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WR Stefon Diggs, HOU (3 Viewers)
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TheWinz
Footballguy
Of course I was joking about Cousins purposely trying to get his teammates injured. I just think Diggs talking bad about Cousins is in very poor taste. Cousins will still be the MIN QB in 2020, and if Diggs remains, it creates friction.
mr roboto
Footballguy
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Pretty much, yeah. I am sure he'd rather play in a pass-happy offense where he gets the most targets, as opposed to a run-heavy one where he is the number 2 WR behind Thielen, but it is what it is.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
Haters going to hate.
What Diggs is tweeting about from my understanding is about life not football. But go ahead and judge his character as if football is the only thing he cares about.
What Diggs is tweeting about from my understanding is about life not football. But go ahead and judge his character as if football is the only thing he cares about.
kittenmittens
Footballguy
Is that why he deleted all the Vikings stuff from his instagram?
I think it's obvious by now that Diggs has some sort of problem with the organization that leaks out from time to time. This passive aggressive stuff happened before when he skipped a practice.
I'm not saying he's forcing his way out, but he's not so subtly making a statement.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
I don't pay any attention to what players are doing on instagram or twitter or facebook or whatever.
According to Vikings podcasters I have listened to recently Diggs deleted all of his stuff from Instagram that wasn't fashion related. Instagram does seem like a good medium for these types of things I suppose and perhaps he is just narrowing his focus on that.
Obvious?
I think people assume some of his comments on social media, which are cryptic at times are in some way related to his attitude towards the team, when most of it isn't about that at all.
People see what the want to see.
Diggs doesn't mind people being opinionated about this and he may even enjoy watching people over react to him, I am not sure. I have heard some who are paying more to it than I am (not hard) say they think Diggs enjoys people talking about him.
I don't know why people think he is trying to force his way out. I would think if he were that the guys I am listening to would say so. They do not seem to think he is.
They talk about the possibility because iits the offseason.
His deal is decent for the quality of player he is but the garunteed money such that it would be very restrictive for the Vikings to accelerate the cap hit on a deal that Diggs signed just last season.
Diggs himself has said things like "Cousins is my guy" and so on as his most direct response to all this speculation about a trade, yet no one talks about that.
If they do trade DIggs it will cost at least a 1st and 3rd round pick. Diggs is maybe worth that to a team. The Vikings will not sell him cheaply and I don't think the Vikings are interested in trading DIggs at all. The offer would have to be very rich and somehow Diggs was forcing their hand.
The rumors will continue through the offseason. I just think its a bunch of smoke and writer speculation though.
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kittenmittens
Footballguy
There has been a lot of smoke here, so there must be some fire. I don't buy the Diggs is just doing it to generate interest - it goes beyond social media as iirc he held out of a practice over lack of offensive involvement?
To clarify, I meant that he's making a statement that could be 'I want the ball more' rather than he wants to be traded. I don't know of any problem he has with Cousins.
From what I understand Zimmer likes to think he runs a tight ship. If Diggs' antics are even giving the perception of undermining Zimmer I wouldn't expect him to be thrilled with it.
It does seem like more than nothing.
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Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Biabreakable
Footballguy
Because you don't think he is worth that?
I agree he isn't being traded but if teams are inquiring the price is that high or higher to aquire him imo.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
Has there been a lot of smoke?
Just because a bunch of people freak out about it does not mean there is anything more to it than them freaking out.
Last season when this stuff began Diggs missed a practice. He was fined for it. He said he was sick but that seems unlikely This was after the Vikings lost to the Bears and the offense did nothing in that game. That was the incident and now everything DIggs does is scruitinized in the same light as that event.
If you recall the Vikings went onto a fantastic run of games following that.
Zimmer hasn't expressed any issue with Diggs that I am aware of.
I think it is a whole lot of nothing.
I guess Diggs Mom said on Twitter that Diggs should be traded to Washington for Trent Williams. But this is his Mom wanting him to live close to her again so she can see him more, thats it. If I were Diggs I would want to stay with the Vikings.
If DIggs did not want to be a Vikings all he had to do is not sign a new contract last season and he would be a free agent right now.
Not that its really on the table, but assuming Williams is the player he was before sitting out last season, that is a pretty good deal for both teams. Williams helps more the Vikings more than Diggs right now, and Diggs would help the Redskins more than Williams long term.Biabreakable said:
Biabreakable
Footballguy
I'm sure Diggs Mom could do a fine job as a GM.
She should care about her son more than that though. Washington is a very poorly run organization.
She's just being selfish. Diggs likely explained this to her offline.
kittenmittens
Footballguy
Sure, that's also what every PR department uses for spin just about every time somebody's emotions get the best of them and they do, post or say something that needs to be spun.Heatman said:
Case in point Alshon Jeffery.
jtd13
Footballguy
Could someone direct me to where this happened? I've seen it alluded to a couple times now.
Faust
MVP
Faust
MVP
I couldn’t find anything directly attributed to Diggs, but there are a few examples of Adam Thielen expressing his frustrations with the passing game:
Thielen on Sideline Conversation With Cousins, What Went Wrong This Season
Thielen Explains Postgame Comments on 'Under Center with Kirk Cousins'
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Biabreakable
Footballguy
Rick Spielman's Full Combine Press Conference Talking Diggs' Status, Cousins' Play In 2019, Cook's Contract, More
At the 6:30 mark is where Spielman is asked about Diggs.
He's laughing at the question.
At the 6:30 mark is where Spielman is asked about Diggs.
He's laughing at the question.
32 Counter Pass
Footballguy
Where the heck did all these rumors about Diggs getting traded originated? Is it wishful thinking by Diggs owners? 
kittenmittens
Footballguy
He probably means he is going to start having a different breakfast than he normally does each morning.
ffmail4me
Footballguy
If he is traded, I'd love to see him in DC. It would also be great for Thielen's value I'd think. And hopefully a lot more of Smith Jr this year....
kittenmittens
Footballguy
The only rumor I've seen is Seattle so far.
New England could get in the mix too - Brady has to be going back there. There is nowhere else for him to go and win, other than home to his family.
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
New England would be a good fit....because Brady would need weapons.....but the way they spread the ball around, Diggs would likely throw his little tantrums almost weekly.
ffmail4me
Footballguy
Just throwing a random possibility out there:
What about Diggs to Baltimore for Marlon Humphrey? Vikings get a young #1 CB(albeit in a contract year) who is exactly Zimmer's type of CB. Ravens get a legit #1 WR, and were 50-50 to re-sign Humphrey next year, as they just signed Peters long term.
I actually think the Vikings would be winning that deal, but I'm trying to come up with something that makes sense for both sides, and I kind of doubt Diggs would be dealt for just picks or some scrub(unless Bill O'Brien suddenly switched teams)
What about Diggs to Baltimore for Marlon Humphrey? Vikings get a young #1 CB(albeit in a contract year) who is exactly Zimmer's type of CB. Ravens get a legit #1 WR, and were 50-50 to re-sign Humphrey next year, as they just signed Peters long term.
I actually think the Vikings would be winning that deal, but I'm trying to come up with something that makes sense for both sides, and I kind of doubt Diggs would be dealt for just picks or some scrub(unless Bill O'Brien suddenly switched teams)
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
The loser will end up being the team that has him on payroll. Seems to be in the beginning of the AB certification program.
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
Dude seemed like a really good guy a few seasons ago. Now he's a diva and a malcontent. What really happened?
Biabreakable
Footballguy
The Vikings only threw the ball 466 times last year which was the 3rd fewest in the league. Only the Titans and Ravens passed the ball less.
Hard to make hay as a WR without opportunity. Mutiny early last year from the WR crying out that the Vikings need to throw the damn ball.
Kirk Cousins extended for 2 more years.
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matuski
Footballguy
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
As a Bills fan, I can’t help but have mixed feelings after seeing how little the Cards gave up for Hopkins and how much the Bills gave up for Diggs. Bills must not have been as sold on this year’s WR crop as all of the draft experts.
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
Lateral move I’d say for him. Not a high powered offense but only really John Brown to compete with for targets.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Don't say it much but good job Spielman.
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
Lol O’Brien, could you look any dumber on this day
kittenmittens
Footballguy
rockaction
Footballguy
After typing out many longer, more thorough responses all I'm left with is that Buffalo is not a dome.
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rockaction
Footballguy
As some who wanted to acquire him, this makes me less likely to want to. That's about the long and the short of it.
rockaction
Footballguy
Yeah, this is one of those scenarios where there's a great deal of uncertainty around a player seemingly destined for greatness but always with a hitch in the situational giddyup.
mozzy84
Footballguy
I would agree. Cousins is what he is, but he is accurate anyways, unlike Allen. (vikes just havnt thrown a lot last couple years).
I would think Diggs isn’t super jacked about this move either, but he got what he wanted and he wanted out of MN.
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
Enjoy Buffalo pal.
You got what you wanted.
You got what you wanted.
