OMG, not the angle I was expecting, but I'll take it. Guess I won't be cutting Gordon just yet
more like Rocky. Tire out your opponent by letting him beat you, then when he's tired out in the 12th you go for the killAll ye of such little faith.
Why do you think Ive stuck around? To be a punching bag?
No.... to pull a Muhammad Ali
When pot gets legalized, you let the prisoners in jail for that crime out IMOI've read that article three times, and other than the title, i don't see where it says the potential new policy would be retroactive.
Ali Invented that.more like Rocky. Tire out your opponent by letting him beat you, then when he's tired out in the 12th you go for the killAll ye of such little faith.
Why do you think Ive stuck around? To be a punching bag?
No.... to pull a Muhammad Ali
@AlbertBreer When Goodell has said certain players wouldn't be suspended under new drug program, I believe those are the changes he's referencing.
And when do you think pot would be legalized, in this scenario? Hint: after this current season.When pot gets legalized, you let the prisoners in jail for that crime out IMOI've read that article three times, and other than the title, i don't see where it says the potential new policy would be retroactive.
This.I've read that article three times, and other than the title, i don't see where it says the potential new policy would be retroactive.
ThisAt this point, I think Gordon owners have a better chance of suing Gordon for emotional suffering than Gordon does of getting out of his suspension.
Why are you two so worried about it?ThisAt this point, I think Gordon owners have a better chance of suing Gordon for emotional suffering than Gordon does of getting out of his suspension.
It is also well documented that Gordon isn't the brightest guy, but I am beginning the think he is smarter than the Gordon owners
It is? He comes off as intelligent when speaking. Where can I find these test scores?ThisAt this point, I think Gordon owners have a better chance of suing Gordon for emotional suffering than Gordon does of getting out of his suspension.
It is also well documented that Gordon isn't the brightest guy, but I am beginning the think he is smarter than the Gordon owners
While Gordon owners should write this season off as lost, the new policy should actually increase his dynasty value as the chances of him messing up again go down significantly.The article has been updated to say:
"Breer clarified that he never said anything about suspensions already on the books being lifted."
That being said, IF there is a new policy, AND it contains a higher threshold/less severe penalties for weed, that improves (IMO) Gordon's chances of avoiding further suspensions.
Obviously, he passed a number of tests, and he was just barely over the NFL's low threshold on his recent failure. He's either very good at beating the tests, or stays "mostly" clean. If he continues that behavior, under a new policy, the worries that some people (including myself) that he would be unable to avoid further suspension shouldn't be as great.
After reading the "article / speculation", the only currently suspended WR in the NFL this would possibly benefit is Wes Welker. Why do some people have such a hard time letting go and admitting they were wrong about the year-long suspension for Gordon? This is really getting very Tebow-esque in terms of the lengths guys will go to find anything to hang their hopes on....OMG, not the angle I was expecting, but I'll take it. Guess I won't be cutting Gordon just yet
he has failed 6 tests in 4 yearsThe article has been updated to say:
"Breer clarified that he never said anything about suspensions already on the books being lifted."
That being said, IF there is a new policy, AND it contains a higher threshold/less severe penalties for weed, that improves (IMO) Gordon's chances of avoiding further suspensions.
Obviously, he passed a number of tests, and he was just barely over the NFL's low threshold on his recent failure. He's either very good at beating the tests, or stays "mostly" clean. If he continues that behavior, under a new policy, the worries that some people (including myself) that he would be unable to avoid further suspension shouldn't be as great.
It says they're potentially raising the threshold for positive marijuana tests. He barely failed, any raise in the threshold would mean his tests would be negative under the new policy. If its retroactive (which would make sense in terms of fairness), it would revoke his current suspension.After reading the "article / speculation", the only currently suspended WR in the NFL this would possibly benefit is Wes Welker. Why do some people have such a hard time letting go and admitting they were wrong about the year-long suspension for Gordon? This is really getting very Tebow-esque in terms of the lengths guys will go to find anything to hang their hopes on....OMG, not the angle I was expecting, but I'll take it. Guess I won't be cutting Gordon just yet
Won't pay up on his bets.I have never witnessed someone take the beating that Soulfly has in this thread. And he's endured it for 160 pages. If he's posted 500 times, he's been dead wrong 450 of them. Yet, he still keeps up the fight. I don't know if I should be embarrassed for him or proud of the beating he is able to withstand.
So a few other people were wrong about a couple of things, too. I guess that's some consolation for you. If it makes you feel better, I'm leaning toward proud. Most people with this much egg on their face do run and hide.Won't pay up on his bets.I have never witnessed someone take the beating that Soulfly has in this thread. And he's endured it for 160 pages. If he's posted 500 times, he's been dead wrong 450 of them. Yet, he still keeps up the fight. I don't know if I should be embarrassed for him or proud of the beating he is able to withstand.
Will disappear once the verdict comes down.
The social psychologists of the forum are just as bad as I.
Except you don't hear them admit that, ever.
Fairness for who? Do you really think Goodell obsesses about Josh Gordon playing this year as much as you and Soulfly do? I'm beginning to think one of you guys is his father or something. This was not his first offense and there most certainly won't be any exceptions made for a guy waiting for his DUI case to pan out....It says they're potentially raising the threshold for positive marijuana tests. He barely failed, any raise in the threshold would mean his tests would be negative under the new policy. If its retroactive (which would make sense in terms of fairness), it would revoke his current suspension.After reading the "article / speculation", the only currently suspended WR in the NFL this would possibly benefit is Wes Welker. Why do some people have such a hard time letting go and admitting they were wrong about the year-long suspension for Gordon? This is really getting very Tebow-esque in terms of the lengths guys will go to find anything to hang their hopes on....OMG, not the angle I was expecting, but I'll take it. Guess I won't be cutting Gordon just yet
I, along w many others were wrong about the suspension.So a few other people were wrong about a couple of things, too. I guess that's some consolation for you. If it makes you feel better, I'm leaning toward proud. Most people with this much egg on their face do run and hide.Won't pay up on his bets.I have never witnessed someone take the beating that Soulfly has in this thread. And he's endured it for 160 pages. If he's posted 500 times, he's been dead wrong 450 of them. Yet, he still keeps up the fight. I don't know if I should be embarrassed for him or proud of the beating he is able to withstand.
Will disappear once the verdict comes down.
The social psychologists of the forum are just as bad as I.
Except you don't hear them admit that, ever.
till he fails THEIR drug testAfter reading the "article / speculation", the only currently suspended WR in the NFL this would possibly benefit is Wes Welker. Why do some people have such a hard time letting go and admitting they were wrong about the year-long suspension for Gordon? This is really getting very Tebow-esque in terms of the lengths guys will go to find anything to hang their hopes on....OMG, not the angle I was expecting, but I'll take it. Guess I won't be cutting Gordon just yet
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#Browns WR Josh Gordon has a new job. He will be the goodwill ambassador for the Sarchione Auto group in Randolph, Ohio, which includes Sarchione Ford and Sarchione Chevrolet . He will be working in all aspects of their car business including as an on-floor salesman. Gordon will also be heading all of their local community efforts including with the Wounded Warriors Project. He starts this weekend.
lolI, along w many others were wrong about the suspension.So a few other people were wrong about a couple of things, too. I guess that's some consolation for you. If it makes you feel better, I'm leaning toward proud. Most people with this much egg on their face do run and hide.Won't pay up on his bets.I have never witnessed someone take the beating that Soulfly has in this thread. And he's endured it for 160 pages. If he's posted 500 times, he's been dead wrong 450 of them. Yet, he still keeps up the fight. I don't know if I should be embarrassed for him or proud of the beating he is able to withstand.
Will disappear once the verdict comes down.
The social psychologists of the forum are just as bad as I.
Except you don't hear them admit that, ever.
So what? So were many big named talking heads who thought he would receive a reduced suspension.
Only ONE person came out and apologized to me and gave me credit for following up on everything I said I would. The rest stayed quiet as I expected they would. That's life tho. It takes balls to come out and be wrong, and own up to it... This forum lacks a lot of balls.
but that's not fair!!!!!Not retroactive.
I'm not asking anyone to emulate me.lol
i love you man
you were as wrong as wrong can be, and somehow you are the one we should all emulate...
stay golden soulfly
and you deserve some credit for thatI'm not asking anyone to emulate me.lol
i love you man
you were as wrong as wrong can be, and somehow you are the one we should all emulate...
stay golden soulfly
Just pointing out that everything the forum gods said I wouldn't do, I did. I couldve taken the easy way out. Most wouldve.
We've all been wrong about many things on this forum. No harm done.I'm not asking anyone to emulate me.lol
i love you man
you were as wrong as wrong can be, and somehow you are the one we should all emulate...
stay golden soulfly
Just pointing out that everything the forum gods said I wouldn't do, I did. I couldve taken the easy way out. Most wouldve.
There is nothing difficult in what you've done here.I'm not asking anyone to emulate me.lol
i love you man
you were as wrong as wrong can be, and somehow you are the one we should all emulate...
stay golden soulfly
Just pointing out that everything the forum gods said I wouldn't do, I did. I couldve taken the easy way out. Most wouldve.
I can't speak for everyone, but I think at least a couple of people are lawyers who are just trying to explain the logistics.Some folks are awfully invested in making sure that those that were/are optimistic about Gordon playing understand they were/are wrong.
Guess I'd echo the above question, why are ya'll so worried about it?
There isn't. Nor did I say anything I did was difficult.There is nothing difficult in what you've done here.I'm not asking anyone to emulate me.lol
i love you man
you were as wrong as wrong can be, and somehow you are the one we should all emulate...
stay golden soulfly
Just pointing out that everything the forum gods said I wouldn't do, I did. I couldve taken the easy way out. Most wouldve.
Agreed and the actual expertise is appreciated and has been a positive contribution to the thread.I can't speak for everyone, but I think at least a couple of people are lawyers who are just trying to explain the logistics.Some folks are awfully invested in making sure that those that were/are optimistic about Gordon playing understand they were/are wrong.
Guess I'd echo the above question, why are ya'll so worried about it?
why are we assuming "no gordon"? There is no gordon.ok
soul, lets assume no Gordon...
best guess, brown's record?
Testicular fortitude? Throwing crap at a wall and then pulling a martyr routine (and not a very good one at that)? You still sound as though you feel you're owed something.There isn't. Nor did I say anything I did was difficult.There is nothing difficult in what you've done here.I'm not asking anyone to emulate me.lol
i love you man
you were as wrong as wrong can be, and somehow you are the one we should all emulate...
stay golden soulfly
Just pointing out that everything the forum gods said I wouldn't do, I did. I couldve taken the easy way out. Most wouldve.
It's what anyone w a semblance of testicular fortitude would've done.
But I wasnt the one calling me out for these things for the past 3 months
well some people still think through magic and/or legal action he'll playwhy are we assuming "no gordon"? There is no gordon.ok
soul, lets assume no Gordon...
best guess, brown's record?
no idea... defense seriously improved. best case scenario 8-8. expected scenario... 6-10.. worst case 4-12
Dude... The "let's pile on Soulfly game" ended about a week ago. Get off at the next stop, please.Testicular fortitude? Throwing crap at a wall and then pulling a martyr routine (and not a very good one at that)?
You still sound as though you feel you're owed something.
basically a 0.1% chance now. Wouldve been done by now, I would have to believe.well some people still think through magic and/or legal action he'll play
¡Pobrecito!Dude... The "let's pile on Soulfly game" ended about a week ago. Get off at the next stop, please.Testicular fortitude? Throwing crap at a wall and then pulling a martyr routine (and not a very good one at that)?
You still sound as though you feel you're owed something.
I'm not owed anything, nor have I asked for anything. I just pointed out that only one member stepped up who was on my opposing team.