differently than you are. Either one of us could be correct, or we could both be partially correct. I don't really care. I simply discussing my point of view. I don't appreciate people like you coming in here telling me that I have no right to discuss my opinion just because I don't know Joe.
JAA
Footballguy
From what I remember on the ESPN Namath stuff I saw was that Joe always a ladies man, but never tried to do the right thing, the right thing according to society and media. He was himself, a great Qb, a ladies man who loved the spotlight, and now a guy who likes to party.Sign me up to one of his partiesJust wait till the republicans and their "conservative family values" get ahold of it
Eric
Footballguy
I never claimed to know all the facts. What if it is my opinion that Joe should be condemned based on his remarks and actions?Sure, he was a great football player -- one of the best -- but that does not exempt him from recognizing acceptable human behavior. It is my opinion that hitting on some poor chick trying to do her job is not acceptable.
PAO
Footballguy
My assumptions were for dramatic affect.Please refer to where I said you don't have any right to express your opinion?
I'm just pointing out how fla\/\/ed your opinion is of the man. You seem a little to willing to lose respect for someone over an "incident" that you know none of the detailsI just find it odd that you're willing to take a situation that you acknowledge to know nothing about, except what you saw on tv, and make these huge value and moral judgements about a man and his situation, who again you acknowledge to not really know at all.
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Eric
Footballguy
You were inferring that since I was not a close person friend of the Namath family, that it was illogical of me to say that his statement of "I want to kiss you" was uncalled for.Someone earlier on this thread said that Joe was a class act and was ALWAYS respectful of others. That is the main point I am disagreeing with. If Joe is truly respectful of others, he wouldn't have acted that way. If it really was an 'inside joke', Suzie wouldn't have cut the interview like that. Those are my observations, and I've made my opinions known on the matter.Please refer to where I said you don't have any right to express your opinion?
JAA
Footballguy
I diagree with your assumptions in that statement. Personally I dont think he was hitting on her, and since you cant prove he was, we cant argue about it.I think Namath was being friendly. Seriosly, I think Namath walked away from Suzie right after the interview and went back to the HOT CHICKS in his booth.ormaybe some of the 40 year green guys put him up to snagging a kiss from Suzie during the interview. GB the ole football club
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Grilled Cheesehead
Footballguy
Joe: Hey guys, remember when I guaranteed our Super Bowl win? Well guess what? I guarantee I'll get Suzie Kolber to kiss me on TV!I diagree with your assumptions in that statement. Personally I dont think he was hitting on her, and since you cant prove he was, we cant argue about it.I think Namath was being friendly. Seriosly, I think Namath walked away from Suzie right after the interview and went back to the HOT CHICKS in his booth.ormaybe some of the 40 year green guys put him up to snagging a kiss from Suzie during the interview. GB the ole football club
Holy Schneikes
Footballguy
Public drunkeness can be funny. Joe Namath can be funny. That interview was very funny. I'd rather watch that interview than a lot of other interviews I've seen. I don't think any serious harm was done to anyone. I've been drunk and said things I regretted later. OK, all that said...On a personal level, I don't know any of these guys from Adam. They might be great guys, or they might be idiots. On a case-by-case basis I'll probably never really know for sure. All I have to JUDGE them on is their public appearances which may or may not give you any real insight into their character.Based on THIS publc appearance alone, I'd say Joe Namath is an idiot. It isn't too bright to go on national television that hammered up. It WAS mildy inappropriate for him to say what he said on national television - it didn't really hurt anybody (except maybe his family) but it made him look like a moron. IF he's currently married, it DOES show a lack of respect for his wife - there is no question in my mind about that. It was funny, but I still don't think it was the right thing to do. I also think that if my sister's husband did it I might want to kick his ###.
roadkill1292
Footballguy
Who let the f'n puritans in here? Get out. Get out now. We watch football in here and that includes drunken ex-quarterbacks making fools of themselves. That's funny stuff.Go on over to the curly bored if you want to get all huffy.
Sam Quentin
Footballguy
We should be careful to get out of an experience only the wisdomthat is in it- and stop there; lest we be like the cat that sits down ona hot stove lid. She will never sit down on a hot stove lid again-and that is well; but also she will never sit down on a cold oneany more.-- Mark Twain
ericttspikes
Footballguy
I think a lot of people here might be too young to remember Broadway Joe in his heyday. I'm suprised he was restrained enough not to jam his tounge down her throat. That is the dudes rep, always has been: huge party animal and really, really happy (I loved that). Either love him or hate him, but I gotta think that is him, and I would believe people close to him accept him for it. I'm sure most of his fans do.I think I'd rather have Joe be an open lush and letch than a closet one. There are so many personalities who go out of there way to pull the wool over the publics eyes...O.J. always seemed like a really nice guy to me.
kupcho1
Footballguy
Rusty Shackleford
Footballguy
She WAS working while conducting the interview. I'm not saying I think Joe did a terrible thing (part of sports nowadays is entertainment, and THAT was as entertaining as it gets) but she was definitely working when Joe did (or did not) cross the line.
Number one, he isn't married anymore. Number 2 his kids are teenagers now, and I don't think he did anything wrong. He was celebrating with his fellow jet club members, had several drinks, got hammered. The interview wasn't planned, they saw him and decided to get a few words. Have you guys every been to a football game? He wasn't being disrespectful, he was flirting and hammered at the time. You guys dissect everything way to much. Joe for being himself and having a good time"My name is Joe Namath. It's classy for me, a man who has a wife and two daughters, to be hitting on a chick in front of a national audience. I was respectful to Suzie, of course I was! How could you NOT call me a class act? I mean, Suzie's not a REAL journalist, right? Just another sideline bimbo for me to hit on. You know what I mean? It's the sixties, I'm Broadway Joe, I'm wearing this dapper full length fur coat -- what chick WOULDN'T want to kiss me? Oh boy am I happy!"
You dorks who get your panties in a bunch over anything. Just because your parents were complainers, doesn't mean you have to be too. Similar threads
