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Nobody is arguing both sides.

Nobody in here has defended violence that curtails free speech.    People in here can handle free speech (other than Trump supporters who tell people not to post in their threads and hate every bit of criticism thrown his way...and support a man who wants to cut off much of the 1st amendment when people are mean to him).
Not trying to derail this thread, just pointing out hypocrisy.  But creating "safe zones" and making words or flags illegal is not promoting free speech either.  Will not further this discussion on liberal hypocrisy, just pointing out that it also exists with Trump supporters as well.

 
There is an unpleasant and racist element to the term "subhuman" that dates back to the Nazi era. That's why I'd prefer you didn't use it. 

I have no idea how many of the anti-Trump protestors are illegal immigrants. I suspect most are not. 

Hillary will not lose the White House as a result of violent protests but they certainly don't help her. I believe most women, like most voters, will support Hillary in Novelber because if for no other reason the alternative is just too awful to contemplate. 

I forgot to add this part: :lmao:  Who am I racist against? The human race?

I can't use the word subhuman because they Nazi's used it???? :lmao:  You are so ####### nuts.

I'll go back to what I've said before. We put the rational people on one side and you and your buddies on the other side a wall and you are mad max within a month.

 
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I forgot to add this part: :lmao:  Who am I racist against? The human race?

I can't use the word subhuman because they Nazi's used it???? :lmao:  You are so ####### nuts.

I'll go back to what I've said before. We put the rational people on one side and you and your buddies on the other side a wall and you are mad max within a month.


That you think you are one of the rational people is where the disconnect is.

 
Of course...this is where you claim you are innocent in putting others down or insulting them.
No, this is where you lie about what I have said...as I never claimed to be innocent.

But a person who just stated he wants to execute rioters...even just over the top message board schtick...and with FavreCo's body of work...that person is not rational (neither is anyone willing to support Trump for President...I think there may be a tiny bit of rational thought in supporting Hillary, but not much).

 
So you admit to putting down others and insulting people here yet you complain about it when others do.
Nope.

I admit I have put down others.

I admit that I point out the hypocrisy of those (like you and other Trump supporters) who complain about insults, yet are some of the biggest offenders on the board.

Want to insult people, have at it.  Just don't be one of the many complaining about it.

Similar to you complaining about others trolling...when you do nothing but troll on this board.

 
I'm good with that. Actually I'd like them executed.
This is a disgusting statement. And incredibly Un-American. If you want to execute protesters, maybe North Korea would be more to your liking.

On the bright side, you are doing a great job of furthering the narrative that Trump supporters are hateful idiots!

So you have that going for you.

 
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We're going to go back to being a STRONG America. No more handouts, no more political correctness.

STRENGTH AND WINNING

 
I love how none of the Trumpkins have poked their heads up in here to actually address the substance of Hillary's speech.  Raise your hands if you think Saudi Arabia as a nuclear power is a good idea. How about Trump knowing more about ISIS than the folks in the Pentagon? Torture, deliberately targeting familes? Nuking Syria?

Anyone?
:crickets:

Of course.

 
I'll fight you.
Have at it. I'd love to hear a coherent defense of any of the garbage that Trump spews. I'm guessing that this will be less entertaining than I'm hoping for, but might be pleasantly surprised.

This is a man who said that more countries should have nuclear weapons, including Saudi Arabia.

ANDERSON COOPER: Saudi Arabia, nuclear weapons?

TRUMP: Saudi Arabia, absolutely.

This is someone who has threatened to abandon our allies in NATO – the countries that work with us to root out terrorists abroad before the strike us at home.

TRUMP: “We don't really need NATO in its current form. NATO is obsolete… if we have to walk, we walk.”

He believes we can treat the U.S. economy like one of his casinos and default on our debts to the rest of the world, which would cause an economic catastrophe far worse than anything we experienced in 2008.

TRUMP: “I’ve borrowed knowing that you can pay back with discounts... I would borrow knowing that if the economy crashed, you could make a deal.”

He has said that he would order our military to carry out torture...

TRUMP: “Don’t tell me it doesn’t work — torture works… Waterboarding is fine, but it’s not nearly tough enough, ok?”

and the murder of civilians who are related to suspected terrorists...

TRUMP: "The other thing with the terrorists is you have to take out their families”

even though those are war crimes.

TRUMP: “They won’t refuse. They’re not going to refuse me, If I say do it, they’re going to do it.”

He says he doesn’t have to listen to our generals or ambassadors, because he has – quote – “a very good brain.”

TRUMP: “I’m speaking with myself, number one, because I have a very good brain and I’ve said a lot of things...my primary consultant is myself”

He also said, “I know more about ISIS than the generals, believe me.”

TRUMP: “I know more about ISIS than the generals do. Believe me.”

You know what?  I don’t believe him.

TRUMP: “We don't even really know who the leader [of ISIS] is.”

He believes climate change is a hoax invented by the Chinese...

TRUMP: “The concept of global warming was created by and for the Chinese in order to make U.S. manufacturing non-competitive.”

and has the gall to say prisoners of war like John McCain aren’t heroes.

TRUMP: “He’s not a war hero. He was a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured, ok? I hate to tell you.”

He praises dictators like Vladimir Putin...

TRUMP: "I will tell you, in terms of leadership, he's getting an 'A,' and our president is not doing so well.”

and picks fights with our friends – including the British prime minister…

TRUMP: "It looks like we are not going to have a very good relationship. Who knows?"

the mayor of London…

TRUMP: "Let's take an I.Q. test... I think they're very rude statements and frankly, tell him, I will remember those statements."

the German chancellor…

TRUMP: “What Merkel has done is incredible, it’s actually mind boggling. Everyone thought she was a really great leader and now she’s turned out to be this catastrophic leader. And she’ll be out if they don’t have a revolution.”

the president of Mexico…

TRUMP: “I don't know about the Hitler comparison [President Nieto made]. I hadn't heard that, but it's a terrible comparison. I'm not happy about that certainly. I don't want that comparison, but we have to be strong and we have to be vigilant”

and the Pope.

TRUMP: “I don’t think [the Pope] understands the danger of the open border that we have with Mexico. I think Mexico got him to [criticize the wall] it because they want to keep the border just the way it is. They’re making a fortune, and we’re losing.”

He says he has foreign policy experience because he ran the Miss Universe pageant in Russia.

TRUMP: “I know Russia well. I had a major event in Russia two or three years ago, Miss Universe contest, which was a big, big, incredible event.”

And to top it off, he believes America is weak.  An embarrassment.

TRUMP: "I think we've become very weak and ineffective."

He called our military a disaster.

TRUMP: “Our military is a disaster.”

He said we’re – quote – a “third-world country.”

TRUMP: “We have become a third world country, folks.”

That’s why it’s no small thing when he talks about leaving NATO or says he’ll stay neutral on Israel’s security.

TRUMP: “Let me be sort of a neutral guy.”

It’s no small thing when he calls Mexican immigrants rapists and murderers.

TRUMP: “When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists.”

And it’s no small thing when he suggests that America should withdraw our military support for Japan, encourage them to get nuclear weapons...

TRUMP: “And frankly, the case could be made, that let them protect themselves against North Korea. They’d probably wipe them out pretty quick.”

and said this about a war between Japan and North Korea – and I quote – “If they do, they do.  Good luck, enjoy yourself, folks.”

TRUMP: “And if they fight, you know what, that would be a terrible thing, terrible. Good luck folks, enjoy yourself…if they do, they do”

Donald Trump doesn’t know the first thing about Iran or its nuclear program.  Ask him.  It’ll become clear very quickly.

TRUMP: “When those restrictions expire, Iran will have an industrial-size military nuclear capability ready to go." (Politifact: False.)

There’s no risk of people losing their lives if you blow up a golf-course deal.  But it doesn’t work like that in world affairs.  Just like being interviewed on the same episode of “60 Minutes” as Putin is not the same as actually dealing with Putin.

TRUMP: “I got to know him very well, because we were both on 60 minutes, we were stablemates and we did very well that night. You know that.”

He wants to start a trade war with China.

TRUMP: "These dummies say, 'Oh, that's a trade war. Trade war? We're losing $500 billion in trade with China. Who the hell cares if there's a trade war?”

And I have to say, I don’t understand Donald’s bizarre fascination with dictators and strongmen who have no love for America.  He praised China for the Tiananmen Square massacre; he said it showed strength.

TRUMP: “When the students poured into Tiananmen Square, the Chinese government almost blew it. Then they were vicious, they were horrible, but they put it down with strength. That shows you the power of strength."

He said, “You’ve got to give Kim Jong Un credit” for taking over North Korea – something he did by murdering everyone he saw as a threat, including his own uncle, which Donald described gleefully, like he was recapping an action movie.

TRUMP: "And you've got to give him credit. How many young guys — he was like 26 or 25 when his father died — take over these tough generals…. It's incredible. He wiped out the uncle. He wiped out this one, that one. I mean, this guy doesn't play games.”

And he said that, if he were grading Vladimir Putin as a leader, he’d give him an A.

TRUMP: "I will tell you, in terms of leadership, he's getting an 'A,'

What’s Trump’s [ISIS plan]?  He won’t say.  He is literally keeping it a secret.  The secret, of course, is he has no idea what he’d do to stop ISIS.

TRUMP: “I do know what to do and I would know how to bring ISIS to the table or beyond that, defeat ISIS very quickly and I’m not going to tell you what is… All I can tell you it is a foolproof way of winning.”

Just look at the few things he actually has said on the subject. He actually said – quote – “maybe Syria should be a free zone for ISIS.”  That’s right – let a terrorist group have control of a major country in the Middle East.

TRUMP: It's really rather amazing, maybe Syria should be a free zone for ISIS, let them fight and then you pick up the remnants.

Then he said we should send tens of thousands of American ground troops to the Middle East to fight ISIS.

TRUMP: "We really have no choice. We have to knock out ISIS. We have to knock the hell out of them… I would listen to the generals but I'm hearing numbers of 20,000 to 30,000. We have to knock them out fast."

He also refused to rule out using nuclear weapons against ISIS, which would mean mass civilian casualties.

TRUMP: “I’m never going to rule anything out—I wouldn’t want to say [if I’d use nuclear weapons against ISIS.]”

Trump says over and over again, “The world is laughing at us.”  He’s been saying this for decades.

TRUMP (1999): "[Saudi Arabians] take such advantage of us with the oil... and they laugh at this country.

TRUMP (2010): "I know many of the people in China, I know many of the big business people, and they're laughing at us.”

TRUMP (2011): “We have become a laughingstock, the world’s whipping boy”

TRUMP (2012): “The world is laughing at us."

TRUMP (2013): “After Syria, our enemies are laughing!”

TRUMP (2014): “Mexican leadership has been laughing at us for many years”

TRUMP (2015): “The Persians are great negotiators. They are laughing at the stupidity of the deal we’re making”

TRUMP (2016): “We can't afford to be so nice and so foolish anymore. Our country is in trouble. ISIS is laughing at us.”

He bought full-page ads in newspapers across the country back in 1987, when Reagan was President, saying that America lacked a backbone and the world was – you guessed it – laughing at us.

TRUMP (1987): "The world is laughing at America's politicians as we protect ships we don't own, carrying oil we don't need, destined for allies who won't help… "Let's not let our great country be laughed at anymore."

And it matters when he makes fun of disabled people...

TRUMP: “Now the poor guy -- you oughta see this guy [imitating disabled reporter] ‘aaah, I don’t know what I said, aaah, I don’t remember.’”

calls women pigs...

TRUMP: “Does everybody know that pig named Rosie O’Donnell? She’s a disgusting pig, right?”

proposes banning an entire religion from our country...

TRUMP: “Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on.”

or plays coy with white supremacists.

TRUMP: "I don't know anything about what you're even talking about with white supremacy or white supremacists. So I don't know. I don't know -- did he endorse me, or what's going on? Because I know nothing about David Duke; I know nothing about white supremacists."

Pick an issue. Preferably a foreign policy issue since the stupid wall and anti-Muslim crap have been beaten to death. Defaulting on our national debt is fine too.

 
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I love how none of the Trumpkins have poked their heads up in here to actually address the substance of Hillary's speech.  Raise your hands if you think Saudi Arabia as a nuclear power is a good idea. How about Trump knowing more about ISIS than the folks in the Pentagon? Torture, deliberately targeting familes? Nuking Syria?

Anyone?
There's a reason Trump has gotten this far with his lack of policies/terrible ideas.

His voters simply don't care. They like him, and that's that.

Policy talk is for you egghead types who were indoctrinated by liberal professors while attending college.

 
There's a reason Trump has gotten this far with his lack of policies/terrible ideas.

His voters simply don't care. They like him think government is broke and life-time politicians are corrupt, and that's that.

Policy talk is for you egghead types who were indoctrinated by liberal professors while attending college.
Good post with one slight revision.

 
There's a reason Trump has gotten this far with his lack of policies/terrible ideas.

His voters simply don't care. They like him, and that's that.

Policy talk is for you egghead types who were indoctrinated by liberal professors while attending college.
Oh, I know. It's fun to watch them try, though. It'll be more fun to see the reactions in November when reality finally sets in.

 
There's a reason Trump has gotten this far with his lack of policies/terrible ideas.

His voters simply don't care. They like him, and that's that.

Policy talk is for you egghead types who were indoctrinated by liberal professors while attending college.
In some cases I don't even think they like him. It's that he's not "one of them", i.e. "the establishment". They don't even care that he's worse than everyone currently there. "BURN IT DOWN!!"

 
I love how none of the Trumpkins have poked their heads up in here to actually address the substance of Hillary's speech.  Raise your hands if you think Saudi Arabia as a nuclear power is a good idea. How about Trump knowing more about ISIS than the folks in the Pentagon? Torture, deliberately targeting familes? Nuking Syria?

Anyone?
I see nothing wrong with anything Trump has said here. We need to take our country back and stabilize the globe!

You've got to break a few eggs to make an omelette and it's better that the eggs are ISIS or a few Europeans than any Americans.

 
You don't fix problems by leaving things the same. Sometimes you need to completely reshuffle the deck.

I'm all for a no-nonsense, non-politically correct President. We can't keep going down this path as a country.

You have to take that Hail Mary shot downfield. You can't keep running the ball for 2 yards and punting on 4th down.

 
I honestly just think that some people see him as a "winner".

They like when he goes on the offensive, and he knows this. When he's making fun of people, or screaming at reporters, he never backs down, never admits fault or defeat, and always gets in the last word.

He's basically an internet troll that's running for President.

Actually, he's literally an internet troll running for President.

 
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Hail Mary success rate is near 0%. I would expect that to be the case here too.
Exactly.  And why is it 4th down???  I just can't even believe that trump supporters believe anything they think and he says.  

Trump is a trust fund baby, dishonest, racist, sexist and an idiot.  I think he has managed to bring out all the racists and closet racists and they are all starting to yell pretty loud.  

 
You don't fix problems by leaving things the same. Sometimes you need to completely reshuffle the deck.

I'm all for a no-nonsense, non-politically correct President. We can't keep going down this path as a country.

You have to take that Hail Mary shot downfield. You can't keep running the ball for 2 yards and punting on 4th down.
This is stupid.

You fix problems by figuring them out and finding the best solution forward not by throwing a hail mary.  

 
Exactly.  And why is it 4th down???  I just can't even believe that trump supporters believe anything they think and he says.  

Trump is a trust fund baby, dishonest, racist, sexist and an idiot.  I think he has managed to bring out all the racists and closet racists and they are all starting to yell pretty loud.  
Are you nuts? We don't have a border. We have groups of people committing mass murder in our country. We are so far into debt that we make Greece look like child's play.

We're becoming a giant welfare state where people rely on the government for money. The government has become big brother and tells everyone how to live their lives and govern society.

Other countries are stealing our jobs and robbing us blind. Our citizens don't like or respect the police. Christianity is being mocked.

We have more social unrest than ever. We have an entire continent being invaded by Muslims. Obamacare is going to cost us trillions of dollars we don't have.

It's a total disgrace, we are on our way to becoming a 3rd world country at the mercy of those who we owe debt.

 
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Did I mention the terrible Iran deal that gave our enemy billions of dollars to conduct nuclear research and promote terrorism?

Yeah, everything is fine. Let's get more of the same in here.

 
I love how none of the Trumpkins have poked their heads up in here to actually address the substance of Hillary's speech.  Raise your hands if you think Saudi Arabia as a nuclear power is a good idea. How about Trump knowing more about ISIS than the folks in the Pentagon? Torture, deliberately targeting familes? Nuking Syria?

Anyone?
I think the Iran nuclear idea was a bad idea, but what would prevent Iran from sharing its technology with the rest of the Muslim world?

 
Are you nuts? We don't have a border. We have groups of people committing mass murder in our country. We are so far into debt that we make Greece look like child's play.

Other countries are stealing our jobs and robbing us blind. Our citizens don't like or respect the police. Christianity is being mocked.

We have more social unrest than ever. We have an entire continent being invaded by Muslims. Obamacare is going to cost us trillions of dollars we don't have.

It's a total disgrace, we are on our way to becoming a 3rd world country at the mercy of those who we owe debt.
We are one of the most successful countries in the world on so many measures...but as a Trump supporter you don't actually care about facts.

 
There's a reason Trump has gotten this far with his lack of policies/terrible ideas.

His voters simply don't care. They like him, and that's that.

Policy talk is for you egghead types who were indoctrinated by liberal professors while attending college.
I like Donald Trump better than Hillary Clinton too. I live and grew up in New York, so I can remember Donald back to years like 1984 or so. Trump Tower, the West Side Trump buildings, Trump in AC, Marla Maples & Ivana. Remember it all. So again, I'm familiar with Donald and I like Donald, certainly more than Hillary. He is entertaining, charismatic, he's been around, he's rich, and he talks a good game.

I also remember at around the same time, people loved Bill Clinton for the most part (pre-Monica), and I think Hillary remembers those times too and wishes she had that connection with people. But she doesn't. She's unlikable, she's "above" people, and she has a pattern of behavior that demonstrates she feel this way.

So having said all that, I really hope that enough people of whatever socioeconomic background come together to make sure a buffoon like the Don doesn't become President. I'm not willing to just say "f it" because I don't like the system. To me, that is unsettling. It reminds me of the tea party in some ways. The mindset is "take ball and go home". This time it's "f the system", but either way it reeks of sore loser behavior. If you're not working towards solutions and just complaining about problems all the time, you are part of the problem. 

So I'll vote for Hillary and I hate her, but I love the country and so I don't just say "f it" with my vote. So call me a liberal, or an egghead, that's fine, but I feel comfortable with my vote.

 
We are one of the most successful countries in the world on so many measures...but as a Trump supporter you don't actually care about facts.
As an ignorant human being, you're discrediting my opinion because of who I support and are making hasty generalizations.

Also, where are your facts?

 
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As an ignorant human being, you're discrediting my opinion because of who I support and are making hasty generalizations.

Also, where are your facts?
At least you recognize everything you said is an opinion because it's not a fact.  You forgot to add the 'war on christmas' and the 'earth is not round'

 
At least you recognize everything you said is an opinion because it's not a fact.  You forgot to add the 'war on christmas' and the 'earth is not round'
It's fine, you'll never realize people like me make it possible for you to live the life you do.

Continue to be a social justice warrior, let the rusted stoics like me and the Donald do the dirty work. There are bad people out there who want to wipe us off the face of the Earth.

They would slit both our throats right here, right now, in the name of Allah.

 
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Have at it. I'd love to hear a coherent defense of any of the garbage that Trump spews. I'm guessing that this will be less entertaining than I'm hoping for, but might be pleasantly surprised.

This is a man who said that more countries should have nuclear weapons, including Saudi Arabia.

ANDERSON COOPER: Saudi Arabia, nuclear weapons?

TRUMP: Saudi Arabia, absolutely.

This is someone who has threatened to abandon our allies in NATO – the countries that work with us to root out terrorists abroad before the strike us at home.

TRUMP: “We don't really need NATO in its current form. NATO is obsolete… if we have to walk, we walk.”

He believes we can treat the U.S. economy like one of his casinos and default on our debts to the rest of the world, which would cause an economic catastrophe far worse than anything we experienced in 2008.

TRUMP: “I’ve borrowed knowing that you can pay back with discounts... I would borrow knowing that if the economy crashed, you could make a deal.”

He has said that he would order our military to carry out torture...

TRUMP: “Don’t tell me it doesn’t work — torture works… Waterboarding is fine, but it’s not nearly tough enough, ok?”

and the murder of civilians who are related to suspected terrorists...

TRUMP: "The other thing with the terrorists is you have to take out their families”

even though those are war crimes.

TRUMP: “They won’t refuse. They’re not going to refuse me, If I say do it, they’re going to do it.”

He says he doesn’t have to listen to our generals or ambassadors, because he has – quote – “a very good brain.”

TRUMP: “I’m speaking with myself, number one, because I have a very good brain and I’ve said a lot of things...my primary consultant is myself”

He also said, “I know more about ISIS than the generals, believe me.”

TRUMP: “I know more about ISIS than the generals do. Believe me.”

You know what?  I don’t believe him.

TRUMP: “We don't even really know who the leader [of ISIS] is.”

He believes climate change is a hoax invented by the Chinese...

TRUMP: “The concept of global warming was created by and for the Chinese in order to make U.S. manufacturing non-competitive.”

and has the gall to say prisoners of war like John McCain aren’t heroes.

TRUMP: “He’s not a war hero. He was a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured, ok? I hate to tell you.”

He praises dictators like Vladimir Putin...

TRUMP: "I will tell you, in terms of leadership, he's getting an 'A,' and our president is not doing so well.”

and picks fights with our friends – including the British prime minister…

TRUMP: "It looks like we are not going to have a very good relationship. Who knows?"

the mayor of London…

TRUMP: "Let's take an I.Q. test... I think they're very rude statements and frankly, tell him, I will remember those statements."

the German chancellor…

TRUMP: “What Merkel has done is incredible, it’s actually mind boggling. Everyone thought she was a really great leader and now she’s turned out to be this catastrophic leader. And she’ll be out if they don’t have a revolution.”

the president of Mexico…

TRUMP: “I don't know about the Hitler comparison [President Nieto made]. I hadn't heard that, but it's a terrible comparison. I'm not happy about that certainly. I don't want that comparison, but we have to be strong and we have to be vigilant”

and the Pope.

TRUMP: “I don’t think [the Pope] understands the danger of the open border that we have with Mexico. I think Mexico got him to [criticize the wall] it because they want to keep the border just the way it is. They’re making a fortune, and we’re losing.”

He says he has foreign policy experience because he ran the Miss Universe pageant in Russia.

TRUMP: “I know Russia well. I had a major event in Russia two or three years ago, Miss Universe contest, which was a big, big, incredible event.”

And to top it off, he believes America is weak.  An embarrassment.

TRUMP: "I think we've become very weak and ineffective."

He called our military a disaster.

TRUMP: “Our military is a disaster.”

He said we’re – quote – a “third-world country.”

TRUMP: “We have become a third world country, folks.”

That’s why it’s no small thing when he talks about leaving NATO or says he’ll stay neutral on Israel’s security.

TRUMP: “Let me be sort of a neutral guy.”

It’s no small thing when he calls Mexican immigrants rapists and murderers.

TRUMP: “When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists.”

And it’s no small thing when he suggests that America should withdraw our military support for Japan, encourage them to get nuclear weapons...

TRUMP: “And frankly, the case could be made, that let them protect themselves against North Korea. They’d probably wipe them out pretty quick.”

and said this about a war between Japan and North Korea – and I quote – “If they do, they do.  Good luck, enjoy yourself, folks.”

TRUMP: “And if they fight, you know what, that would be a terrible thing, terrible. Good luck folks, enjoy yourself…if they do, they do”

Donald Trump doesn’t know the first thing about Iran or its nuclear program.  Ask him.  It’ll become clear very quickly.

TRUMP: “When those restrictions expire, Iran will have an industrial-size military nuclear capability ready to go." (Politifact: False.)

There’s no risk of people losing their lives if you blow up a golf-course deal.  But it doesn’t work like that in world affairs.  Just like being interviewed on the same episode of “60 Minutes” as Putin is not the same as actually dealing with Putin.

TRUMP: “I got to know him very well, because we were both on 60 minutes, we were stablemates and we did very well that night. You know that.”

He wants to start a trade war with China.

TRUMP: "These dummies say, 'Oh, that's a trade war. Trade war? We're losing $500 billion in trade with China. Who the hell cares if there's a trade war?”

And I have to say, I don’t understand Donald’s bizarre fascination with dictators and strongmen who have no love for America.  He praised China for the Tiananmen Square massacre; he said it showed strength.

TRUMP: “When the students poured into Tiananmen Square, the Chinese government almost blew it. Then they were vicious, they were horrible, but they put it down with strength. That shows you the power of strength."

He said, “You’ve got to give Kim Jong Un credit” for taking over North Korea – something he did by murdering everyone he saw as a threat, including his own uncle, which Donald described gleefully, like he was recapping an action movie.

TRUMP: "And you've got to give him credit. How many young guys — he was like 26 or 25 when his father died — take over these tough generals…. It's incredible. He wiped out the uncle. He wiped out this one, that one. I mean, this guy doesn't play games.”

And he said that, if he were grading Vladimir Putin as a leader, he’d give him an A.

TRUMP: "I will tell you, in terms of leadership, he's getting an 'A,'

What’s Trump’s [ISIS plan]?  He won’t say.  He is literally keeping it a secret.  The secret, of course, is he has no idea what he’d do to stop ISIS.

TRUMP: “I do know what to do and I would know how to bring ISIS to the table or beyond that, defeat ISIS very quickly and I’m not going to tell you what is… All I can tell you it is a foolproof way of winning.”

Just look at the few things he actually has said on the subject. He actually said – quote – “maybe Syria should be a free zone for ISIS.”  That’s right – let a terrorist group have control of a major country in the Middle East.

TRUMP: It's really rather amazing, maybe Syria should be a free zone for ISIS, let them fight and then you pick up the remnants.

Then he said we should send tens of thousands of American ground troops to the Middle East to fight ISIS.

TRUMP: "We really have no choice. We have to knock out ISIS. We have to knock the hell out of them… I would listen to the generals but I'm hearing numbers of 20,000 to 30,000. We have to knock them out fast."

He also refused to rule out using nuclear weapons against ISIS, which would mean mass civilian casualties.

TRUMP: “I’m never going to rule anything out—I wouldn’t want to say [if I’d use nuclear weapons against ISIS.]”

Trump says over and over again, “The world is laughing at us.”  He’s been saying this for decades.

TRUMP (1999): "[Saudi Arabians] take such advantage of us with the oil... and they laugh at this country.

TRUMP (2010): "I know many of the people in China, I know many of the big business people, and they're laughing at us.”

TRUMP (2011): “We have become a laughingstock, the world’s whipping boy”

TRUMP (2012): “The world is laughing at us."

TRUMP (2013): “After Syria, our enemies are laughing!”

TRUMP (2014): “Mexican leadership has been laughing at us for many years”

TRUMP (2015): “The Persians are great negotiators. They are laughing at the stupidity of the deal we’re making”

TRUMP (2016): “We can't afford to be so nice and so foolish anymore. Our country is in trouble. ISIS is laughing at us.”

He bought full-page ads in newspapers across the country back in 1987, when Reagan was President, saying that America lacked a backbone and the world was – you guessed it – laughing at us.

TRUMP (1987): "The world is laughing at America's politicians as we protect ships we don't own, carrying oil we don't need, destined for allies who won't help… "Let's not let our great country be laughed at anymore."

And it matters when he makes fun of disabled people...

TRUMP: “Now the poor guy -- you oughta see this guy [imitating disabled reporter] ‘aaah, I don’t know what I said, aaah, I don’t remember.’”

calls women pigs...

TRUMP: “Does everybody know that pig named Rosie O’Donnell? She’s a disgusting pig, right?”

proposes banning an entire religion from our country...

TRUMP: “Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on.”

or plays coy with white supremacists.

TRUMP: "I don't know anything about what you're even talking about with white supremacy or white supremacists. So I don't know. I don't know -- did he endorse me, or what's going on? Because I know nothing about David Duke; I know nothing about white supremacists."

Pick an issue. Preferably a foreign policy issue since the stupid wall and anti-Muslim crap have been beaten to death. Defaulting on our national debt is fine too.
You know, I can see where a lot of people in the US would agree with many of these statements once they are put back into context. 

NATO probably is obsolete, we are protecting oil we don't need, Rosie O'Donnell is not all women, etc. But politicians have been spinning things forever and Trump doesn't spin well. He hyperbolizes though.

 
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Are you nuts? We don't have a border. We have groups of people committing mass murder in our country. We are so far into debt that we make Greece look like child's play.

We're becoming a giant welfare state where people rely on the government for money. The government has become big brother and tells everyone how to live their lives and govern society.

Other countries are stealing our jobs and robbing us blind. Our citizens don't like or respect the police. Christianity is being mocked.

We have more social unrest than ever. We have an entire continent being invaded by Muslims. Obamacare is going to cost us trillions of dollars we don't have.

It's a total disgrace, we are on our way to becoming a 3rd world country at the mercy of those who we owe debt.
This rant is typical of Trump's supporters. It is why they would support anyone who is not establishment. While some of it is exaggeration, it is what is driving Trump's campaign. There is a huge disconnect between the rulers and the ruled.

 
Are you nuts? We don't have a border. We have groups of people committing mass murder in our country. We are so far into debt that we make Greece look like child's play.

We're becoming a giant welfare state where people rely on the government for money. The government has become big brother and tells everyone how to live their lives and govern society.

Other countries are stealing our jobs and robbing us blind. Our citizens don't like or respect the police. Christianity is being mocked.

We have more social unrest than ever. We have an entire continent being invaded by Muslims. Obamacare is going to cost us trillions of dollars we don't have.

It's a total disgrace, we are on our way to becoming a 3rd world country at the mercy of those who we owe debt.
When I have fantasies they usually involve multiple women and tropical locations, but hey, we're each free to fantasize in our own way.

 
Eminence is the @PFTcommenter of the FFA, and just like that twitter account, a lot of the humor is the people that don't get the joke and either argue or agree with him.  :lol:

 
This rant is typical of Trump's supporters. It is why they would support anyone who is not establishment. While some of it is exaggeration, it is what is driving Trump's campaign. There is a huge disconnect between the rulers and the ruled.
Some exaggeration? It's a complete pile of horse### cribbed directly from Trump talking points. Obviously there's no point in talking with someone as ignorant as Eminence, at least until he hits World History 101 at his CC, but you're smarter than this. By pretty much any measurable method of determining things, we're much better off now than we were a decade ago. It's not even remotely arguable.

Anyway, I'm not looking for regurgitated sound bytes -- I was hoping for a specific discussion on Trump's foreign "policy" ideas. Probably too much to ask -- anyone capable of having that discussion certainly isn't supporting Trump in the first place.

 
Are you nuts? We don't have a border. We have groups of people committing mass murder in our country. We are so far into debt that we make Greece look like child's play.

We're becoming a giant welfare state where people rely on the government for money. The government has become big brother and tells everyone how to live their lives and govern society.

Other countries are stealing our jobs and robbing us blind. Our citizens don't like or respect the police. Christianity is being mocked.

We have more social unrest than ever. We have an entire continent being invaded by Muslims. Obamacare is going to cost us trillions of dollars we don't have.

It's a total disgrace, we are on our way to becoming a 3rd world country at the mercy of those who we owe debt.


Did I mention the terrible Iran deal that gave our enemy billions of dollars to conduct nuclear research and promote terrorism?

Yeah, everything is fine. Let's get more of the same in here.
I mean, if posts like this don't turn people away from Trump, nothing will.

 
Some exaggeration? It's a complete pile of horse### cribbed directly from Trump talking points. Obviously there's no point in talking with someone as ignorant as Eminence, at least until he hits World History 101 at his CC, but you're smarter than this. By pretty much any measurable method of determining things, we're much better off now than we were a decade ago. It's not even remotely arguable.

Anyway, I'm not looking for regurgitated sound bytes -- I was hoping for a specific discussion on Trump's foreign "policy" ideas. Probably too much to ask -- anyone capable of having that discussion certainly isn't supporting Trump in the first place.
Or is Trump cribbing America's feelings? Trump's foreign policy ideas are, at best, half-baked. At worst, they are completely unformulated. But Trump's popularity isn't about policy (unfortunately). It is about frustration with the status quo.

 
Have at it. I'd love to hear a coherent defense of any of the garbage that Trump spews. I'm guessing that this will be less entertaining than I'm hoping for, but might be pleasantly surprised.

This is a man who said that more countries should have nuclear weapons, including Saudi Arabia.

ANDERSON COOPER: Saudi Arabia, nuclear weapons?

TRUMP: Saudi Arabia, absolutely.

This is someone who has threatened to abandon our allies in NATO – the countries that work with us to root out terrorists abroad before the strike us at home.

TRUMP (1999): "[Saudi Arabians] take such advantage of us with the oil... and they laugh at this country.
So the people laughing at USA, that he claims backed the 9/11 attacks should have nukes.

I suppose these are merely suggestions...

 
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