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Funny. I made a similar move in my FFPC league last week. Traded TY, Clement, 1.11, 3.11 & 2019 2nd for JuJu.
This was an overpay to get someone you want.
Agree on all points. KB could be in the drop zone for me in favor of some other higher potential guys like Clement.
I agree I like the Move for Juju.JackReacher said:
I think this is more of an indictment on KB than an endorsement for Clement, but Clement does have a bit of upside to some. FFPC cuts to 16 (including K & D) in late March, so you get to see first what teams do in Free Agency. If the Eagles move on from Blount and Sproles, and go with Ajayi/Clement, then Clement gets some third down and two-minute drill duty, and the occasional carry inside the 5. He's not a bad plug when you need him. In my trade specifically, I didn't mind parting with him.
And than one injury to Ajayi from being starter. I think Clement has shown enough to be able to move on from Blount/Sproles.
Agree and with the way WR scoring has fallen the last few years we have to adjust our expectations. Even AB had two I think this year in 14 full games, 3 officially counting the NE early exit. That is once every 5 games and AB once went 40 straight games without a single digit fantasy game! A streak which did not get broke till Big Ben got hurt.jeaton6 said:
Seems like Benjamin is a decent buy low. Not that he'll be elite but people are bailing on him, and I'd still bet on him being effective like his first two full seasons. More valuable in standard.
Big fast guy who doesn’t work on the finer points of the game=splash play dependent wr5.
More like big slow guy that's hard to defend should be good for adequate yardage and good TDs.
Good presentation on the trade and painting a picture of the roster and reasoning for both teams. This is an ideal way I'd like to see trades posted.JPeso said:
I probably take the 1.01.
If that guy would do it you are crazy for not offering it. That’s incredibly light for the 1.01
The trade offered is great value for Mahomes. But, how easy is it going to be for you to flip some of that QB depth for other positions? You now have 4-5 legit starting QBs on your roster in a start 1QB league. In my Zealots leagues, QB trades seem to be the most difficult to make.
For both of those offers, if you keep ~25 or less players, I think you jump at the chance to have the 1.1. Unless your roster is really junk and needs multiple dart throws to hit.
The only thing I'd hate about giving up that pile of picks right now is the fun I'm losing out on next few months of mulling over what to do with the picks. But if the goal of trading is to make your team better it's got to feel like you just did that.
Aunt Jemima said:
This one is indeed interesting. Davis was well ahead of Juju on rook draft boards last year, and generally I preach multiyear patience when it comes to radical re-evaluations,
I prefer the picks by quite a bit. Gordon has produced fantasy numbers but his efficiency concerns me. I think come draft time 1.3>>Gordon and right now I’d still have a hard time giving that pick up for him. This is the kind of trade I’d have been much more willing to make for an in-season title run but even then I think the 1.8, Cousins and Cobb was overkill.
Curious but who was your RB2 before the deal? I value 1.03 as an even swap to Melvin Gordon basically so the extra on top makes me prefer that side. However with a strong core like you have I can see the appeal of overpaying a bit to get who you wanted and fill out your roster.
love the point/counterpoint. Really tight. Think this just comes down to philosophy. Juju is talented for sure and he did well this year but I still think Davis is more talented and will have the better QB in a year or so. If I'm competing now I might take juju, building and I probably take Davis. Both should be really good, could be elite.Aunt Jemima said:
1.1fruity pebbles said:
JuJu kind of got the Alshon treatment in the draft community, but in hindsight, those who have liked him probably had him closer to 5-6 on last year's draft boards. I think there are more questions about Corey than JuJu moving forward and it isn't like JuJu isn't/wasn't a phenomenal prospect.
I bought Gordon in a few leagues last off-season for 1.3/change and he delivered. I feel a bit better about this year's 1.3 than last year's though. I would probably accept dealing Gordon for 3/8, and would have a difficult time paying that to acquire him.
I will take AJ here.
2.1 handily.
The 1.1 in a landslide, take the money and run.fruity pebbles said:
It would depend on their QB. Taylor did not like to throw to his WRs downfield. While I’m sure they are not at the top of Cousins’ list, what if they add him?
I’ll believe it when I see it. Not sure what the cap situation is in buffalo. I know they made the playoffs and everything but I’m not sure that’s a “win now” roster. He’s made a lot of money already, and will make plenty more, so I don’t think money will be the dominant factor in his choice. Outside of the top fa qb option signing there what is the dream scenario? Bradford might bring some short term value as long as he’s on the field. Mccown maybe for next year if all else fails. A trade for Alex smith would take the fa factor out of it, and maybe that’s the best case other than cousins and they could pull it off. Smith doesn’t exactly target his WRs either though...
It's worth noting that Benjamin is an UFA after the 2018 season so there is more than one path to him finally hooking up with a decent passing QB. I'm not saying I would bank on it or anything but if the buying price is a 3rd string running back I think it's a decent dart throw.for a guy that essentially has two 1000 yard seasons under his belt despite never playing for a QB that's thrown for more than 3500 yards.
Nice - I can't see Tarik as any more than a boom/bust change of pace back...I don't see Darren Sproles here. Shepard could be a very good ppr asset IMO.
No idea how Shepard's value has fallen so far. The guy was picked in the 1.05 range as a rookie (albeit in a weak class), he had a solid rookie year, and then this year played well when healthy (prorated numbers were 94 catches for 1170 yards), yet now his value seems to be a mid 2nd at best.
I'd take Shepard but think it's closer then most. In the end a WR3 with WR2 upside for a RB3 with RB2 upside.
Eli’s decline, emgerance of engram. Wouldn’t take but a little good news or even see who the coach will be but good buy low option.
Also was as not big on Jordan Matthews or Benjamin on their old teams. Mathews is at a point I'd not even roster for free in FFPC leagues and would be moving the other two if I had them.
He needs RBs and I need WRs so I think it was fair to both of us--neither player is a sure deal but both have upside. I don't see Jordan Howard going anywhere so that limits Cohen and I don't know for sure who is QB in NYG so that could limit Shepherd's.
