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Im sure he'll provide a valid link for this. Just be patient.
Well I agree. But if you've read previous posts, some people on both sides assume that it is.
Wasnt that you? You wrote that there was a consensus that there was a least one holdout who would never convict a cop of anything. Did you not agree with that consensus? If not, my apologies.
Here is what I said. It is a fascinating thought experiment to see how quickly people read race into my statement - something which honestly didn't occur to me since everyone here in Baltimore knows the defendant is African-American. As are the majority of the other police officers charged in this matter. As is the Mayor. As was the Chief of Police at the time.
I don't think this is true and I heard yesterday the majority of jurors wanted to acquit, not convict. We'll see exactly how everyone voted shortly.
I have no idea what happened in that jury room. I do know that if you choose 12 random people, the odds that all 12 are capable of intelligently evaluating evidence and coming to a reasonable conclusion is pretty low. If the 12 people aren't truly random, and are instead 12 people chosen randomly from among those remaining after the ones intelligent enough to avoid jury duty in the first place are removed, the odds are even slimmer. Now, whether that favors the defense or prosecution in this case, I couldn't say.
Everybody has biases and they don't get checked at the courtroom door. Some of these biases are going to have a racial component, but I wouldn't want to assume something about a specific individual that I didn't know.
I'm not agreeing either. There's a reason the system has been in place for hundreds of years. There's a reason that there are 12 jurors instead of 5 or 6.
This is a good posting. The next guy up is the van driver, and for Murder 2. No way he's getting convicted of that. Defense is going to say that this guy's been driving guys all over Baltimore to Central Booking for years and nobody's ever been seriously injured before, let alone killed, despite having no seatbelt. And all of a sudden, he commits second degree homicide on Freddie Gray?
This is one of the few times I agree with you. The jury pool is filling up with Walmart people. Not an individual judge but a group of a minimum 3... majority vote rules.
Umm, that was a sarcastic response on my part. I believe in the current system.Ditka Butkus said:
I was close, two stood up for him on one of the charges. 11-1 to acquit on manslaughter.
That list of Democratic candidates omits all the real contenders. Here are my power rankings:
Got it from the Baltimore Sun so I wasn't sure if it was accurate or not but thanks for updating.
+++ The Baltimore cops are now 2-0 in fairly easy wins.
I thought the charges were legit, but that they would be difficult to prove beyond a reasonable doubt. I'm not surprised by this outcome. I hope the community doesn't react in a bad way.
It was all based on the idea that they purposefully failed to properly restrain him and then drove erratically to injure him.
Every protester I've heard interviewed outside of the courtroom today. "No justice, no peace". Great...
What people never seem to understand is that none of these incidents are in a vacuum. Perhaps the Baltimore police are not guilty of deliberately trying to harm Freddie Gray. But they ARE guilty of decades of institutionalized racism against black youths. Every protestor that gets upset about this outcome looks at it with that in mind.
Maybe that's the problem. They can't look at any of these cases on their merits. Everyone is guilty because people are angry.
I don't disagree. And don't get me wrong: I think the protestors are in the wrong here. But I understand their anger. And I have no idea how to fix it.
Start by not letting them think it is acceptable. This is the kind of idea that lynch mobs were formed around. Follow the example of men who have actually made a long term difference.
Are there any responsible leaders who have done otherwise? Certainly Obama, whom conservatives are always eager to blame for the heightening of racial tensions, has been quick to denounce violence in every instance.
People's lives and careers have been ruined, and because of the police pullback now murder and violent crime rates have skyrocketed. The failure to deal with the real hard truth has resulted in incalculable harm.
