Clifford
Footballguy
Name the other religion that has a navy.Every crazy part of scientology can be matched by something from a different religion.As much as I dislike religion, it's a stretch to call Scientology a religion.Religion
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Scientology's "The Hole" - had you heard about this? (1 Viewer)
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gump
Footballguy
That, human trafficking, and whatever else the FBI office camped up their a$$ is digging in to. It's only a matter of time.He is probably talking about the forced abortion charges. It looks like a court made the Scientologists give up a bunch of records lately and some people have come forward to verify that forced abortions were a thing. Unfortunately for Scientology the one that may stick involves an underage(at the time) girl.Can you give us a link Gump?There is a case being worked on that would bury them for good...I'm hoping that's why the govt isn't pursuing these 'smaller' issues.Any attorneys thoughts on how the hell this encampment can exist in this country (and not be run by the government ...at least)
gump
Footballguy
It's really nuts. They're are 4-5 giant cameras on long poles on the complex I drive by. Busses are super black tint.
They also build steel into the walls of all new construction so listening devices can't hear in.It's really nuts. They're are 4-5 giant cameras on long poles on the complex I drive by. Busses are super black tint.
gump
Footballguy
Here's a link from the last thread I believe...with other links to the expose that the St Pete Times did. Some interesting reading.Can you give us a link Gump?There is a case being worked on that would bury them for good...I'm hoping that's why the govt isn't pursuing these 'smaller' issues.Any attorneys thoughts on how the hell this encampment can exist in this country (and not be run by the government ...at least
http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=473499&hl=
Mario Kart
Footballguy
Haters gonna hate. All of you laughing or lambasting better watch yourselves. Lawyers? Lawsuits? Yeah, okay.
Each of you, if serious about your laughter, need to buy an E-meter to check your level of insanity.
Dragons
Delusions of Grandeur
Because the act of buying one maxes out the insanity scale.Haters gonna hate. All of you laughing or lambasting better watch yourselves. Lawyers? Lawsuits? Yeah, okay.Each of you, if serious about your laughter, need to buy an E-meter to check your level of insanity.
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Binky The Doormat
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Additional note to self:Haters gonna hate. All of you laughing or lambasting better watch yourselves. Lawyers? Lawsuits? Yeah, okay.
Each of you, if serious about your laughter, need to buy an E-meter to check your level of insanity.
- MK likely is heavily sedated 24/7 for safety reasons, do not poke the bear
Quez
Footballguy
No they don't pay any taxes on them.http://www.hcpafl.org/CamaDisplay.aspx?OutputMode=Display&SearchType=RealEstate&ParcelID=19291850N000056000020A
Here is the cigar factory one. The other was just a building in ybor.
3102 N Habana Ave
http://goo.gl/maps/r8oET
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Binky The Doormat
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shuke
Black Ice Skeptic
I almost hope this isn't shtick.Haters gonna hate. All of you laughing or lambasting better watch yourselves. Lawyers? Lawsuits? Yeah, okay.
Each of you, if serious about your laughter, need to buy an E-meter to check your level of insanity.
fatness
Footballguy
Nice knowing you.There is a case being worked on that would bury them for good...I'm hoping that's why the govt isn't pursuing these 'smaller' issues.Any attorneys thoughts on how the hell this encampment can exist in this country (and not be run by the government ...at least
gump
Footballguy
'Going Clear' out to make a few sleepless nights for the Scienoterrorists.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/movies/2015/01/26/controversial-scientology-documentary/22337995/
Among the bombshells asserted by eight former church members: Scientology intentionally broke up Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman; it tortured some of its members in a prison known as "the hole" and subjected others to hard labor; it harassed those who left the organization and forced their family members to cut off all contact.
The film offers an intimate portrait of founder L. Ron Hubbard (or LRH as he's referred to by members) and follows the rise of current leader David Miscavige, alleging his misuse of power and that he physically abused several members.
The film also claims that Hubbard beat and threatened his first wife and kidnapped their daughter, leaving her in Cuba in the care of a mentally disabled woman. It also detailed Hubbard's elaborate cosmology incorporating space aliens, invading spirits, volcanoes and other elements that his sci-fi writing had contained.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/movies/2015/01/26/controversial-scientology-documentary/22337995/
Among the bombshells asserted by eight former church members: Scientology intentionally broke up Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman; it tortured some of its members in a prison known as "the hole" and subjected others to hard labor; it harassed those who left the organization and forced their family members to cut off all contact.
The film offers an intimate portrait of founder L. Ron Hubbard (or LRH as he's referred to by members) and follows the rise of current leader David Miscavige, alleging his misuse of power and that he physically abused several members.
The film also claims that Hubbard beat and threatened his first wife and kidnapped their daughter, leaving her in Cuba in the care of a mentally disabled woman. It also detailed Hubbard's elaborate cosmology incorporating space aliens, invading spirits, volcanoes and other elements that his sci-fi writing had contained.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
bentley
Footballguy
I saw a film festival screening of this that came with free beer. The writer, director and one of the main characters were there and did Q&A. Pretty crazy story.
Mario Kart
Footballguy
Worst documentary ever. 0% of what the author is trying to do is accurate. What a waste of time, money, and should be sued for defamation.
Long live L. Ron!!!!
gump
Footballguy
Crazy but true...its hard to believe the Scienos held off reality this long, but their strongarming of the media and government had to come to an end....going to be fun to watch.
James Daulton
Footballguy
How'd they get the video of the convention?
The Ref
Footballguy
The strange thing is if you step back and discuss some of the mental teachings "Scientology" makes sense. We all have a "reactive mind" and it in all likelihood comes from our ancestors anxieties in day to day situations as well as life and death situations. I'm about 90% on board with this way of thinking.
Unfortunately the next chapter of the book is all about space aliens and interplanetary wars from hundreds of years ago. Mix in the child slavery and all the other cult Like activity and this "religion" becomes a bit of a drag.
Unfortunately the next chapter of the book is all about space aliens and interplanetary wars from hundreds of years ago. Mix in the child slavery and all the other cult Like activity and this "religion" becomes a bit of a drag.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
I brought home Dianetics when I was 17. Within five minutes, my father had confiscated it and it was in the trash.
I remember him mumbling something about "devil worshiper"... he was a brilliant man so I took his word for it.
I remember him mumbling something about "devil worshiper"... he was a brilliant man so I took his word for it.
AAABatteries
Footballguy
Pyscho Kev is a Scientologist?
Capella
Footballguy
bentley
Footballguy
This was refreshing. Because I wanted to talk to everyone about the movie after I watched it. Little fear of offending a scientologist.
cstu
Footballguy
The Ref
Footballguy
This is the part that's fascinating to me. If they do go to such lengths as they are accused of can you imagine what type of pressure they would be willing to put on you from a business perspective? Its like Tyler Durdens club but real.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
I'll never forget where I was when Tom Cruise won the "IAS Freedom Medal of Valor".
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
matuski
Footballguy
Pretty much my take away on every religion.
Space wars and aliens... Talking burning bushes... Reincarnation. Toss up for me.
Quez
Footballguy
I watched it last night. Some of the guys in the documentary seemed to be pretty high level guys, so they are pretty credible. The one guy was in a bunch of pics/ videos right next to Miscaivage. Lol at the music video.
There is no doubt they have some dirt on Tom Cruise & Travolta. I wouldn't be surprised is Miscaivage & Tom Cruise are gey. That was pretty weird how Tom Cruise was looking at him when he was accepting that bs award. Also, the story about how they plucked a scientology girl from Spain to become his girlfriend.
There is no doubt they have some dirt on Tom Cruise & Travolta. I wouldn't be surprised is Miscaivage & Tom Cruise are gey. That was pretty weird how Tom Cruise was looking at him when he was accepting that bs award. Also, the story about how they plucked a scientology girl from Spain to become his girlfriend.
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Dinsy Ejotuz
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Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
I would like to purchase the property next to there, and to put a rather rude symbol onto the ground, readily visible from the air.
B-Deep
Footballguy
Ditkaless Wonders
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Cold Dead Hands
Footballguy
James Daulton
Footballguy
The Catholic Church laughs at Scientology's puny assets.elbowrm said:
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
xenu
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Willie Neslon
Footballguy
The whole thing seems very much like North Korea to me. The way the leaders dead or alive are treated like gods, the way the church members react and applaud during those speeches, the grand spectacles, larger than life stages, the music. Then you have the propaganda, the secret prisons, the low wages, people living on food scraps, the harassment of former members. These people really believe just like the people of North Korea believe they live in the best country.
If Tom Cruise believes in Scientology then he's treated like a living God by the tens of thousands of church members and has access to the vast wealth of the church. If he leaves and speaks out against the church he is the sworn enemy of tens of thousands of people and an army will be unleashed to destroy him in every way. I'd stay too. Even if he has doubts which it doesn't seem like he does what would be the upside of leaving?
If Tom Cruise believes in Scientology then he's treated like a living God by the tens of thousands of church members and has access to the vast wealth of the church. If he leaves and speaks out against the church he is the sworn enemy of tens of thousands of people and an army will be unleashed to destroy him in every way. I'd stay too. Even if he has doubts which it doesn't seem like he does what would be the upside of leaving?
Willie Neslon
Footballguy
Interesting read on Miscavige's wife
http://www.vanityfair.com/style/2014/03/shelly-miscavige-scientology-queen-de-throned
http://www.vanityfair.com/style/2014/03/shelly-miscavige-scientology-queen-de-throned
McGarnicle
Footballguy
The doc insinuated that they're holding Travolta hostage too, with all the gay stuff. Some of it is already public knowledge but if he quit the cult, who knows what other stuff they would leak about him.Another thing that blew me away -- show me another person or entity that has ever successfully strong-armed the IRS. Unbelievable.
Officer Pete Malloy
Footballguy
I'd like to see a documentary like this on every other religion.
Baloney Sandwich
Footballguy
Love the LRH schtick of moving on to next level OT that didn't require a human vessel
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