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WR Stefon Diggs, HOU (1 Viewer)
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ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
So was this guy complete fools gold who hit a lucky hot streak, or can he develop into a consistent playmaker? In dynasty, can he grow into a T.Y. Hilton type (but limited by his QB right now)? A WR2 with a big weekly ceiling? Or will he be less than that?
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
Re-watch the all-22 compilations I put together on him, he's almost certainly not fools gold from a talent perspective. He's just a rookie on an offense completely devoid of another real pass catching threat, with a developing QB and a run first mind set. In conjunction with an absolutely brutal slate over the past five weeks and I'm and I think it would be unfair to judge him solely on his recent drought. With all of the above variables in place, he has no chance in a game like this where PP sticks to him like glue.
Nathan Jahnke @PFF_NateJahnke 3h3 hours ago
Patrick Peterson has lined up across from Stefon Diggs on 26 of 29 1st half MIN offensive snaps. Diggs has been held without a catch.
I still think he has the ability to be great if he can hone his craft and some of the above variables change. For instance, Peterson isn't going to be around forever, eventually TB (should) mature, MIN may bring in another receiving threat to draw attention and etc. He's obviously a firm hold in dynasty and someone we'll need to keep an eye in redraft next year if he represents good value.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Yep, just hold him & take the 5 yard automatic FD. Worked well for PP last night.
dipandglide
Footballguy
I liked what I saw. The consistency will be there once he and Teddy mature.
Hankmoody
Footballguy
socrates
Footballguy
Pretty sure he is referring strictly to redraft formats. I agree fantasy owners would have to be pretty thin at WR to be considering starting Diggs in a playoff game down the stretch.
In Dynasty leagues, Diggs is a definite hold. The future remains bright.
Bridgewater isn't the answer at qb. He sucks. And the offense is bland bland bland. Run first, run 2nd, throw on 3rd and short.
Bleh.
The only thing making me hold Diggs in redraft is that he IS the real deal, their schedule lightens up a bit, and their dense is hurt bad rt now so teams can score on them and they might be playing a lot of catchup ball.
Bleh.
The only thing making me hold Diggs in redraft is that he IS the real deal, their schedule lightens up a bit, and their dense is hurt bad rt now so teams can score on them and they might be playing a lot of catchup ball.
mr roboto
Footballguy
^^^^ 
His Y/A and completion % are significantly better than Bortles. But Bortles puts up FF stats so he's better right?
Diggs is still raw against press coverage. Peterson shut him down on Thursday. The O-Line is Swiss cheese, Norv calls too many 7-step drops because AP refuses to run from the gun or pistol.
But yeah Teddy SUX!!!
His Y/A and completion % are significantly better than Bortles. But Bortles puts up FF stats so he's better right?
Diggs is still raw against press coverage. Peterson shut him down on Thursday. The O-Line is Swiss cheese, Norv calls too many 7-step drops because AP refuses to run from the gun or pistol.
But yeah Teddy SUX!!!
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Denver724
Footballguy
Looks like FBG's are still high on Diggs. Ranked pretty high again in their weekly rankings. I guess he is going to hit eventually. What is everyone thoughts on Diggs this week? Dodds has him ranked over RB West and John Brown (again).
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
FBGs is telling me to start Travis Benjamin @ SEA in the Flex over Gurley & Michael Floyd.
Cut Diggs for a backup K last night in redraft. A month ago I predicted he would have a rough four weeks but still has a great playoff schedule. At this point, though, he's my Flex9/WR6 - no reason to risk a championship by starting him.
2 of the 3 teams left have moves left & might pick him up. I'm comfortable with that risk.
Looking forward to drafting him next year. I think he is an exceptional route runner & has great hands. Needs to fight through getting jammed at the line - Peterson mauled him at the line & simply grabbed when he went by. They only called about a third of the holds; he'll need to work on his strength & technique going forward. But great upside IMO.
Rhythmdoctor
Footballguy
This is the week to start Diggs, imo.
zamboni
Footballguy
Don't know about that. I think it'll be all AP all day, with Teddy throwing the ball his usual 20-25 times just to keep defenses honest. Diggs will probably get a piece of that action, but expect that Rudolph will as well.
It's all about next year at this point for Diggs for me.
Skoo
Footballguy
I wouldn't touch Diggs with a ten foot pole right now. Dropped him a few weeks ago, and that was a PPR league.
He just doesn't get nearly enough looks to consider starting in a normal league, IMO.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
I've spent the last 20 minutes cursing him and putting pins in a stefon Diggs voodoo dolls just made. Going off on my bench while Zach Miller does nothing in my flex
A month and a half ago I had Diggs pegged my every week flex ROS. 6 weeks of wr10 production later and I didn't even consider him today in an important win or go home matchup.
A month and a half ago I had Diggs pegged my every week flex ROS. 6 weeks of wr10 production later and I didn't even consider him today in an important win or go home matchup.
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
Started him over Dez almost by mistake (meant to switch out for Dez but missed the early game).
mr roboto
Footballguy
ADP out and teddy shines.
Maelstrom
Footballguy
DocHolliday
Footballguy
Seems like a strong Wr3 to me.
NeverEnough
Footballguy
Anyone selling him? I've shopped him hard in 2 dynasty PPR leagues & no one seems to want him unless it's for junk so I'll hold.
I'm a little gun shy about Diggs. I do think he's a talented kid, but after his nice little run last year, he came crashing back to earth. And I don't have much faith in Bridgewater either. Probably a nice WR3, but get used to 100 yards and a touchdown followed by 2 receptions for 9 yards.
massraider
Footballguy
The other starting WR is Charles Johnson, and the flash rookie is a kid that cannot beat out Charles Johnson.
Tight end is a nice player, but no dynamic target hog.
Diggs is not a deep threat, playing with a QB that has questionable deep strength.
I am such a big fan of this guy.
He might never be Nuk Hopkins, but I think he's going to have very consistent target numbers this year, and be a very very strong WR3.
It's also worth noting that I think he'll have the same amount of fantasy points as other WR 2/3 types, who are less consistent with their points. I think you see more likely to get steady points from Diggs, which has value to me.
Diggs being undervalued by Rotoworld, IMO, makes him a trade target. WR 4? He's their number 1-option.
Love me some Diggs.
Tight end is a nice player, but no dynamic target hog.
Diggs is not a deep threat, playing with a QB that has questionable deep strength.
I am such a big fan of this guy.
He might never be Nuk Hopkins, but I think he's going to have very consistent target numbers this year, and be a very very strong WR3.
It's also worth noting that I think he'll have the same amount of fantasy points as other WR 2/3 types, who are less consistent with their points. I think you see more likely to get steady points from Diggs, which has value to me.
Diggs being undervalued by Rotoworld, IMO, makes him a trade target. WR 4? He's their number 1-option.
Love me some Diggs.
mr roboto
Footballguy
I'd agree but not because of Teddy's limitations. In fact I think we will see a marked uptick in Teddy's attempts and production this year.
Last year Diggs was really the only outside threat they had. Johnson was a no show, Wallace was a one tick pony who couldn't run the full route tree and Wright/Theilen are slot guys. And forget CPatt BTW.
Anyway, #### O line, ADP requiring under center drops (cause he hates running out of the gun) and Teddy is a cautious decision maker (although to be honest no one here in MN blames him with the situation).
This year - Johnson is back and he's a legit all-around outside guy. Teddy is more confident down field. Treadwell (who will have almost 0 impact this year) will eventually get some rotation in and Theilen will get a ton of 2 minute/3rd down looks.
Diggs is a WR2 in NFL terms. Not a true #1. He's a fantastic player but he was THE ONLY WR Teddy trusted last year, and he rarely had time to let his WRs finish their routes.
Tl;dr Diggs will repeat last year's production because there's more competition for targets.
tombonneau
Footballguy
I'm gonna try to buy in dynasty. Kid passed the eyeball test for me last year. I agree with others that he will be limited in Minny and thus redraft value is suppressed at the WR3, but this kid could be a classic example of excelling on his second team as a 1B a la Sanders. I could see him going to Indy or Carolina or wherever in a few years and producing low-end WR1 numbers. He's just good and that's enough for me.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
The Vikings have a pretty long track record of keeping their rookie players who perform well and giving them a second contract. This is one their main organizational strategies.
Percy Harvin forced them to trade him, otherwise I think they would have given him a long contract.
I expect Diggs to play well and be Teddy's favorite WR for years to come and that the Vikings will sign him to another contract when he gets close to the end of his rookie deal if he continues performing well, which I think he will.
Teddy Bridgewater is a better QB than I think most people give him credit for. I think he will change some peoples mind about that this season.
Percy Harvin forced them to trade him, otherwise I think they would have given him a long contract.
I expect Diggs to play well and be Teddy's favorite WR for years to come and that the Vikings will sign him to another contract when he gets close to the end of his rookie deal if he continues performing well, which I think he will.
Teddy Bridgewater is a better QB than I think most people give him credit for. I think he will change some peoples mind about that this season.
tone1oc
Footballguy
Based solely on his comps (age & production mostly)
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Standard
Half PPR
PPR
Low
3.7
5.1
6.4
Median
8.4
10
12.2
High
9.4
12
14.2
My personal projection assuming..
- 24% target rate (League Average of WR1s in 2015)
- 62% catch rate (2015 catch rate)
- 8 Y/T (8.6 in 2015, slight downtick in efficiency with increased targets)
- 5% TD rate (League Average of WR1s in 2015)
POS
PLAYER
TRGS
RECS
recYDS
recYPR
recTDS
ruATTS
ruYDS
ruYPC
ruTDS
PPR
HalfPPR
WR1
Diggs, Stefon MIN WR
125.83
78.02
1006.68
12.90
6.29
2.25
11.98
5.32
0.03
217.81
178.81
This would of put him at WR21 (PPR) overall in 2015. My projection is also assuming the team has an uptick in passing, but still slightly below league average and that the team's average margin is equal to last season. So with all those assumptions, I think this is probably a reasonable albiet best case-ish scenario for Diggs in 2016.
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Biabreakable
Footballguy
Nice work with the projections tone. I agree with that pretty much across the board.
