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Top 250 Best Selling Rock Albums (1967 - 1981) (1 Viewer)

Anarchy99

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A little while ago, @timschochet posted his Top 100 Greatest Classic Rock Albums Of All Time, which spanned from 1967-1981. That list was well-thought out, entertaining, and sparked a lot of debate and conversation. There was some discussion as to what was considered classic rock, that additional artists should have been considered / included, and that some albums ranked too high / too low (or did not merit inclusion at all).

To expand the discussion on performers across that same timeframe, I decided to compile a list of the Top 250 Best Selling Rock Albums from those same years. If my math is right, there will be more albums and more artists on this list. I extended the boundaries of what is a "rock" artist to include some albums that got left off of the last list. Sorry to disappoint, but Barbra Streisand and ABBA still have been ruled out.

What makes it and what doesn't?

- Any rock album that was released in 1967-1981 . . . whether it got airplay or not, whether it charted or not, whether it had any singles or not (or whether it's any good or not).
- Any album that has at least 50% new material . . . so most of the greatest hits compilations won't be considered.
- IMO, I considered live albums as new recordings and count as new material, so live albums are fair game.
- Soundtracks are included if they sold enough copies.

To further clarify, all I considered was total album sales . . . albums, cassettes, 8-tracks, CDs, paid full album downloads, or whatever else is considered an album sale. How many singles it had, how many YouTube or Spotify song plays it got, how many promos were given away for free . . . none of those count. Not total album sales through 1981 . . . total reported album sales through 2023.

The sales totals I researched are "official." But official doesn't mean a whole heck of a lot. All that means is someone, somewhere, at some point filed paperwork alleging that ALBUM X sold a certain number of units worldwide. I have no idea if those records were audited and verified, if they were ever updated, how long ago those documents were filed, if someone got bribed to up the total, etc. Similarly, I cannot attest that every record label followed the same reporting criteria, that the sales office in Uganda submitted their sales numbers or not, or ultimately how accurate the total figures are.

What does this all mean? All of these albums sold 3+ million copies. There are 17 albums that sold that many that AREN'T included, but I didn't feel like calling the thread the Top 267 albums. It also means that 20 albums from Tim's list didn't make the cut for this list.

It also means that there isn't any bias or opinion involved in the rankings. I didn't determine the rankings . . . it's just a ranking of reported sales figures. Don't like where your favorite album is ranked? Talk to the people that didn't buy a copy. You think people have no taste? Feel free to point out the error of their ears. Wouldn't wipe your bottom with this list, so be it.

I suspect this will be an interesting list. I admit to not knowing some of the artists and some of the albums. That alone was very surprising. It was also eye opening to see just how well some performers sold. There are some albums listed here that I shelled out money for at least 5 times . . . for instance, the original vinyl album, a replacement vinyl album when the first one got played too much, an 8-track or a cassette, the CD, a deluxe edition CD, and a super deluxe anniversary edition).

To save time (and sanity), I will be posting the list of albums in groups of 5 to start. I haven't figured out how many to release at a time the closer we get to the end. I am sure there will be bedlam and outrage in the streets over some of the listings / results for albums. I have no idea how much availability I will have, so not sure how long it will be between updates. Anyway, that's the outline.
 
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#250 - STYX - Paradise Theater (1981) (3.16 million albums)
#249 - LYNYRD SKYNYRD - One More From The Road (1976) (3.17 million albums)
#248 - ELECTRIC LIGHT ORCHESTRA - Discovery (1979) (3.182 million albums)
#247 - STEVE MILLER BAND - Book Of Dreams (1977) (3.185 million albums)
#244T - BOB DYLAN - Street-Legal (1978) (3.2 million albums)
#244T - BOB DYLAN - John Wesley Harding (1968) (3.2 million albums)
#244T - BILLY SQUIER - Don't Say No (1981) (3.2 million albums)
#243 - ELVIS PRESLEY - Elvis In Concert (1977) (3.204 million albums)
#242 - HEART - Little Queen (1977) (3.206 million albums)
#240T - TOM PETTY & THE HEARTBREAKERS - Damn The Torpedoes (1979) (3.215 million albums)
#240T - GENESIS - Foxtrot (1972) (3.215 million albums)
#239 - NEIL YOUNG WITH CRAZY HORSE - Rust Never Sleeps (1979) (3.22 million albums)
#238 - NEIL YOUNG WITH CRAZY HORSE - Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere (1969) (3.265 million albums)
#236T - PAUL SIMON - Still Crazy After All These Years (1975) (3.27 million albums)
#236T - ELTON JOHN - Madman Across The Water (1971) (3.27 million albums)
#235 - ELTON JOHN - Honky Chateau (1972) (3.28 million albums)
#234 - BILLY JOEL - Songs In The Attic (1981) (3.286 million albums)
#233 - RUSH - 2112 (1976) (3.3 million albums)
#232 - BLACK SABBATH - Heaven And Hell (1980) (3.44 million albums)
#231 - DAVID BOWIE - Scary Monsters (And Super Creeps) (1980) (3.45 million albums)
#230 - GENESIS - Wind & Wuthering (1976) (3.47 million)
#229 - AEROSMITH - Aerosmith (1973) (3.54 million)
#228 - BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN - The Wild, The Innocent & The E Street Shuffle (1973) (3.55 million)
#227 - DEEP PURPLE - Fireball (1971) (3.56 million albums)
#223T - U2 - October (1981) (3.6 million albums)
#223T - PINK FLOYD - Obscured By Clouds (1972) (3.6 million albums)
#223T - BOB DYLAN - Slow Train Coming (1979) (3.6 million albums)
#223T - BACHMAN-TURNER OVERDRIVE - Not Fragile (1974) (3.6 million albums)
#222 - CHEAP TRICK - At Budokan (1979) (3.636 million albums)
#221 - THE BEATLES - Hey Jude (1970) (3.637 million albums)
#220 - DAVID BOWIE - Diamond Dogs (1974) (3.65 million albums)
#219 - GEORGE HARRISON - All Things Must Pass (1970) (3.66 million albums)
#217T - U2 - Boy (1980) (3.7 million albums)
#217T - ROLLING STONES - It's Only Rock 'N Roll (1974) (3.7 million albums)
#216 - LINDA RONSTADT - Simple Dreams (1977) (3.72 million albums)
#215 - ROD STEWART - Tonight I'm Yours (3.74 million albums)
#213T - GENESIS - The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway (1974) (3.76 million albums)
#213T - ELTON JOHN - Caribou (1974) (3.76 million albums)
#212 - JOURNEY - Evolution (1979) (3.77 million albums)
#210T - THE EAGLES - Desperado (1973) (3.8 million albums)
#210T - BOB DYLAN - Nashville Skyline (1969) (3.8 million)
#209 - JOURNEY - Departure (1980) (3.81 million albums)
#208 - ELVIS PRESLEY - Moody Blue (1977) (3.82 million albums)
#207 - WINGS - London Town (1978) (3.86 million albums)
#205T - SUPERTRAMP - Crisis? What Crisis? (1975) (3.87 million albums)
#205T - ROD STEWART - Never A Dull Moment (1972) (3.87 million albums)
#204 - AEROSMITH - Get Your Wings (1974) (3.88 million albums)
#203 - WINGS - Wings At The Speed Of Sound (1976) (3.89 million albums)
#202 - CREAM - Wheels Of Fire (1968) (3.94 million albums)
#201 - BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN - Greeting From Ashbury Park, N.J. (1973) (3.95 million)
 
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#200 - PAUL & LINDA MCCARTNEY - Ram (1971) (3.96 million albums)
#199 - BLUES BROTHERS - Original Soundtrack Recording (1980) (3.97 million albums)
#195T - WINGS - Venus And Mars (1975) (4 million albums)
#195T - ROLLING STONES - Beggars Banquet (4 million albums)
#195T - LOVERBOY - Loverboy (1980) (4 million albums)
#195T - KISS - Love Gun (1977) (4 million albums)
#194 - THE CARS - Candy-o (1979) (4.007 million albums)
#193 - GENESIS - A Trick Of The Tail (4.01 million albums)
#192 - THE WHO - Who's Next (1971) (4.02 million albums)
#190T - VAN HALEN - Fair Warning (4.03 million albums)
#190T - BLACK SABBATH - Sabbath Bloody Sabbath (1973) (4.03 million albums)
#189 - BLOOD, SWEAT & TEARS - Blood, Sweat & Tears (1968) (4.031 million albums)
#188 - DEEP PURPLE - Burn (1974) (4.06 million albums)
#184T - THE ROLLING STONES - Black And Blue (1973) (4.1 million albums)
#184T - KANSAS - Point Of No Return (1977) (4.1 million albums)
#184T - KANSAS - Leftoverture (1976) (4.1 million albums)
#184T - BOB SEGER - Nine Tonight (1981) (4.1 million copies)
#183 - BLACK SABBATH - Vol. 4 (1972) (4.12 million copies)
#182 - VAN MORRISON - Moondance (1970) (4.13 million copies)
#181 - SANTANA - Moonflower (1977) (4.14 million albums)
#180 - IRON MAIDEN - Iron Maiden (1980) (4.17 million albums)
#178T - SANTANA - Caravanserai (1972) (4.2 million albums)
#178T - THE BEATLES - Yellow Submarine (1969) (4.2 million albums)
#177 - QUEEN - Sheer Heart Attack (1974) (4.24 million albums)
#176 - THE EAGLES - On The Border (1974) (4.27 million albums)
#174T - STEVE MILLER BAND - Fly Like An Eagle (1976) (4.3 million albums)
#173 - PAUL MCCARTNEY - McCartney (1970) (4.31 million albums)
#172 - JOURNEY - Infinity (1978) (4.42 million albums)
#171 - CREEDENCE CLEARWATER REVIVAL - Bayou Country (1969) (4.45 million albums)
#170 - CREEDENCE CLEARWATER REVIVAL - Pendulum (1970) (4.49 million albums)
#169 - THE DOORS - The Soft Parade (1969) (4.59 million albums)
#168 - JANIS JOPLIN - Pearl (1971) (4.61 million albums)
#167 - GENESIS - . . . And The There Were Three . . . (1978) (4.64 million albums)
#166 - GENESIS - Selling England By The Pound (1973) (4.66 million albums)
#165 - JIMI HENDRIX EXPERIENCE: Axis: Bold As Love (1967) (4.68 million albums)
#163T - JIMI HENDRIX - Band Of Gypsys (1970) (4.7 million albums)
#163T - DAVID BOWIE - Hunky Dory (1971) (4.7 million albums)
#162 - LED ZEPPELIN - The Song Remains The Same (1976) (4.79 million albums)
#161 - BLACK SABBATH - Master Of Reality (1971) (4.81 million albums)
#160 - PAT BENATAR - Crimes Of Passion (1980) (4.83 million albums)
#159 - IRON MAIDEN - Killers (1981) (4.85 million albums)
#158 - DAVID BOWIE - Aladdin Sane (1973) (4.9 million copies)
#157 - BLACK SABBATH - Black Sabbath (1970)
#156 - GENESIS - Duke (1980) (4.94 million albums)
#155 - CROSBY, STILLS, NASH & YOUNG - 4 Way Street (1971) (4.98 million albums)
#152T - STEVIE NICKS - Bella Donna (1981) (5 million)
#152T - THE KNACK - Get The Knack (1979) (5 million albums)
#152T - ELVIS PRESLEY - Elvis (1973) (5 million albums)
#151 - THE MONKEES - More Of The Monkees (5.01 million albums)
 
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#150 - FOREIGNER - Head Games (1979) (5.02 million albums)
#149 - PINK FLOYD - Ummagumma (1969) (5.05 million)
#148 - ROD STEWART - Atlantic Crossing (5.07 million albums)
#147 - BAD COMPANY - Bad Company (1974) (5.1 million albums)
#146 - BOB SEGER - Live Bullet (1976) (5.2 million copies)
#145 - AC/DC - Powerage (1978) (5.22 million albums)
#144 - FOREIGNER - Foreigner (1977) (5.224 million albums)
#143 - SIMON & GARFUNKEL - Bookends (1968) (5.3 million albums)
#142 - AEROSMITH - Rocks (1976) (5.35 million albums)
#141 - CREEDENCE CLEARWATER REVIVAL - Green River (1969) (5.36 million albums)
#140 - ELVIS PRESLEY - Aloha From Hawaii (1973) (5.366 million albums)
#139 - VAN HALEN - Women And Children First (1980) (5.38 million albums)
#138 - QUEEN - A Day At The Races (1976) (5.39 million albums)
#137 - BOZ SCAGGS - Silk Degrees (1976) (5.392 million albums)
#136 - BLIND FAITH - Blind Faith (1969) (5.395 million albums)
#135 - SANTANA - Santana III (1971) (5.44 million albums)
#134 - ELTON JOHN - Don't Shoot Me I'm Only The Piano Player (1973) (5.46 million albums)
#133 - BOB SEGER & THE SILVER BULLET BAND - Against The Wind (1980) (5.51 million albums)
#132 - CREEDENCE CLEARWATER REVIVAL - Willie And The Poor Boys (1969) (5.54 million albums)
#131 - ROD STEWART - A Night On The Town (1976) (5.56 million albums)
#130 - STEVIE WONDER - Songs In The Key Of Life (1976) (5.62 million albums)
#129 - OZZY OSBOURNE - Diary Of A Madman (1981) (5.62 million albums)
#128 - ERIC CLAPTON - 461 Ocean Boulevard (1974) (5.67 million albums)
#125T - THE ROLLING STONES - Emotional Rescue (1980) (5.7 million albums)
#125T - PINK FLOYD - Atom Heart Mother (1970) (5.7 million albums)
#125T - BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN & THE E STREET BAND - Darkness On The Edge Of Town (1978) (5.7 million albums)
#124 - RUSH - Moving Pictures (1981) (5.71 million albums)
#123 - THE DOORS - Strange Days (1967) (5.76 million albums)
#122 - DEEP PURPLE - Deep Purple In Rock (1970) (5.77 million albums)
#121 - QUEEN - Jazz (1978) (5.84 million albums)
#120 - ELTON JOHN - Captain Fantastic And The Brown Dirt Cowboy (1975) (5.91 million albums)
#119 - NEIL DIAMOND - The Jazz Singer Soundtrack (1980) (5.97 million albums)
#118 - DEREK & THE DOMINOS - Layla & Other Assorted Love Songs (1970) (6.04 million albums)
#117 - AC/DC - Let There Be Rock (1977) (6.2 million albums)
#116 - THE POLICE - Outlandos d'Amour (1978) (6.25 million albums)
#115 - THE DOORS - Waiting For The Sun (1968) (6.27 million albums)
#114 - BOB SEGER & THE SILVER BULLET BAND - Night Moves (1976) (6.3 million albums)
#112T - THE ROLLING STONES - Goats Head Soup (1973) (6.35 million albums)
#112T - CROSBY, STILLS & NASH - CSN (1977) (6.35 million albums)
#111 - SUPERTRAMP - Even In The Quietest Moments . . . (1977) (6.37 million albums)
#110 - GENESIS - Abacab (1981) (6.39 million albums)
#109 - THE CARS - The Cars (1978) (6.41 million albums)
#108 - ROD STEWART - Footloose & Fancy Free (1977) (6.48 million albums)
#107 - BOB SEGER & THE SILVER BULLET BAND - Stranger In Town (1978) (6.51 million albums)
#106 - FLEETWOOD MAC - Tusk (1979) (6.6 million albums)
#105 - THE EAGLES - Eagles Live (1980) (6.65 million albums)
#103T -NEIL YOUNG - After The Gold Rush (1970) (6.67 million albums)
#103T- CROSBY, STILLS & NASH - Crosby, Stills & Nash (1969) (6.67 million albums)
#102 - BILLY JOEL - Piano Man (1973) (6.7 million albums)
#101 - SANTANA - Santana (1970) (6.75 million albums)
 
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#100 - BOB DYLAN - Blood On The Tracks (1975) (6.8 million albums)
#99 - CREAM - Disraeli Gears (1967) (6.81 million albums)
#95T - STEVE WINWOOD - Arc Of A Diver (1980) (7 million albums)
#95T - THE ROLLING STONES - Let It Bleed (1969) (7 million albums)
#95T - JETHRO TULL - Aqualung (1971) (7 million albums)
#95T - DIRE STRAITS - Communique (1979) (7 million albums)
#94 - DIRE STRAITS - Making Movies (1980) (7.04 million albums)
#93 - THE DOORS - Morrison Hotel (1970) (7.13 million albums)
#92 - THE EAGLES - One Of These Nights (1975) (7.17 million albums)
#91 - FOREIGNER - Double Vision (1978) (7.2 million albums)
#90 - VAN HALEN II (1979) (7.22 million albums)
#89 - LED ZEPPELIN - Presence (1976) (7.3 million albums)
#88 - FOREIGNER - 4 (1981) (7.35 million albums)
#87 - OZZY OSBOURNE - Blizzard Of Ozz (1980) (7.37 million albums)
#86 - ROD STEWART - Every Picture Tells A Story (1971) (7.43 million)
#85 - MEN AT WORK - Business As Usual (1981) (7.47 million albums)
#84 - AC/DC - High Voltage (1976) (7.55 million albums)
#83 - BOB DYLAN - Desire (1976) (7.7 million albums)
#82 - THE JIMI HENDRIX EXPERIENCE - Electric Ladyland (1969) (7.71 million albums)
#81 - JACKSON BROWNE - Running On Empty (1977) (7.74 million albums)
#80 - ERIC CLAPTON - Slowhand (1977) (7.8 million albums)
#79 - PINK FLOYD - Meddle (1971) (7.95 million albums)
#78 - THE ROLLING STONES - Exile On Main St. (1972) (8.1 million albums)
#77 - THE POLICE - Regatta De Blanc (1979) (8.12 million albums)
#76 - THE POLICE - Ghost In The Machine (1981) (8.13 million albums)
#75 - JOHN LENNON - Imagine (1971) (8.22 million albums)
#74 - THE ROLLING STONES - Tattoo You (1981) (8.5 million albums)
#73 - DAVID BOWIE - The Rise And Fall Of Ziggy Stardust And The Spiders From Mars (1972) (8.55 million albums)
#72 - PAUL MCCARTNEY & WINGS - Band On The Run (1973) (8.63 million albums)
#71 - SUPERTRAMP - Crime Of The Century (1974) (8.72 million albums)
#70 - THE POLICE - Zenyatta Modatta (1980) (8.82 million)
#69 - KISS - Alive! (1975) (9 million albums)
#68 - CREEDENCE CLEARWATER REVIVAL - Cosmo's Factory (1970) (9.03 million albums)
#67 - DEEP PURPLE - Machine Head (1972) (9.04 million albums)
#66 - THE JIMI HENDRIX EXPERIENCE - Are You Experienced (1967) (9.2 million)
#65 - QUEEN - The Game (1980) (9.33 million albums)
#64 - THE ROLLING STONES - Sticky Fingers (1971) (9.35 million albums)
#63 - FLEETWOOD MAC - Fleetwood Mac (1975) (9.4 million albums)
#62 - QUEEN - News Of The World (1977) (9.54 million copies)
#61 - JOHN LENNON & YOKO ONO - Double Fantasy (1980) (9.92 million albums)
#59T - NEIL DIAMOND - Jonathan Living Seagull Soundtrack (1973) (10 million albums)
#59T - ELECTRIC LIGHT ORCHESTRA - Out Of The Blue (1977) (10 million albums)
#58 - AC/DC - For Those About To Rock We Salute You (1981) (10.04 million albums)
#57 - BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN - The River (1980) (10.05 million albums)
#56 - THE DOORS - L.A. Woman (1971) (10.13 million albums)
#55 - AEROSMITH - Toys In The Attic (1975) (10.18 million albums)
#54 - BOSTON - Don't Look Back (1978) (10.47 million albums)
#53 - THE BEATLES - Magical Mystery Tour (1967) (10.6 million albums)
#52 - BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN - Born To Run (1975) (10.7 million albums)
#51 - AC/DC - Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap (1976) (10.97 million albums)
 
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#50 - BILLY JOEL - Glass Houses (1980) (11 million albums)
#49 - THE EAGLES - The Long Run (1979) (11.15 million albums)
#48 - THE ROLLING STONE - Some Girls (1978) (11.3 million albums)
#47 - QUEEN - A Night At The Opera (1975) (11.4 million albums)
#46 - LED ZEPPELIN - In Through The Out Door (1979) (11.5 million albums)
#45 - JOURNEY - Escape (1981) (11.85 million albums)
#44 - SANTANA - Abraxis (1970) (11.87 million albums)
#43 - THE BEATLES - Let It Be (1970) (11.9 million albums)
#42 - BLACK SABBATH - Paranoid (1970) (12 million albums)
#41 - PINK FLOYD - Animals (1977) (12.15 million albums)
#40 - BILLY JOEL - 52nd Street (1978) (13.3 million albums)
#39 - LED ZEPPELIN - Physical Graffiti (1975) (13.4 million albums)
#38 - LED ZEPPELIN - Led Zeppelin III (1970) (13.7 million albums)
#37 - ROD STEWART - Blondes Have More Fun (1978) (14 million albums)
#36 - CROSBY, STILLS, NASH & YOUNG - Deja Vu (1970) (14.6 million albums)
#34T - JEFF WAYNE - Musical Version Of The War Of The Worlds (1978) (15 million albums)
#34T- DIRE STRAITS - Dire Straits (1978) (15 million albums)
#33- AC/DC - Highway To Hell (1970) (15.15 million albums)
#32 - BILLY JOEL - The Stranger (1977) (15.3 million albums)
#31 - NEIL YOUNG - Harvest (1972) (15.32 million albums)
#30 - VAN HALEN - Van Halen (1978) (15.57 million albums)
#29 - PHIL COLLINS - Face Value (1981) (15.64 million albums)
#28 - LED ZEPPELIN - Led Zeppelin (1969) (15.8 million albums)
#27 - PETER FRAMPTON - Frampton Comes Alive! (1976) (17 million albums)
#26 - LED ZEPPELIN - Houses Of The Holy (1973) (17.7 million albums)
#24T - JEAN-MICHEL JARRE - Oxygene (1976) (18 million albums)
#24T - MIKE OLDFIELD - Tubular Bells (1973) (18 million albums)
#23 - SUPERTRAMP - Breakfast In America (1979) (19 million albums)
#19T - THE WHO - Tommy (1969) (20 million albums)
#19T - REO SPEEDWAGON - High Infidelity (1980) (20 million albums)
#19T - THE DOORS - The Doors (1967) (20 million albums)
#19T - BLONDIE - Parallel Lines (1978) 20 million albums)
#18 - LED ZEPPELIN - Led Zeppelin II (1969) (21.9 million albums)
#17 - PINK FLOYD - Wish You Were Here (1975) (23 million albums)
#16 - THE BEATLES - The Beatles ("The White Album") (1968) (24 million albums)
#13T - SIMON & GARFUNKEL - Bridge Over Troubled Water (1970) (25 million albums)
#13T - CAROLE KING - Tapestry (1971) (25 million albums)
#13T - BOSTON - Boston (1976) (25 million albums)
#12 - THE BEATLES - Abbey Road (1969) (27.6 million albums)
#11 - IRON BUTTERFLY - In-A-Godda-Da-Vida (1968) (30 million albums)
#10 - ELTON JOHN - Goodbye Yellow Brick Road (1973) (31 million albums)
#09 - THE BEATLES - Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (1967) (32 million albums)
#08 - PINK FLOYD - The Wall (1979) (33 million albums)
#07 - LED ZEPPELIN - Led Zeppelin IV (1971) (37 million albums)
#06 - VARIOUS ARTISTS - Grease: The Original Soundtrack From The Motion Picture (1978) (38.1 million albums)
#05 - FLEETWOOD MAC - Rumours (1977) (40 million albums)
#04 - EAGLES - Hotel California (1976) (42 million albums)
#03 - MEAT LOAF - Bat Out Of Hell (1977) (43 million albums)
#01T - PINK FLOYD - Dark Side Of The Moon (1973) (50 million albums)
01T - AC/DC - Back In Black (1980) (50 million albums)
 
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#250 - STYX - Paradise Theater (1981) (3.16 million albums)
Notable songs: The Best Of Times (#3 Billboard Singles Chart), Too Much Time On My Hands (#8), Nothing Ever Goes As Planner (#54), Rocking The Paradise (#8 Rock Chart), Snowblind (#22 Rock Chart)

This was the top-selling Styx album (but did not make Tim's list). The Grand Illusion was Tim's #67 album and Pieces of Eight was #92. Each of those sold 3.1 million copies and just missed the Top 250. I saw Styx several times over the years (basically once every 10 years), and they always put on an enjoyable show.

#249 - LYNYRD SKYNYRD - One More From The Road (1976) (3.17 million albums)
Notable songs: Live versions of Free Bird (#38), Gimme Three Steps (didn't chart), Sweet Home Alabama, T For Texas, Crossroads, most of their other hits)

The original 1976 release contained 14 tracks and for years was the only live album pre-plane crash (two came out in 2009). The deluxe edition that came out in 2001 featured 24 songs and clocks in at over 2.5 hours. For those that like live albums and Southern rock, the deluxe version is an enjoyable listen. Like Styx, this is the best-selling Skynyrd album . . . meaning none of their studio albums made this list.

#248 - ELECTRIC LIGHT ORCHESTRA - Discovery (1979) (3.182 million albums)
Notable songs: Don't Bring Me Down (#4), Shine A Little Love #8), Confusion (#37), Last Train To London (#39), The Diary Of Horace Wimp (didn't chart)

For those too young to remember, ELO was big in the 70s and early 80s, ending up with 20 Top 40 hits on the US singles chart. Jeff Lynne later moved on to The Traveling Wilburys (who oddly enough never had a Top 40 single).

#247 - STEVE MILLER BAND - Book Of Dreams (1977) (3.185 million albums)
Notable songs: Jet Airliner (#8), Swingtown (#17), Jungle Love (#23)

Steve Miller songs were all over the airwaves in the mid- to late 70's. His greatest hits album from that timeframe has sold over 15 million copies. Miller hasn't released any new studio material in 14 years, but that hasn't stopped him from touring almost every year since with a total of 1,700 shows across his career.

#244T - BOB DYLAN - Street-Legal (1978) (3.2 million albums)
Notable songs: Baby Stop Crying, Is Your Love In Vain?, Changing Of The Guards (all released as singles but didn't chart)

The album hit #11 on the Billboard album charts. Dylan has written some very popular songs, but I don't know any of the songs on this one.

#244T - BOB DYLAN - John Wesley Harding (1968) (3.2 million albums)
Notable songs: All Along The Watchtower (didn't chart), Title Track, I Dreamed I Saw St. Augustine

Just like that, we get TWO Dylan albums. The JWH album has been included in Rolling Stone's Top 500 albums of all-time in the past (not sure if it's on the most recent list). I know some people will say this is folk and not rock, but it's in the rock universe.
 
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#250 - STYX - Paradise Theater (1981) (3.16 million albums)
Notable songs: The Best Of Times (#3 Billboard Singles Chart), Too Much Time On My Hands (#8), Nothing Ever Goes As Planner (#54), Rocking The Paradise (#8 Rock Chart), Snowblind (#22 Rock Chart)
I would have thought this would be higher than the other 4 in this group. In 1981, this album was as ubiquitous as they got, it seemed. But I guess it didn’t translate to album sales as much as I would have thought.
 
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#250 - STYX - Paradise Theater (1981) (3.16 million albums)
Notable songs: The Best Of Times (#3 Billboard Singles Chart), Too Much Time On My Hands (#8), Nothing Ever Goes As Planner (#54), Rocking The Paradise (#8 Rock Chart), Snowblind (#22 Rock Chart)
I would have thought this would be higher than the other 4 in this group. In 1981, this album was as ubiquitous as they got, it seemed. But I guess it didn’t translate to album sales as much as I would have thought.
That early-80s arena rock space was pretty splintered back then. It was hard for fans of the genre to have ALL the hot albums of the time -- so I'm curious how much of a dent the availability of blank cassette tapes and then-current stereo systems put into some of these albums.

Something else: I kind of think Styx is not the kind of act that would get a big bump out of Internet-era metrics. So maybe Paradise Theater sold 2.5 million within, say, two years of release, but then has never really gotten big Internet numbers to "pad their stats".

I dunno ... just some working theories.

One more: Styx released a lot of albums relatively close together (especially by today's standards). They could have cannibalized from each to some extent.
 
I think one element that will play a part in all this is the type of contract each artist had. If a group did not get a cut of the album sales, there would not be pressure on the label to update their sales records. But if a band gets something from every reported sale, one would guess they would have a representative all over the record company to release updated sales data.
 
If a group did not get a cut of the album sales

Groups will almost always, always get a cut of album sales. It's in the standard recording contract. (I took music law and licensing along with copyright law, and I had to look at sample contracts and what is usually included, and a group will almost always—99.9%—make some money from album sales, the question is whether or not they cover the advance to actually see that money.) At least to the best of my knowledge they do.
 

See royalties. The whole advance/recoupment part of the contract is based on how much you get per record sold. I'm sure you can work around that, but it's gotta be so rare.
 
Contracts now are different than 55 years ago. It’s a lot harder for labels to cheat artists. I know a lot of bands got swindled back in the day. I just don’t remember when the industry was forced to add in more royalty and per unit sales.
 
The presence of Street Legal on this list is a testament to how fervent Dylan’s fanbase was in the 70s. The album got poor reviews, is saddled with questionable production choices, has few truly memorable songs, and by the 80s when I was old enough to control the dial, had zero FM radio presence (dunno about before then). Yet it sold more than 3 million copies.
 
This is the best-selling Skynyrd album . . . meaning none of their studio albums made this list.
Double albums get counted twice for sales purposes. This record actually sold 1.585 million copies, but because it has 2 discs, it gets counted as 3.17 million.

I suspect that we’ll see a lot more double albums for that reason. And that Skynyrd isn’t the only artist to have a double live album as their highest ranker.
 
This is the best-selling Skynyrd album . . . meaning none of their studio albums made this list.
Double albums get counted twice for sales purposes. This record actually sold 1.585 million copies, but because it has 2 discs, it gets counted as 3.17 million.

I suspect that we’ll see a lot more double albums for that reason. And that Skynyrd isn’t the only artist to have a double live album as their highest ranker.
Show us the way
 
This is the best-selling Skynyrd album . . . meaning none of their studio albums made this list.
Double albums get counted twice for sales purposes. This record actually sold 1.585 million copies, but because it has 2 discs, it gets counted as 3.17 million.

I suspect that we’ll see a lot more double albums for that reason. And that Skynyrd isn’t the only artist to have a double live album as their highest ranker.
Show us the way
That is the obvious one that comes to mind. We might be able to fill the list with more.
 
Great thread! Both Paradise Theater and Book of Dreams were considered for my thread. Actually Book of Dreams just missed out. It’s probably Miller’s strongest pop album, but not quite good enough. Miller, however, has some tremendous blues albums from the early 70s, before he became a huge radio star.
 
Sorry to disappoint, but ABBA still have been ruled out.
Booooo!!!
The sales totals I researched are "official." But official doesn't mean a whole heck of a lot. All that means is someone, somewhere, at some point filed paperwork alleging that ALBUM X sold a certain number of units worldwide. I have no idea if those records were audited and verified, if they were ever updated, how long ago those documents were filed, if someone got bribed to up the total, etc
Yeah it doesnt mean a lot.
There are numerous cases of fraudulent reporting.
I mean a guys job is on the line if album X doesnt sell X amount of copies so funny how they creep over the line.

In an industry where if you arent exploiting children, women, the artist etc, you are being exploited. Yeah numbers dont mean ****.

Still got to base it on something, so better than anything else lol
 
The presence of Street Legal on this list is a testament to how fervent Dylan’s fanbase was in the 70s. The album got poor reviews, is saddled with questionable production choices, has few truly memorable songs, and by the 80s when I was old enough to control the dial, had zero FM radio presence (dunno about before then). Yet it sold more than 3 million copies.
Now Dylan, I think, might have a significant Internet-era bump in his stats.
 
#244T - BILLY SQUIER - Don't Say No (1981) (3.2 million albums)
Notable songs: The Stroke (#17), In The Dark (#35), My Kinda Lover (#45), Lonely Is The Night (#28 AOR Chart)

Don't Say No was one of Squier's two Top 5 albums and featured half of his four Top 40 hits. He timed the MTV era and big hair rock scene just right. He had 3-4 years where he was a regular on FM radio.

#243 - ELVIS PRESLEY - Elvis In Concert (1977) (3.204 million albums)
Notable songs: My Way (#22), America (didn't chart), Hound Dog, Jailhouse Rock, Don't Be Cruel, Can't Help Falling In Love

Released 6 weeks after The King's death, this one fits the bill of double live albums with inflated sales totals. The concert was also broadcast on CBS. The album hit #5 on the album charts and #1 on the country albums chart. Elvis had 22 Top 5 albums . . . the last coming in 2003. I'm guessing most people here aren't that into Presley, but he still falls in the rock category.

#242 - HEART - Little Queen (1977) (3.206 million albums)
Notable songs: Barracuda (#11), Little Queen (#62), Kick It Out (#79), Stairway To Heaven (2004 release)

The third best-selling Heart album behind 1985's self-titled album (5.8 million) and 1987's Bad Animals (3.8 million). Little Queen ranked 85th in Tim's countdown (with Dreamboat Annie coming in at #69). The Wilson sisters have been touring on their own and with their own versions of Heart the past view years, but the reunited band hits the road this summer for the first time in 8 years.

#240T - TOM PETTY & THE HEARTBREAKERS - Damn The Torpedoes (1979) (3.215 million albums)
Notable songs: Don't Do Me Like That (#10), Refugee (#15), Here Comes My Girl (#59), Even The Losers, Shadow Of A Doubt (A Complex Kid)

DTT is the 4th best-selling TP album after his Greatest Hits, Full Moon Fever, and Wildflowers. DTT ranked 32nd on Tim's countdown (Hard Promises was #64 and the first album was at #88). For someone that was around for decades and always a popular touring act, I'm surprised TP wasn't a bigger seller. The only time I saw him was in 1980 and only got more into him in recent years.

#240T - GENESIS - Foxtrot (1972) (3.215 million albums)
Notable songs: Watcher Of The Skies (didn't chart)

The 4th album released from Genesis, this one featuring Peter Gabriel, Tony Banks (before he switched to playing QB), Steve Hackett, Phil Collins, and Mike Rutherford. Fair warning: the sales totals for Genesis albums are crazy high. Early Genesis isn't exactly my thing, so anyone that prefers their earlier, progressive sound as opposed to their more mainstream sound with Phil Collins, please chime in.
 
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#244T - BILLY SQUIER - Don't Say No (1981) (3.2 million albums)
Notable songs: The Stroke (#17), In The Dark (#35), My Kinda Lover (#45), Lonely Is The Night (#28 AOR Chart)

Don't Say No was one of Squier's two Top 5 albums and featured half of his four Top 40 hits. He timed the MTV era and big hair rock scene just right. He had 3-4 years where he was a regular on FM radio.
When we were discussing Paradise Theater yesterday amid the arena rock craze that year, I was going to mention a few others that were monsters at the time. This was another one, but didn’t want to spotlight.
 
#243 - ELVIS PRESLEY - Elvis In Concert (1977) (3.204 million albums)
Notable songs: My Way (#22), America (didn't chart), Hound Dog, Jailhouse Rock, Don't Be Cruel, Can't Help Falling In Love

Released 6 weeks after The King's death, this one fits the bill of double live albums with inflated sales totals. The concert was also broadcast on CBS. The album hit #5 on the album charts and #1 on the country albums chart. Elvis had 22 Top 5 albums . . . the last coming in 2003. I'm guessing most people here aren't that into Presley, but he still falls in the rock category.
And how, at that point.
 
#243 - ELVIS PRESLEY - Elvis In Concert (1977) (3.204 million albums)
Notable songs: My Way (#22), America (didn't chart), Hound Dog, Jailhouse Rock, Don't Be Cruel, Can't Help Falling In Love

Released 6 weeks after The King's death, this one fits the bill of double live albums with inflated sales totals. The concert was also broadcast on CBS. The album hit #5 on the album charts and #1 on the country albums chart. Elvis had 22 Top 5 albums . . . the last coming in 2003. I'm guessing most people here aren't that into Presley, but he still falls in the rock category.
And how, at that point.
As discussed yesterday, IIRC, double albums count as 2 units sold.
 
#243 - ELVIS PRESLEY - Elvis In Concert (1977) (3.204 million albums)
Notable songs: My Way (#22), America (didn't chart), Hound Dog, Jailhouse Rock, Don't Be Cruel, Can't Help Falling In Love

Released 6 weeks after The King's death, this one fits the bill of double live albums with inflated sales totals. The concert was also broadcast on CBS. The album hit #5 on the album charts and #1 on the country albums chart. Elvis had 22 Top 5 albums . . . the last coming in 2003. I'm guessing most people here aren't that into Presley, but he still falls in the rock category.
And how, at that point.
As discussed yesterday, IIRC, double albums count as 2 units sold.
I was talking about Elvis’ weight - guess that went over like a lead balloon.
 
#244T - BILLY SQUIER - Don't Say No (1981) (3.2 million albums)
Notable songs: The Stroke (#17), In The Dark (#35), My Kinda Lover (#45), Lonely Is The Night (#28 AOR Chart)

Don't Say No was one of Squier's two Top 5 albums and featured half of his four Top 40 hits. He timed the MTV era and big hair rock scene just right. He had 3-4 years where he was a regular on FM radio.
When we were discussing Paradise Theater yesterday amid the arena rock craze that year, I was going to mention a few others that were monsters at the time. This was another one, but didn’t want to spotlight.
He was huge in '82. Saw him at a sold out Cotton Bowl in Dec '82 with the Who and Steel Breeze. His entire set he had a series of Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders rotating through with him on stage. Definitely memorable.
 
Fair warning: the sales totals for Genesis albums are crazy high. Early Genesis isn't exactly my thing, so anyone that prefers their earlier, progressive sound as opposed to their more mainstream sound with Phil Collins, please chime in.
This makes zero sense to me. I believe you are reporting the correct numbers as your source has them, but there's no way Foxtrot sold as many units as something like Torpedoes. Early Genesis had NO radio presence.
 
#244T - BILLY SQUIER - Don't Say No (1981) (3.2 million albums)
Notable songs: The Stroke (#17), In The Dark (#35), My Kinda Lover (#45), Lonely Is The Night (#28 AOR Chart)

Don't Say No was one of Squier's two Top 5 albums and featured half of his four Top 40 hits. He timed the MTV era and big hair rock scene just right. He had 3-4 years where he was a regular on FM radio.
When we were discussing Paradise Theater yesterday amid the arena rock craze that year, I was going to mention a few others that were monsters at the time. This was another one, but didn’t want to spotlight.
He was huge in '82. Saw him at a sold out Cotton Bowl in Dec '82 with the Who and Steel Breeze. His entire set he had a series of Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders rotating through with him on stage. Definitely memorable.
Now it’s starting to make sense where he got his outfit inspiration for the “Rock Me Tonite” video.
 
#244T - BILLY SQUIER - Don't Say No (1981) (3.2 million albums)
Notable songs: The Stroke (#17), In The Dark (#35), My Kinda Lover (#45), Lonely Is The Night (#28 AOR Chart)

Don't Say No was one of Squier's two Top 5 albums and featured half of his four Top 40 hits. He timed the MTV era and big hair rock scene just right. He had 3-4 years where he was a regular on FM radio.
When we were discussing Paradise Theater yesterday amid the arena rock craze that year, I was going to mention a few others that were monsters at the time. This was another one, but didn’t want to spotlight.
He was huge in '82. Saw him at a sold out Cotton Bowl in Dec '82 with the Who and Steel Breeze. His entire set he had a series of Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders rotating through with him on stage. Definitely memorable.
Now it’s starting to make sense where he got his outfit inspiration for the “Rock Me Tonite” video.
Yea, he may not "roll' that way, but he definitely "rocked' that way...
 
Fair warning: the sales totals for Genesis albums are crazy high. Early Genesis isn't exactly my thing, so anyone that prefers their earlier, progressive sound as opposed to their more mainstream sound with Phil Collins, please chime in.
This makes zero sense to me. I believe you are reporting the correct numbers as your source has them, but there's no way Foxtrot sold as many units as something like Torpedoes. Early Genesis had NO radio presence.
I agree with you that in the US, Tom Petty should trump early Genesis in a romp. But I am using global sales data. Apparently, the Heartbreakers were big in the U.S. but not internationally. Maybe Phil Collins' aunt worked at the record label or at the reporting organization. I agree that the numbers don't make any sense, but the numbers are the numbers.
 
#244T - BILLY SQUIER - Don't Say No (1981) (3.2 million albums)
Notable songs: The Stroke (#17), In The Dark (#35), My Kinda Lover (#45), Lonely Is The Night (#28 AOR Chart)

Don't Say No was one of Squier's two Top 5 albums and featured half of his four Top 40 hits. He timed the MTV era and big hair rock scene just right. He had 3-4 years where he was a regular on FM radio.
When we were discussing Paradise Theater yesterday amid the arena rock craze that year, I was going to mention a few others that were monsters at the time. This was another one, but didn’t want to spotlight.
He was huge in '82. Saw him at a sold out Cotton Bowl in Dec '82 with the Who and Steel Breeze. His entire set he had a series of Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders rotating through with him on stage. Definitely memorable.
Now it’s starting to make sense where he got his outfit inspiration for the “Rock Me Tonite” video.
Yea, he may not "roll' that way, but he definitely "rocked' that way...
Going back to the concert you attended that year, that was the Who’s farewell tour IIRC. We’re still waiting…

And Steel Breeze must have played “You Don’t Want Me Anymore” on a loop during their performance.
 
#244T - BILLY SQUIER - Don't Say No (1981) (3.2 million albums)
Notable songs: The Stroke (#17), In The Dark (#35), My Kinda Lover (#45), Lonely Is The Night (#28 AOR Chart)

Don't Say No was one of Squier's two Top 5 albums and featured half of his four Top 40 hits. He timed the MTV era and big hair rock scene just right. He had 3-4 years where he was a regular on FM radio.
When we were discussing Paradise Theater yesterday amid the arena rock craze that year, I was going to mention a few others that were monsters at the time. This was another one, but didn’t want to spotlight.
He was huge in '82. Saw him at a sold out Cotton Bowl in Dec '82 with the Who and Steel Breeze. His entire set he had a series of Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders rotating through with him on stage. Definitely memorable.
Now it’s starting to make sense where he got his outfit inspiration for the “Rock Me Tonite” video.
Yea, he may not "roll' that way, but he definitely "rocked' that way...
Going back to the concert you attended that year, that was the Who’s farewell tour IIRC. We’re still waiting…

And Steel Breeze must have played “You Don’t Want Me Anymore” on a loop during their performance.
Correct on both counts. :lmao:
 
#244T - BILLY SQUIER - Don't Say No (1981) (3.2 million albums)
Notable songs: The Stroke (#17), In The Dark (#35), My Kinda Lover (#45), Lonely Is The Night (#28 AOR Chart)

Don't Say No was one of Squier's two Top 5 albums and featured half of his four Top 40 hits. He timed the MTV era and big hair rock scene just right. He had 3-4 years where he was a regular on FM radio.
When we were discussing Paradise Theater yesterday amid the arena rock craze that year, I was going to mention a few others that were monsters at the time. This was another one, but didn’t want to spotlight.
He was huge in '82. Saw him at a sold out Cotton Bowl in Dec '82 with the Who and Steel Breeze. His entire set he had a series of Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders rotating through with him on stage. Definitely memorable.
Now it’s starting to make sense where he got his outfit inspiration for the “Rock Me Tonite” video.
Yea, he may not "roll' that way, but he definitely "rocked' that way...
Going back to the concert you attended that year, that was the Who’s farewell tour IIRC. We’re still waiting…

And Steel Breeze must have played “You Don’t Want Me Anymore” on a loop during their performance.
I just remember the high angle camera shots from the below-stage level camera pool of the talent on stage with Billy were off the charts.
 
Fair warning: the sales totals for Genesis albums are crazy high. Early Genesis isn't exactly my thing, so anyone that prefers their earlier, progressive sound as opposed to their more mainstream sound with Phil Collins, please chime in.
This makes zero sense to me. I believe you are reporting the correct numbers as your source has them, but there's no way Foxtrot sold as many units as something like Torpedoes. Early Genesis had NO radio presence.
I was perplexed as well so I went and found this site: https://chartmasters.org/genesis-albums-and-songs-sales/
Genesis was real big in Europe from pretty early on and it wasn't until their 11th album, Ababcab in '81, that the US record sales topped Europe's.
 
#239 - NEIL YOUNG WITH CRAZY HORSE - Rust Never Sleeps (1979) (3.22 million albums)
Notable songs: Hey Hey, My My (Into The Black (#79), My My, Hey Hey (Out Of The Blue), Powderfinger

This album is one that I suspect has some accounting errors. Of the sources I used, one of them barely had this album breaking a million in album sales . . . but another had it over 3 million (which seems to have been more current and appears to add in more digital and catalog sales). If I didn't explain earlier, I predominantly used two main databases to compile the list . . . and I went with the highest total. I like the two main songs that book end the album. The tracks in the middle I think are only ok.

#238 - NEIL YOUNG WITH CRAZY HORSE - Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere (1969) (3.265 million albums)
Notable songs: Cinnamon Girl, Down By The River, Title Track

Our second double shot of the same artist. This was #42 on Tim's countdown and a regular selection in the Rolling Stone Top 500 Albums. I've always enjoyed CSNY more than Neil on his own (but have always liked Rockin' In The Free World). Probably more than other artists, I like his popular songs but his deeper tracks never grew on me.

#236T - PAUL SIMON - Still Crazy After All These Years (1975) (3.27 million albums)
Notable songs: 50 Ways To Leave Your Lover (#1), My Little Town (with Art Garfunkel (#9), Gone At Last (#23), Title Track (#40), Slip Slidin' Away (Demo)

IMO, Simon is one of the greatest American song writers and penned some of the best songs of his era / genre. I saw him perform on his Graceland and Rhythm Of The Saints tours and both shows were fantastic. Yes, I'm old and like old people music. What's your point?

#236T - ELTON JOHN - Madman Across The Water (1971) (3.27 million albums)
Notable songs: Levon (#24), Tiny Dance (#41), Indian Sunset, Holiday Inn

The first of many Elton albums. He was a money-making machine in the 70's. He had 24 Top 40 hits in the decade to go along with 6 #1 albums IN A ROW across THREE YEARS (with a #1 greatest hits album thrown in for good measure). Tim had this one at #84. The 50th anniversary deluxe edition extended the single disc album to 3 CDs.

#235 - ELTON JOHN - Honky Chateau (1972) (3.28 million albums)
Notable songs: Rocket Man (#6), Honky Cat (#8), Mona Lisas And Mad Hatters

And ANOTHER back-to-back album from the same artist. IMO, the stronger of the two Elton albums listed here. My older siblings loved Elton, and I remember hearing him in our house all the time. My brother attended the show at MSG in 1974 when John Lennon played a few songs (his last live performance).
 
#240T - TOM PETTY & THE HEARTBREAKERS - Damn The Torpedoes (1979) (3.215 million albums)
Notable songs: Don't Do Me Like That (#10), Refugee (#15), Here Comes My Girl (#59), Even The Losers, Shadow Of A Doubt (A Complex Kid)

DTT is the 4th best-selling TP album after his Greatest Hits, Full Moon Fever, and Wildflowers. DTT ranked 32nd on Tim's countdown (Hard Promises was #64 and the first album was at #88). For someone that was around for decades and always a popular touring act, I'm surprised TP wasn't a bigger seller. The only time I saw him was in 1980 and only got more into him in recent years.
I think the "got more into him in recent years" is a fairly common statement.
 
#238 - NEIL YOUNG WITH CRAZY HORSE - Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere (1969) (3.265 million albums)
Notable songs: Cinnamon Girl, Down By The River, Title Track

Our second double shot of the same artist. This was #42 on Tim's countdown and a regular selection in the Rolling Stone Top 500 Albums. I've always enjoyed CSNY more than Neil on his own (but have always liked Rockin' In The Free World). Probably more than other artists, I like his popular songs but his deeper tracks never grew on me.

Of course I'm going to comment. I started a thread about listening to this album. It's got some great guitar tracks.

And because I'm pretty sure he might bestow some knowledge upon us, I'll leave the canvas blank so that Pip's Invitation can paint on it.
 
Fair warning: the sales totals for Genesis albums are crazy high. Early Genesis isn't exactly my thing, so anyone that prefers their earlier, progressive sound as opposed to their more mainstream sound with Phil Collins, please chime in.
This makes zero sense to me. I believe you are reporting the correct numbers as your source has them, but there's no way Foxtrot sold as many units as something like Torpedoes. Early Genesis had NO radio presence.
Wouldn't be surprised if the Gabriel era of Genesis never sold a ton of albums all at once, but have had a steady slow burn where the sales never really ground to a halt (Pink Floyd is this way, but with much larger sales figures). This isn't a ton of information, but (if accurate) it looks like even today, Foxtrot is still at Gold album status in the UK -- which means 100,000 units. I see also that this album has been re-released a few times since 1972, kind of keeping it "current" in a way.

Not sure this exists, but it would be cool if there was a time component in the sales figures. Like where you could see year-end cumulative figures, year by year, for albums like these. Early Genesis, to me, is yet another band who have probably benefited from an Internet-era boost -- I could see a 1.0 - 1.5 million of the Foxtrot album sales (maybe more) being digital downloads over the last 15 years or so. Early Genesis have always kind of gotten a lot of "cool" points online by my reckoning. Never heard jack about 1970s Genesis growing up in the era of new wave, hair metal, and seminal rap.
 
#244T - BILLY SQUIER - Don't Say No (1981) (3.2 million albums)
Notable songs: The Stroke (#17), In The Dark (#35), My Kinda Lover (#45), Lonely Is The Night (#28 AOR Chart)

Don't Say No was one of Squier's two Top 5 albums and featured half of his four Top 40 hits. He timed the MTV era and big hair rock scene just right. He had 3-4 years where he was a regular on FM radio.

#243 - ELVIS PRESLEY - Elvis In Concert (1977) (3.204 million albums)
Notable songs: My Way (#22), America (didn't chart), Hound Dog, Jailhouse Rock, Don't Be Cruel, Can't Help Falling In Love

Released 6 weeks after The King's death, this one fits the bill of double live albums with inflated sales totals. The concert was also broadcast on CBS. The album hit #5 on the album charts and #1 on the country albums chart. Elvis had 22 Top 5 albums . . . the last coming in 2003. I'm guessing most people here aren't that into Presley, but he still falls in the rock category.

#242 - HEART - Little Queen (1977) (3.206 million albums)
Notable songs: Barracuda (#11), Little Queen (#62), Kick It Out (#79), Stairway To Heaven (2004 release)

The third best-selling Heart album behind 1985's self-titled album (5.8 million) and 1987's Bad Animals (3.8 million). Little Queen ranked 85th in Tim's countdown (with Dreamboat Annie coming in at #69). The Wilson sisters have been touring on their own and with their own versions of Heart the past view years, but the reunited band hits the road this summer for the first time in 8 years.

#240T - TOM PETTY & THE HEARTBREAKERS - Damn The Torpedoes (1979) (3.215 million albums)
Notable songs: Don't Do Me Like That (#10), Refugee (#15), Here Comes My Girl (#59), Even The Losers, Shadow Of A Doubt (A Complex Kid)

DTT is the 4th best-selling TP album after his Greatest Hits, Full Moon Fever, and Wildflowers. DTT ranked 32nd on Tim's countdown (Hard Promises was #64 and the first album was at #88). For someone that was around for decades and always a popular touring act, I'm surprised TP wasn't a bigger seller. The only time I saw him was in 1980 and only got more into him in recent years.

#240T - GENESIS - Foxtrot (1972) (3.215 million albums)
Notable songs: Watcher Of The Skies (didn't chart)

The 4th album released from Genesis, this one featuring Peter Gabriel, Tony Banks (before he switched to playing QB), Steve Hackett, Phil Collins, and Mike Rutherford. Fair warning: the sales totals for Genesis albums are crazy high. Early Genesis isn't exactly my thing, so anyone that prefers their earlier, progressive sound as opposed to their more mainstream sound with Phil Collins, please chime in.
I am shocked that Foxtrot is on this list. It made very little commercial impact in the US upon its release, and exposure was mainly confined to “Watcher of the Skies” getting airplay on the more adventurous FM stations. But it was their first record to get any kind of promotion here, and set the wheels in motion for the juggernaut they became. The 24-minute suite “Supper’s Ready” established their prog bona fides and helped grow their audience by word of mouth. Nonetheless, that activity wouldn’t have produced sales anywhere near the millions at the time. I would think the vast majority came after the massive successes of the band’s later albums and the solo records of Peter Gabriel and Phil Collins.

Tween me was a big fan of the radio/MTV cuts of Don’t Say No. Especially In the Dark.
 
Damn the Torpedoes was Petty’s best and most popular pre-Wilbury album. But the 1-2 punch of the first Wilbury record and Full Moon Fever took him to a new level audience-wise. DtP sales probably got some boost from that too. Its big four songs were in regular rotation on my stations.
 
Fair warning: the sales totals for Genesis albums are crazy high. Early Genesis isn't exactly my thing, so anyone that prefers their earlier, progressive sound as opposed to their more mainstream sound with Phil Collins, please chime in.
This makes zero sense to me. I believe you are reporting the correct numbers as your source has them, but there's no way Foxtrot sold as many units as something like Torpedoes. Early Genesis had NO radio presence.
I agree with you that in the US, Tom Petty should trump early Genesis in a romp. But I am using global sales data. Apparently, the Heartbreakers were big in the U.S. but not internationally. Maybe Phil Collins' aunt worked at the record label or at the reporting organization. I agree that the numbers don't make any sense, but the numbers are the numbers.
That makes a little more sense as Gabriel-era Genesis were pretty popular in the UK as far as non-singles-bands went.
 
One glaring omission makes a cowgirl cry.
In my Neil countdown, the “big 4” from this record all made my top 30. The other three songs were much, much lower.

Rust Never Sleeps is IMO the best Neil album and was his only one to place all of its tracks in my top 100. Side 1 has some of his best acoustic songs and side 2 is some of the most ferocious hard rock you’ll ever hear. “The stuff in the middle is just ok?” Sacrilege!!!!!
 
#238 - NEIL YOUNG WITH CRAZY HORSE - Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere (1969) (3.265 million albums)
Notable songs: Cinnamon Girl, Down By The River, Title Track

Our second double shot of the same artist. This was #42 on Tim's countdown and a regular selection in the Rolling Stone Top 500 Albums. I've always enjoyed CSNY more than Neil on his own (but have always liked Rockin' In The Free World). Probably more than other artists, I like his popular songs but his deeper tracks never grew on me.

Of course I'm going to comment. I started a thread about listening to this album. It's got some great guitar tracks.

And because I'm pretty sure he might bestow some knowledge upon us, I'll leave the canvas blank so that Pip's Invitation can paint on it.
I can’t do better than what I did in my countdown thread.

#3 Down by the River is on this page: https://forums.footballguys.com/thr...-and-other-stuff.786493/page-11#post-22918577

#9 Cowgirl in the Sand:
Post in thread 'Countdown of my top 101 Neil Young songs. Now with entries 102-204, notable covers and other stuff'
https://forums.footballguys.com/thr...e-covers-and-other-stuff.786493/post-22911756

#21 Cinnamon Girl and #26 Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere are on this page: https://forums.footballguys.com/thr...-notable-covers-and-other-stuff.786493/page-8
 
Rust Never Sleeps is IMO the best Neil album and was his only one to place all of its tracks in my top 100. Side 1 has some of his best acoustic songs and side 2 is some of the most ferocious hard rock you’ll ever hear. “The stuff in the middle is just ok?” Sacrilege!!!!!
It’s great, although not a big fan of Ride My Llama or Welfare Mothers.
 
Rust Never Sleeps is IMO the best Neil album and was his only one to place all of its tracks in my top 100. Side 1 has some of his best acoustic songs and side 2 is some of the most ferocious hard rock you’ll ever hear. “The stuff in the middle is just ok?” Sacrilege!!!!!
It’s great, although not a big fan of Ride My Llama or Welfare Mothers.
The lyrics of Welfare Mothers are ridiculous. But the riffage is some of his best.

Ride My Llama is not in the same league as MMHH, Thrasher and Pocahontas, but it’s still one that I find quite enjoyable. An electric version recorded during the Zuma sessions is pretty wild: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HzsrjEPWNm0&pp=ygUYbmVpbCB5b3VuZyByaWRlIG15IGxsYW1h
 

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