VD by a mile12 Team PPR league Team A gave: Anquan Boldin Team B gave: Vernon Davis
I had to go look this up, as it seemed incorrect to me. In my 12 team dynasty league our 4th overall picks have been:I will say this for the trade - the 1.04 seems to be a bust every year.It is not a deal I ever would have done, but it is not that horrible. I could see someone like EBF making this trade - if one believes Richardson is a mortal lock to succeed in the NFL, then one could justify giving up two injured players whom we have no guarantee will ever fully recover from their injuries, plus what normally is a 2nd tier 1st round rookie pick. Also, while the 2.11 and 3.03 picks can be viewed as throw-ins, one might get lucky with them.However, Charles seems likely to at some point to return close to 100% from his ACL injury and if that is the case, then the transaction is a wash at best and that is assuming that Richardson is not only everything as advertised, but also lands in the right situation (see Jonathan Stewart). And then the trade would become a loser if Team A also hits big on the 1.04 pick and/or Leshore fully recovers from his Achilles injury and succeeds in Detroit. Again, I don't like this trade, but it has the potential to work out well for Team B.Doubt it takes 2 years for regret to set in. Horrible trade. And I'm a big Richardson fan.Terrible trade by Team B. He's going to really regret that in two years.Team A gave: Josh Johnson/Barden/1.01/2.11/3.03/4.06
Team B gave: Charles/Leshoure/1.04
I would think Harvin could fetch more than that??12 team standard PPR league.2012 pick 1.07 for Harvin
I didn't make this trade, but I am a Harvin owner. I had been trying to sell him for quite a while now, as I have some depth at WR. It seems every time I offer him up, the owner I am dealing with says they have no interest. I was hoping to get some good value for a great draft pick I made with a high second that year. No one wants him, and they always bring up the migraines as a reason. Who knows? I know I am glad I kept him.I would think Harvin could fetch more than that??12 team standard PPR league.2012 pick 1.07 for Harvin
That deal makes no sense for the guy trading away Harvin. Is he crossing his fingers that the guy he drafts at 1.07 is as productive as Harvin has been?I would think Harvin could fetch more than that??12 team standard PPR league.2012 pick 1.07 for Harvin
He has great depth at WR, but is shaky at QB. So my only guess is that he is banking on Griffin being there at 1.07.That deal makes no sense for the guy trading away Harvin. Is he crossing his fingers that the guy he drafts at 1.07 is as productive as Harvin has been?I would think Harvin could fetch more than that??12 team standard PPR league.2012 pick 1.07 for Harvin
For me personally, the Forte/Smith/1.05 side got a great deal off of AP's name value.12-team PPR AP / StevieJ / M.Bush for Forte / Steve Smith CAR / 1.5Curious who you guys think won that one....
Jones shouldn't have lasted until 4 - it was Williams, Leshoure or Little in my leagues.2010: Jahvid BestI had to go look this up, as it seemed incorrect to me. In my 12 team dynasty league our 4th overall picks have been:I will say this for the trade - the 1.04 seems to be a bust every year.It is not a deal I ever would have done, but it is not that horrible. I could see someone like EBF making this trade - if one believes Richardson is a mortal lock to succeed in the NFL, then one could justify giving up two injured players whom we have no guarantee will ever fully recover from their injuries, plus what normally is a 2nd tier 1st round rookie pick. Also, while the 2.11 and 3.03 picks can be viewed as throw-ins, one might get lucky with them.However, Charles seems likely to at some point to return close to 100% from his ACL injury and if that is the case, then the transaction is a wash at best and that is assuming that Richardson is not only everything as advertised, but also lands in the right situation (see Jonathan Stewart). And then the trade would become a loser if Team A also hits big on the 1.04 pick and/or Leshore fully recovers from his Achilles injury and succeeds in Detroit. Again, I don't like this trade, but it has the potential to work out well for Team B.Doubt it takes 2 years for regret to set in. Horrible trade. And I'm a big Richardson fan.Terrible trade by Team B. He's going to really regret that in two years.Team A gave: Josh Johnson/Barden/1.01/2.11/3.03/4.06
Team B gave: Charles/Leshoure/1.04
2011: Julio Jones
2010: Jahvid Best
2009: Matt Stafford
2008: Matt Forte
2007: JaMarcus Russell
I would hardly call the 4th pick a for sure bust in my league at least.
This is putting Calvin Johnson value on Julio. I like it.I gave: Adrian Peterson, Mike Vick, My 2013 1stI got: Julio JonesI know I overpaid. I justify it by having Stafford/Romo/Bradford at QB and another teams 2013 1st. My team has made the playoffs the last 5 years so I anticipate the pick being at the back end of the 1st round.
Pending on APs ability to comeback and continue to play at a high level you may be right.This is putting Calvin Johnson value on Julio. I like it.I gave: Adrian Peterson, Mike Vick, My 2013 1stI got: Julio JonesI know I overpaid. I justify it by having Stafford/Romo/Bradford at QB and another teams 2013 1st. My team has made the playoffs the last 5 years so I anticipate the pick being at the back end of the 1st round.
I don't doubt that he'll comeback to his usual form but not this year. I think you're looking at only a couple more elite years (2013-14). I also don't see a lot of life in a 32 yo running QB either. Assuming the 2013 1st doesn't end up a top 3 pick I think it's a great trade.Pending on APs ability to comeback and continue to play at a high level you may be right.This is putting Calvin Johnson value on Julio. I like it.I gave: Adrian Peterson, Mike Vick, My 2013 1stI got: Julio JonesI know I overpaid. I justify it by having Stafford/Romo/Bradford at QB and another teams 2013 1st. My team has made the playoffs the last 5 years so I anticipate the pick being at the back end of the 1st round.
No, it's Brown, Ben, Flynn, and the #4 for Brees and BJGE. Still don't love it, but it's a bit closer, and in a QB-heavy league, I could totally see it.Horrible - Brown, Big Ben, Flynn AND the #1 for Brees and BJGE? :X :Love getting the 1.01 and then a bad deal to give it away, IMO.Antonio Brown and #4 for the #1.
Then Big Ben, Flynn and #1 for Brees and BJGE.
I agree, I like the deal a lot for the guy getting Julio.I don't doubt that he'll comeback to his usual form but not this year. I think you're looking at only a couple more elite years (2013-14). I also don't see a lot of life in a 32 yo running QB either. Assuming the 2013 1st doesn't end up a top 3 pick I think it's a great trade.Pending on APs ability to comeback and continue to play at a high level you may be right.This is putting Calvin Johnson value on Julio. I like it.I gave: Adrian Peterson, Mike Vick, My 2013 1stI got: Julio JonesI know I overpaid. I justify it by having Stafford/Romo/Bradford at QB and another teams 2013 1st. My team has made the playoffs the last 5 years so I anticipate the pick being at the back end of the 1st round.
Fair enough, but I'd rather have the 1.01 side. There's a good chance Mallet will be the Pats starting QB in two years so he's a nice acquisition for a team looking to get younger.This trade happened in a league 10 team league I commish, two guys have raised a fuss about it already, interestingly enough, they both disagree on who gave up too much.Start 2 qbs/2rbs/3wr/1te/idp , ppr, 3pt passing tdTeam A gave up:RoethlisbergerMendenhall1.082.4Team B gave up:1.1Ryan Mallett
I don't play 2QB so I can't speak to how that changes thing too much. But I prefer the 1.01 side as well. Richardson is a ADP level stud IMO, and Mendenhall is just a guy.Fair enough, but I'd rather have the 1.01 side. There's a good chance Mallet will be the Pats starting QB in two years so he's a nice acquisition for a team looking to get younger.This trade happened in a league 10 team league I commish, two guys have raised a fuss about it already, interestingly enough, they both disagree on who gave up too much.Start 2 qbs/2rbs/3wr/1te/idp , ppr, 3pt passing tdTeam A gave up:RoethlisbergerMendenhall1.082.4Team B gave up:1.1Ryan Mallett
Roethlisberger is worth about the same as 1.1 in this format.I don't play 2QB so I can't speak to how that changes thing too much. But I prefer the 1.01 side as well. Richardson is a ADP level stud IMO, and Mendenhall is just a guy.Fair enough, but I'd rather have the 1.01 side. There's a good chance Mallet will be the Pats starting QB in two years so he's a nice acquisition for a team looking to get younger.This trade happened in a league 10 team league I commish, two guys have raised a fuss about it already, interestingly enough, they both disagree on who gave up too much.Start 2 qbs/2rbs/3wr/1te/idp , ppr, 3pt passing tdTeam A gave up:RoethlisbergerMendenhall1.082.4Team B gave up:1.1Ryan Mallett
Say what??There's almost no chance of this unless Brady dies.There's a good chance Mallet will be the Pats starting QB in two years so he's a nice acquisition for a team looking to get younger.
Well he could drown in all the tail he has around himSay what??There's almost no chance of this unless Brady dies.There's a good chance Mallet will be the Pats starting QB in two years so he's a nice acquisition for a team looking to get younger.
It is 2 QB, but it is also a ppr with only 3 pts. per passing TD, so that changes things a bit. I wonder if the #1 pick will be Luck in a league like this?The fact that the two teams complaining disagree on which side won means it's probably fair.Roethlisberger is worth about the same as 1.1 in this format.I don't play 2QB so I can't speak to how that changes thing too much. But I prefer the 1.01 side as well. Richardson is a ADP level stud IMO, and Mendenhall is just a guy.Fair enough, but I'd rather have the 1.01 side. There's a good chance Mallet will be the Pats starting QB in two years so he's a nice acquisition for a team looking to get younger.This trade happened in a league 10 team league I commish, two guys have raised a fuss about it already, interestingly enough, they both disagree on who gave up too much.Start 2 qbs/2rbs/3wr/1te/idp , ppr, 3pt passing tdTeam A gave up:RoethlisbergerMendenhall1.082.4Team B gave up:1.1Ryan Mallett
Then he should wait until draft day (so he knows Griffin is there) to make the trade or trade Harvin for a QB now. I don't want to call it a terrible deal, it's just one that makes little sense as there's no real upside (sure a player taken in that spot could end up being better than Harvin, but most would be happy just to get a "Harvin" there) and only downside.He has great depth at WR, but is shaky at QB. So my only guess is that he is banking on Griffin being there at 1.07.That deal makes no sense for the guy trading away Harvin. Is he crossing his fingers that the guy he drafts at 1.07 is as productive as Harvin has been?I would think Harvin could fetch more than that??12 team standard PPR league.2012 pick 1.07 for Harvin
Like the Peterson side of this, but seems reasonable.Team H gave up Sproles, Darren NOS RB;Roosevelt, Naaman BUF WR;Gronkowski, Rob NEP TE; Year 2012 3.5 Draft PickTeam L gave up Gerhart, Toby MIN RB;Peterson, Adrian MIN RB;Gresham, Jermaine CIN TE;Year 2012 Round 4.09
2 QB league here, which is why Newton went before Jones and Stafford went so high.'cstu said:Jones shouldn't have lasted until 4 - it was Williams, Leshoure or Little in my leagues.2010: Jahvid BestI had to go look this up, as it seemed incorrect to me. In my 12 team dynasty league our 4th overall picks have been:I will say this for the trade - the 1.04 seems to be a bust every year.It is not a deal I ever would have done, but it is not that horrible. I could see someone like EBF making this trade - if one believes Richardson is a mortal lock to succeed in the NFL, then one could justify giving up two injured players whom we have no guarantee will ever fully recover from their injuries, plus what normally is a 2nd tier 1st round rookie pick. Also, while the 2.11 and 3.03 picks can be viewed as throw-ins, one might get lucky with them.However, Charles seems likely to at some point to return close to 100% from his ACL injury and if that is the case, then the transaction is a wash at best and that is assuming that Richardson is not only everything as advertised, but also lands in the right situation (see Jonathan Stewart). And then the trade would become a loser if Team A also hits big on the 1.04 pick and/or Leshore fully recovers from his Achilles injury and succeeds in Detroit. Again, I don't like this trade, but it has the potential to work out well for Team B.Doubt it takes 2 years for regret to set in. Horrible trade. And I'm a big Richardson fan.Terrible trade by Team B. He's going to really regret that in two years.Team A gave: Josh Johnson/Barden/1.01/2.11/3.03/4.06
Team B gave: Charles/Leshoure/1.04
2011: Julio Jones
2010: Jahvid Best
2009: Matt Stafford
2008: Matt Forte
2007: JaMarcus Russell
I would hardly call the 4th pick a for sure bust in my league at least.
2009: Donald Brown (Stafford was usually a late 1st/early 2nd)
2008: Matt Forte or Felix Jones
2007: Michael Bush or Brandon Jackson
You should have mentioned that to begin with, as one would assume that you were in a standard league by the2 QB league here, which is why Newton went before Jones and Stafford went so high.'cstu said:Jones shouldn't have lasted until 4 - it was Williams, Leshoure or Little in my leagues.2010: Jahvid BestI had to go look this up, as it seemed incorrect to me. In my 12 team dynasty league our 4th overall picks have been:I will say this for the trade - the 1.04 seems to be a bust every year.It is not a deal I ever would have done, but it is not that horrible. I could see someone like EBF making this trade - if one believes Richardson is a mortal lock to succeed in the NFL, then one could justify giving up two injured players whom we have no guarantee will ever fully recover from their injuries, plus what normally is a 2nd tier 1st round rookie pick. Also, while the 2.11 and 3.03 picks can be viewed as throw-ins, one might get lucky with them.However, Charles seems likely to at some point to return close to 100% from his ACL injury and if that is the case, then the transaction is a wash at best and that is assuming that Richardson is not only everything as advertised, but also lands in the right situation (see Jonathan Stewart). And then the trade would become a loser if Team A also hits big on the 1.04 pick and/or Leshore fully recovers from his Achilles injury and succeeds in Detroit. Again, I don't like this trade, but it has the potential to work out well for Team B.Doubt it takes 2 years for regret to set in. Horrible trade. And I'm a big Richardson fan.Terrible trade by Team B. He's going to really regret that in two years.Team A gave: Josh Johnson/Barden/1.01/2.11/3.03/4.06
Team B gave: Charles/Leshoure/1.04
2011: Julio Jones
2010: Jahvid Best
2009: Matt Stafford
2008: Matt Forte
2007: JaMarcus Russell
I would hardly call the 4th pick a for sure bust in my league at least.
2009: Donald Brown (Stafford was usually a late 1st/early 2nd)
2008: Matt Forte or Felix Jones
2007: Michael Bush or Brandon Jackson
Wallace owners seem to be panicking. I think he may be a buy - he's not DeSean Jackson IMO.16 team half PPRMike Wallace2.11For 1.061.08
i don't get this at all unless the former Wallace team is stacked at WR... assuming the top 3 Rookie picks, they will get Floyd/RG3/Miller, and then pick two spots later Jeffrey/Martin/Wilson. The 2.11 is not even a factor/lottery ticket so we are looking at Wallace for Floyd/Martin or RG3/Jeffrey. No way I would do that. To give up (on) Wallace, I would need a minimum Top 3 pick16 team half PPRMike Wallace2.11For 1.061.08
Rookie picks are very overvalued. I like 1.1-1.3 but not beyond.16 team half PPRMike Wallace2.11For 1.061.08
And Wallace is way undervalued.Rookie picks are very overvalued. I like 1.1-1.3 but not beyond.16 team half PPRMike Wallace2.11For 1.061.08
Or really likes Torrey.wow, someone has little faith in AP returning to his stud status.
Well, I see Bush and Forte as a wash. Steve Smith and Stevie J are a wash. So basically it is ADP for 1.5. Hmmmm. I would much rather have ADP than a 1.5.For me personally, the Forte/Smith/1.05 side got a great deal off of AP's name value.12-team PPR AP / StevieJ / M.Bush for Forte / Steve Smith CAR / 1.5Curious who you guys think won that one....
Huh? Bush and Forte as a wash? One is an almost 28 year old backup while the other is a 26 year old starter. Bush isn't remotely close to Forte. Similarly, an almost 33 year old Steve Smith doesn't carry the same value as a 25 going on 26 year old Steve Johnson.Well, I see Bush and Forte as a wash. Steve Smith and Stevie J are a wash. So basically it is ADP for 1.5. Hmmmm. I would much rather have ADP than a 1.5.For me personally, the Forte/Smith/1.05 side got a great deal off of AP's name value.12-team PPR AP / StevieJ / M.Bush for Forte / Steve Smith CAR / 1.5Curious who you guys think won that one....
I personally wasn't keen On the trade as the guy giving Wallace assumes all of the risk. If he picks well if could work out fine.His team was in pretty good shape last year before injuriesStaffordForteM bushMcFaddenGreenMarshallBrittWallaceHe's since traded away McFadden as well. Looks to have a case of Rookie Fever tbh.16 team half PPRMike Wallace2.11For 1.061.08