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****OFFICIAL DYNASTY TRADES**** (20 Viewers)
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ffmail4me
Footballguy
He fell to 2.10, just seemed to good of value NOT to trade up and take him there. Scoring is pretty unique in this league thought. RBs get .5 PPR and .2 points per carry and per target. WRs get 1.25 PPR and 1.25 points per first down. TEs get 1.5 PPR and 1.5 points per first down.
Boston
Footballguy
I would take the 2.06 for Watkins...he is what he is at this point and I don't see you getting anything more then that...I would be in no rush to make the second deal with this years draft being deep...every draft has guys who slip no matter how much you think you know how it will unfold...I would hate to move that pick and have a Ruggs or CEH on the board at 1.12.
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Hankmoody
Footballguy
This isn't really a dynasty league at this point, it's far more a redraft. Giver me the two guys that had large roles last year over what might be a stud but might not. The massive value of 1.01 is that he's someone you're gonna have for 4,5, 10 years and even if he starts slow he'll hold that long term value. That's not happening in a redraft and I'm taking Conner and Mostert as flex/insurance guys for a big run. 1.01 might not even start for that team.
Mark Football
Footballguy
I learned a good deal from the discussion about that possible trade. And thats what I come to the shark pool for. I wish we were allowed to talk more like that on this post. I think it would be fruitful. Oh well.
Pwingles
Footballguy
I was def being funny about the whole thing, I don't personally care much.
I only report/complain about Lonestars posts
barackdhouse
Footballguy
Which is why I think the trade is much more fair than some have said to me. I'm also clearing a little roster space. This does mimic FFPC in that we have to cut down to 16. Ours doesn't cut down until the last day of the NFL draft, though, so we have a little more room to work. If I don't consolidate here, I have to either move or cut Ebron, Ingram, or DWilliams.
Jonesin For Some Football
Footballguy
Jonesin For Some Football
Footballguy
I like both deals but the 2nd one would depend on where I thought his would fall next year and what my team looked like.
Snorkelson
Footballguy
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
PPR not involved. League Deals today.
Phillip Rivers and a 2020 5th for a 2020 3rd and 2021 3rd.
TY Hilton for Mostert, Foles, 2020 3rd, 2020 4th.
Phillip Rivers and a 2020 5th for a 2020 3rd and 2021 3rd.
TY Hilton for Mostert, Foles, 2020 3rd, 2020 4th.
Feel the same.
That's about two rounds more then I'd pay for Watkins so love that deal.
But I'd need to know were that projected first is in 2021 before I come off 1.12 right now. Which is also some personal bias, I was thinking of something the other day and I've actually had more success with picks 11/12 then I have with picks 2/3. 11/12 has been my sweet spot. Past may mean nothing for the future but that's in my head and I'd need to know were that future pick projects.
Picks if in a one QB league unless roster size is huge and it's super hard to find a QB.
Hilton by a lot in the other for me.
This is timely for me since this is basically a redraft league at this point. Last night I was doing a live redraft, one of those national type contests so I'm shooting for upside. I was coming up on 4/5 turn and took Taylor and Swift. Conner would have been my next choice.
It's all gamble. Not a ton of wide open RB landing spots and as we've discussed here the Steelers may very well want to add a RB but they only have one pick before like 100. I still decided I'd gamble on the rookies but I think at this point it's fair to say Swift and Taylor are 50/50 vs Conner in terms of performance.
But I'm talking about drafting Swift and Taylor now, that's more like a 50/50 type proposition. But if you let me pick the rookie RB at 1.1 after the NFL draft, that heavily swings the odds IMO to value resting with the 1.1 so long as your not married to Swift to Taylor. That's why I think this was a really good trade to make to get the 1.1.
Dez
Footballguy
You would have paid that.
Not sure you can compare drafts but I gave 1.04, 1.07, future 1st to move up to 1.01 to get Barley in my dynasty rookie draft in 2018.
northern exposure
Footballguy
But, in this thread, that's the first rule of the Hypothetical Trade club. Don't talk about the Hypothetical Trade!
Hankmoody
Footballguy
I partially agree, but there are all kinds of places to do that, in particular the de facto stealth AC thread that's now a mile long and chock full of this stuff. When people are in this thread they are looking for actual completed trades. I know I only come here a couple times a week and I hate having to skim through a bunch of irrelevant stuff.
Mark Football
Footballguy
I know there are differing opinions and there has been alot of discussion about it in the past. But Id like to hear more specific ideas about trades and values. Even in the dynasty discussion thread, if you start getting specific you'll often get pointed to the graveyard AC forum. I'd love there to be a thread that includes trade ideas and rejected trades. Theres probably more rejected trades out there than completed. I think there would be a lot of information to learn from a thread like that.
Jonesin For Some Football
Footballguy
battlestar
Footballguy
12 team PPR
Team is middle of the road and I needed some more talent on my roster. Been trying to deal Hopkins for youth/picks but nothing happening there so. Ended up that I:
gave DJ Moore
got 1.5, 2.1 and 3.1.
guy offered the 1.5 and his 2.5 and I countered with the above. He accepted so quickly it makes me think I could have gotten a bit more. Still fine with the deal though, because I need everything from QB to WR to TE so really the extra picks help as I may be able to grab a top QB at 2.1 which would help a lot.
Team is middle of the road and I needed some more talent on my roster. Been trying to deal Hopkins for youth/picks but nothing happening there so. Ended up that I:
gave DJ Moore
got 1.5, 2.1 and 3.1.
guy offered the 1.5 and his 2.5 and I countered with the above. He accepted so quickly it makes me think I could have gotten a bit more. Still fine with the deal though, because I need everything from QB to WR to TE so really the extra picks help as I may be able to grab a top QB at 2.1 which would help a lot.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Hankmoody
Footballguy
No you don't, that entire thread is an AC discussion. I just posted a quick question and got 4 immediate responses. You even got @'d to join it.
Hankmoody
Footballguy
Hankmoody
Footballguy
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
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King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Again, I apologize....jumped my turn. Will comment on the trade though. I can see either way depending on squad. DJ is a prized commodity and if I was a strong team that needed the punch at WR I would do the trade. If I was a talent ridden squad I would take the picks. Pretty even IMO.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
I own Godwin and would think he would carry good value. What are you looking for (picks or players)?
battlestar
Footballguy
No, actually, not yet at least as this deal sort of came out of the blue. I am willing to take the risk that I can’t replace Moore’s value entirely or immediately but with my roster I felt I needed another couple of cracks in a deep draft year to add another useful player or two.
And I figured if I really F it up this season and end up closer to the bottom than the middle or top then I’ll earn an early pick and will know early enough hopefully that I can sell off other pieces and reload next year.
And , I should add thanks for all of the comments and discussion. Love it.
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rockaction
Footballguy
Godwin GM here. Somebody tried to get me to move him for two seconds. I laughed. You couldn't get me to move him for two firsts, I responded. He's 24, man. There are no fair offers for him.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
rockaction
Footballguy
Tejas
Footballguy
Tried to move Adams for Miles Sanders, Terry McLaurin, 2021 2nd.
Tried to move Godwin for D.K. Metcalf and 1.4.
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Gottabesweet
Footballguy
Not involved. 12 team PPR league. Start 2RB and a flex. Small points for KR/PR (1 per 20-25 yards)
Tarik Cohen for 2.4, 4.7, 5.7
Tarik Cohen for 2.4, 4.7, 5.7
JohnnyU
Footballguy
why? It's not like Brady is a WR friendly QB anymore. I would much rather have Rodgers throwing to Adams than Brady throwing to Godwin.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
I think Godwin owners (me) are hoping he becomes Brady's favorite slot target and he continues to get peppered. Winston was the perfect fantasy friendly QQB. Maybe TB brings him back as a backup once he realizes nobody wants him as a starter.
Boston
Footballguy
JohnnyU
Footballguy
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Boston
Footballguy
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JohnnyU
Footballguy
Seems to me Brady prefers the dink and dunk passing and I'm not sure he can do much else anymore.
Boston
Footballguy
That is the offense the Pats run and it also reflected the talent he had around him...can you name anyone that you thought should have been more productive with him the past two years?
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Who did they have there? Josh Gordon and A. Brown had big games in their brief runs with the team before outside circumstances ended their seasons.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I'm talking about now with Brady. There stands a good chance he can't throw the long ball anymore.
Boston
Footballguy
Bonus points if anyone can even name their TEs...he was not in a position to be successful last year...going 4,057-24-8 with the weapons he had and a banged up line was not bad...as I have said before I think he took a step back last year but that is from how high he was...if he doesn't take another step back (and that will always be a possibility at his age) I think he will have a very good year as long as the O line plays well.
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