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Andre Ellington - RB - Clemson. (2 Viewers)
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Jerry Curl
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Didn't Dwyer get a vulture TD in Week 2? Ellington has to be in at least a little better shape without Dwyer lurking to get the goal line carries. There is a lot going in Ellington's favor, actually. Supposedly, he is getting a little healthier, and even injured, he's been getting what 15-16 carries a game and averaging over 5 yards. If he gets healthier AND with Dwyer gone, he may be poised to get a few more FFL points moving forward.
On the down side, he really needs Palmer back in the lineup or that will start to erode his production. I say this because Palmer will do a better job keeping teams from stacking the box vs. Ariz...
Either way, I'd continue to start Ellington...I think it's only a matter of time before he truly breaks out.
Todem
Footballguy
On the 2 teams I own him I have little choice but too. But break out? If he indeed is playing with a tear in his foot (which I assume has been confirmed via MRI).....I am getting the "ticking time bomb" feeling....not the break out soon feeling.MikeApf said:
Hope I am dead wrong on that one.
zamboni
Footballguy
Just to throw a bit of cold water on things, but I expect that Stepfan Taylor will get most, if not all, of Dwyer's carries. Just because Dwyer is out, Arians still won't overwork Ellington, particularly with his bad foot.
The upside is that the Cards have their bye in week 4, so if Andre can make it through Sunday, he'll have two weeks to get healthier.
The upside is that the Cards have their bye in week 4, so if Andre can make it through Sunday, he'll have two weeks to get healthier.
Hasn't he already broken out? Over 100 total yards in week 2. Ypc very good. He's running well. He's not going to be a bell cow and he's probably not going to get many gl looks. He will be a Cj spiller type all year. Hell get you good yardage and some weeks lots of reception with a td sprinkled in here and there. Can't see him scoring more than 8 total Tds. But if that comes with 1500+ total yards I'll take it.
He's a rock sold rb2.
He's a rock sold rb2.
Coeur de Lion
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Dwyer wasn't getting carries for any reason other than to limit Ellington's workload. Just like Mendenhall last year. Neither Dwyer nor Mendenhall brought anything at all to the table other than the ability to take a beating keeping defenses honest on the tough inside carries that are a huge part of the Arians deep play action passing system. Those carries are very unlikely to just be given to Ellington. AZ will just go with the next guy up in the power role, and Ellington's role will be largely unchanged.Jerry Curl said:
One could argue that when Ellington's foot is 100%, the team might ramp up his touches, but given Arians' history with him, IMO that's also pretty unlikely. But it's far, far more feasible than predicting an increase in work just because AZ has to replace one scrub power RB with another.
Coeur de Lion
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8 TDs in the next 14 games seems pretty wildly optimistic considering he's had 4 total thus far in 17 games played.But regardless, even if he's a "rock solid RB2" (and he's not -- currently RB22, so low end RB2 / good RB3 having not played the brutal in division defenses yet), that's really not great return for a dude you almost certainly had to take in the top 12 or so RBs, usually in the 2nd round. Ellington was a huge sucker pick this year.
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Todem
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Got him in round 4 pick 9 of my redraft...far from a sucker pick in PPR scoring. Guy is a PPR back who should if he plays all 16 finish with 1300-1500 total yards....45-50 receptions and 5-6 TD's.
chickensoup
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Some of this depends on when you drafted and your depth. I got him in the early 4th in the only league I got him in but his foot ailment was known so people passed on him. He's definitely not a RB1 though. More of a higher upside 2 with a few great weeks (long scores) and some weeks like last where he was relatively bad in PPR due to a lack of targets. I look at him as basically Corderrelle Paterson.
Coeur de Lion
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Based on what I saw, getting him as a late 4th rounder was pretty atypical -- but yeah, I'd have no argument with him as a later RB2 / high RB3 in PPR. Tons of people were guzzling the "league-winning pick" / RB1 Kool Aid though, and those dudes are who I was referring to.
Resident A
Footballguy
I just traded Doug Martin for Ellington. I like Ellington's risk much more than Martin's.
chickensoup
Footballguy
Yeah it was mostly due to me drafting the Saturday after the opening game. People didn't even know if he would play until after the bye week at that point
he fell to the mid 3rd and even the 4th in plenty of ppr drafts. he was mid 3rd in half of my ffpc drafts.
Captain Hook
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jdoggydogg
Footballguy
I don't know about Ellington this week. He had two mediocre performances vs. SF last year.
Thinking about benching him for Khiry this week.
Thinking about benching him for Khiry this week.
We Tigers
Footballguy
One mediocre performance, yes, but I don't think I'd call 90 yards and a TD mediocre.
jdoggydogg
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jdoggydogg
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I can see that.
Vereen is tough to predict. He's a fantastic player, but he seems to disappear in games where the Patriots are winning easily.
We Tigers
Footballguy
I think so. I'll be starting him over Asiata, Fred Jackson, and Jonathan Stewart. I bet one of those guys will do better than Ellington this weekend, but I'm hard-pressed to guess which one. SF shut down Forte but Murray rolled over them in week 1, so I don't really know what to think about them right now.jdoggydogg said:
jdoggydogg
Footballguy
jdoggydogg
Footballguy
Anyone have a gut feeling that SF might crush the Cards this week?
Yeah, but even if they do, that doesn't necessarily mean Ellington won't get any work (the way it might for, say, Arian Foster or Eddie Lacy).
werdnoynek
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tandl71
Footballguy
Why is it that the coaches would continue to push him out there injured, but simultaneously are concerned about his overuse? Why would they not simply give him the ball more, because he gives them a MUCH BETTER chance to win, goal line or not?
Henry Ford
Footballguy
Sitting him behind Morris, Forte, and Terrance West.
well, they just shut down forte to the tune of 36 total yards. thats a guy who had over 90 yards in every game but 2 last season.
False Start
Footballguy
If Ellington can get to 20 touches a game consitantly, I think the odds of him being a RB1 are great, really great.
But if he keeps getting 12-18 without a TD like he has, he may just hang around RB2/3. His potential is up there, they just dont use him when they need to, the offensive play calling is pretty bad in Arizona.
But if he keeps getting 12-18 without a TD like he has, he may just hang around RB2/3. His potential is up there, they just dont use him when they need to, the offensive play calling is pretty bad in Arizona.
jdoggydogg
Footballguy
Coeur de Lion
Footballguy
Bruce Arians was NFL coach of the year in 2012 with Indy, and he's 12 - 6 overall as HC in Arizona in easily the toughest division in the NFL. Yeah, he's bad, guy.
zamboni
Footballguy
This is the only place I've seen it, without a quote from Arians. Urban is usually on top of Cards issues though.
http://blog.azcardinals.com/2014/09/19/stanton-to-start-against-49ers/
Coeur de Lion
Footballguy
No, he doesn't. He just cares more about his actual NFL team than he does about your FF team, guy.
tandl71
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tandl71
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buymeagoat
Footballguy
There we go
He was pretty awful running the ball. Thank goodness he managed a big catch. One big play does not give me confidence in his ability to produce in upcoming games.
Jerry Curl
Footballguy
There we go
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
4.5ypc coming into today. On pace to finish with 1600/8 currently.There we go
