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****OFFICIAL DYNASTY TRADES**** (29 Viewers)
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OBJBazinga! said:
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Hankmoody said:
He's had some growing pains but the guy is far above an "average talent" in the NFL. yep.
in all honesty, MM is better for the Titans than for your FF team, or has been anyway. Like you said, a lot of really good QBs start that way. FWIW Tom Brady wasn't all that great in FF until his 6th year - and that's with one of the best HCs in NFL history. Just sayin' it takes time sometimes.menobrown said:
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Booker in the first...Mathews is what he is...little value there...while Booker is still a total mystery I would rather have him on my roster just in case the best case scenario happens in Denver...I would go Woods easily in the other deal...I am real high on Woods...I feel he is one of the more underrated WRs...he put up good numbers per game last year and not only that but he really looked legit...he is on a very good offense and they have invested good money in him and as of now he has been worth it...
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Stupid trade...real bad move...no reason to even break it down it is so obviously bad...
I agree, why would anyone want a 30 year old Wr who is about to lose his QB to retirement.
I'd prefer AB side but can see merit of this deal for the other side. Get a much younger piece in Cooper who I think rebounds and maybe if Dez can pick it up just a little the extra WR depth won't leave them much if any worse in the short term.
People forget that similar to Cooper, AB regressed in season 3, not as bad as Cooper regressed but he had a disappointing season. He was viewed as a low upside WR3 type who would never be a big red zone guy. Was a 5th-6th round startup guy that year. Similar to the Mariotta discussion people just seem to forget that young players take a little time to get where they are going.
I'd not give Cooper and Ertz for OBJ in this format, would have needed Kittles to make this move if I was giving up Cooper and Ertz.
Liked the first one for you. Take a shot on Booker, if he does not win job just chop and move on. Mathews I feel like I can replace.
Would have kept Miller in second. Not a huge Miller fan by any stretch(who is anymore?) but I think Texans are light on early draft picks so RB comp other then Foreman may not be that heavy. Small deal but I might do Miller for Woods straight, would no move back from 2.7 to 3.5.
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The only reason I can think of is because he had 101 receptions for 1533 yards and 9 TDs in 14 games last year...
I was half joking, but I think Brown is very overpriced in Dynasty. He should have a good season this year but we have seen how bad he is without Big Ben. I do agree Dez is not a good piece.
Concept Coop
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Ben isn't going anywhere, I don't think. And if he does, they're going to replace him - not just trot out their backup.
Replacing a top Qb is not easy. Also Brown's skill set is the type that drops off a cliff fast. He isn't a big receiver that has better longevity.
Boston
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I have zero issues trading him but you gotta get more than that...Dez is a complete unknown right now and is not getting any younger and while Cooper still has a lot of upside he was a complete disaster last year...if I am gonna deal one of the very best players in all of fantasy I need to get a lot more back than that...
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I understand that, but what would you need to trade him? The problem is that only a team that is win now will want him at this point. That really limits trade possibilities. I traded one that was Davante Adams and 2019 1st (top 2 probably #1 pick) for Brown and a 2019 3rd. I got Adams and the pick. Made no sense for the team getting Brown. But no one wanted to give much for Brown.
I would see that almost completely opposite but historical data would be light because not a lot of highly successful smaller WR's and the one's that are tend to be slot guys or burners. He's more quick then fast and a very cerebral player and those are area's you can generally age well. Always hard to predict the future but what I know right now is among what I view as his contemporary's(Dez, Julio, Green) he sure looks like he's aging better than them to me.
That is a good point about him compared to his contemporaries. I just see the wheels coming off without Ben.
Hankmoody
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I have no problem making an investment expecting three full years of return. Big Ben's whining about retirement was about getting rid of Haley who he had personal difficulties with. He's not walking away from $20M a year until they push him out.
Andy Dufresne
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Non-ppr IDP Zealots
Gave: OJ Howard
Got: 1.11
Rebuilding and I didn't like where Howard ended up. I'd rather take a swing on someone new.
Gave: OJ Howard
Got: 1.11
Rebuilding and I didn't like where Howard ended up. I'd rather take a swing on someone new.
Spike
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Andy Dufresne
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Zyphros
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Ben & Jerry's
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12 team ppr IDP
Nelson Agholor + 5.07
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2.11
Nelson Agholor + 5.07
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2.11
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barackdhouse
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Didn't Ben just sign on for another 3 years? That's 3 years of the best WR of a generation. As for Brown's longevity, I forsee a Marvin Harrison comparison. Dude has aged incredibly well so far.
Spike
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With you only having Everett as your top TE, I hate it for you.
And with Josh McCown as your ONLY QB, I really hate any trade in which you don’t target a QB.
Concept Coop
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Andy Dufresne
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I'll pick up another TE in a better situation. And getting a QB is what acquiring picks is for. I have these now
Year 2018 Draft Pick 1.06
Year 2018 Draft Pick 1.11
Year 2018 Draft Pick 2.02
Year 2018 Draft Pick 2.12
Year 2018 Draft Pick 3.02
Year 2018 Draft Pick 3.04
Year 2018 Draft Pick 5.02
Year 2018 Draft Pick 5.10
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Good comp. I did a startup in 2015 and at pick 6 I had AB available. I'm usually one to prefer younger, in this case the decision was Mike Evans or Brown at pick 6 and starting a team with a 27 year old WR vs young Evans was not in my nature. So I thought of the most similar player I could think off and it was Harrison and saw he did not even break out until he was same age as AB was in 2015, 27. Was a WR1 stud at age 34. I'm not banking on AB doing that at 34 because of Peyton and domelife but looking over Harrison sold me on going with AB.
msudaisy26
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Standard scoring ppr all touchdown are 6 points. Start 1qb, 2rb, 2wr, 1te, 2 flex.
I gave Golden Tate
I got 1.12 and Robby Anderson
I gave Golden Tate
I got 1.12 and Robby Anderson
dipandglide
Footballguy
Hmmm. This draft is pretty deep. I want to say Tate but think it's fair for both side. Tate's value will go way down after this season.
A couple recent trades...
12 team, ppr
Gave: Dez, 1.09
Got: Corey Davis
14 teams, superflex, ppr, heavy rb scoring
Gave: Wentz
Got: Mixon, 1.03, '18 2nd
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Gave: Bradford, 2.09
Got: Flacco, 2.02
16 teams, ppr
Gave: AJG, Dez
Got: OBJ
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msudaisy26
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dipandglide
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msudaisy26
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Ahh yes. I think I would still take Mixon and Guice or the 1st qb.
Give me Bradford.
ghostguy123
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Matt's Eagles
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12 Team PPR TE Bonus
Team A got Gronk, Galloday, 19 2nd
Team B got Alshon Jeffrey, 2019 1st
Team A got Gronk, Galloday, 19 2nd
Team B got Alshon Jeffrey, 2019 1st
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Fwiw, we recently saw Antonio traded in a league where receivers are worth a lot, for 1.05 and two 2019 firsts. Both 19 picks will be late, like 12-16 range.
gianmarco
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I wouldn't say easy, but I prefer the Kelce side. It's close, even with the 1.5 ppr for TEs.
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JPeso
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JackReacher
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AB owner here in FFPC; the 1.5 and dual flex make Kelce attractIve, but certainly wouldn’t call it an easy deal to make. Roster constructIon would play huge part.
JPeso
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I can’t knock it. As a Kelce owner in majority of leagues I’m not dealing him straight across for AB. No doubt both are competitive advantages but I like the edge in a scarce position even if AB scores more. Again can’t fault the logic of AB > Kelce but given I wouldn’t make the deal straight up, the deal posted is quite lopsided for me.
bostonfred
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Kelce is changing from a highly accurate quarterback to an unknown with a deep arm, and the team just added a 16 million dollar a year receiver. His value won't go up this year but it could drop a lot. I would be hesitant to pay top 10 overall value for him.
