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Jeffrey Epstein: there is definitely nothing to see here folks, I am feeling very sleepy, I think I'll take a nice nap. (3 Viewers)
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Sheriff Bart
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What is the ratio of horrible things to good things before you are no longer a supporter? So let's say you like his tax cut and and deregulation, that 2 on the + side. There are probably, at least, a hundred things that you, who have always been a reasonable person, don't like, same as this retweet. So that puts us at 50/1.
Sheriff Bart
Footballguy
NREC34
Footballguy
Yeah. As it is for most people with similar ‘reading off a teleprompter’ skills as him.
cobalt_27
Footballguy
Why? If you’re a supporter, what makes you so different that you’d be offended, instead of reflexively defend all that is grotesque, immoral, unethical, illegal, and subversive that you otherwise support?
rockaction
Footballguy
Oh -- this will prompt productive discussion. Nice tone. I remember you from back in the SP. Same tone there. Good work.
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cobalt_27
Footballguy
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Footballguy
Way to make it worse. Nice tone. I remember you from the FFA. Same tone there. Good work.
rockaction
Footballguy
Sheriff Bart
Footballguy
Everyone chill please. I don't want to give anyone a TO today. Although my GF did make me breakfast with hog. Let's make today a good day. 
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Footballguy
Did squiz get a timeout? I was wondering why GoBirds and RamblinWreck haven't been seen as often the past few days.
sho nuff
Footballguy
While you seem to support some things, you seem able to criticize for other things and have said IIRC that you may not even vote for him. I don't think you are the type of supporter being discussed that would like if he actually said it vs retweeting.
rockaction
Footballguy
I'm so chill I'm about to order a smooth soul promo over at Discogs. That's about as chill as it gets. I don't think Mr. Fisk's protege knows anything but caustic.Everyone chill please. I don't want to give anyone a TO today. Although my GF did make me breakfast with hog. Let's make today a good day.
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sho nuff
Footballguy
That isn’t a good thing that he retweets stuff without vetting or understanding what the implications are. Or he is more worried about “owning the libs” type of behavior. That is part of what makes it insane from the POTUS to do such things.
He has retweeted conspiracy theorists, white nationalists, flat out racists nefore.
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rockaction
Footballguy
Oh, there must have been. Or a vacation of his own choosing.
One question that's always consumed me: Do women slit plackets for guys that don brackets?
Wait - WAT????
Thom Hartmann
@Thom_Hartmann
#EpsteinBarrSyndrome Bill Barr allegedly made secret visit to jail before Epstein’s death: ‘Something’s not right there’
Link to rawstory
A New York Post report on Sunday hinted that Attorney General Bill Barr may have visited the prison where Jeffrey Epstein was being held before he allegedly committed suicide.
Lewis Kasman, a former mobster and top associated of John Gotti Sr., told the Post that Barr made a secret visit to Metropolitan Correctional Center two weeks ago “about the time Epstein was found in his cell with bruises around his neck.”
“When does that happen?” Kasman asked. “The attorney general never visits jails. Something’s not right there.”
That should slow the
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Thom Hartmann
@Thom_Hartmann
#EpsteinBarrSyndrome Bill Barr allegedly made secret visit to jail before Epstein’s death: ‘Something’s not right there’
Link to rawstory
A New York Post report on Sunday hinted that Attorney General Bill Barr may have visited the prison where Jeffrey Epstein was being held before he allegedly committed suicide.
Lewis Kasman, a former mobster and top associated of John Gotti Sr., told the Post that Barr made a secret visit to Metropolitan Correctional Center two weeks ago “about the time Epstein was found in his cell with bruises around his neck.”
“When does that happen?” Kasman asked. “The attorney general never visits jails. Something’s not right there.”
That should slow the
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Sheriff Bart
Footballguy
Sheriff Bart
Footballguy
Wait - WAT????
Thom Hartmann
@Thom_Hartmann
#EpsteinBarrSyndrome Bill Barr allegedly made secret visit to jail before Epstein’s death: ‘Something’s not right there’
Link to rawstory
A New York Post report on Sunday hinted that Attorney General Bill Barr may have visited the prison where Jeffrey Epstein was being held before he allegedly committed suicide.
Lewis Kasman, a former mobster and top associated of John Gotti Sr., told the Post that Barr made a secret visit to Metropolitan Correctional Center two weeks ago “about the time Epstein was found in his cell with bruises around his neck.”
“When does that happen?” Kasman asked. “The attorney general never visits jails. Something’s not right there.”
That should slow the
Again with the NY Post. Come on guys. 
ShamrockPride
Footballguy
Hopefully one of those 30-50 feral hogs. Save our environment bro.Everyone chill please. I don't want to give anyone a TO today. Although my GF did make me breakfast with hog. Let's make today a good day.
"Established in 1801 by Federalist and Founding Father Alexander Hamilton..."
I mean, its got a lot of pedigree - right?
Sheriff Bart
Footballguy
I've read stories how they shoot them from helicopters and then let them rot. Seems dumb.
[scooter]
Footballguy
The Post has a rolodex of scumbags willing to provide a quote for virtually every occasion.
Need a quote implying that the AG did something shady? Just call a former mobster. He'll say what you want him to say.
supermike80
Footballguy
David Frum:
Many seem to have responded with a startled shrug. What do you expect? It’s just Trump letting off steam on Twitter.
Reactions to actions by Trump are always filtered through the prism of the ever more widely accepted view—within his administration, within Congress, within the United States, and around the world—that the 45th president is a reckless buffoon; a conspiratorial, racist moron, whose weird comments should be disregarded by sensible people.
Many seem to have responded with a startled shrug. What do you expect? It’s just Trump letting off steam on Twitter.
Reactions to actions by Trump are always filtered through the prism of the ever more widely accepted view—within his administration, within Congress, within the United States, and around the world—that the 45th president is a reckless buffoon; a conspiratorial, racist moron, whose weird comments should be disregarded by sensible people.
Dinsy Ejotuz
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parasaurolophus
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The General
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KiddLattimer
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Statorama
gangster
OrtonToOlsen
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Sheriff Bart
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OrtonToOlsen
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Samantha Ruddy via Twitter
”I never understood why people think the Clintons can pull off murdering people when Bill couldn’t even get away with a BJ.”
”I never understood why people think the Clintons can pull off murdering people when Bill couldn’t even get away with a BJ.”
Sheriff Bart
Footballguy
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
Everyone should try to understand the situation better. Most of the internet gumshoe squad likely have no idea how prisons really work (note: I also don't know how prisons work, although I find it to be an interesting topic), and they'd already cracked the case.Exactly. That was my impression from the start. Not this thread but social media in general yesterday. Fortunately, I was able to turn it into something really productive like spending time arguing over whether I thought a federal warden's opinion on how a prison would run was worthwhile...
Out. You guys have a great day.
JetMaxx
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Apple Jack
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Sheriff Bart
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Punxsutawney Phil
Footballguy
Who was the warden of this place? This happened on their watch, so they should be held responsible.
jplvr
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Ditkaless Wonders
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Wow. I was out of communications range over the weekend. This is an interesting story to come back to.
Godsbrother
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rockaction
Footballguy
Not playing board cop, but just a PSA for you, in your interest. That got a thread shut down (Dead Rock Stars Draft). Don't want you getting nicked.
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Ditkaless Wonders
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Snorkelson
Footballguy
Protected free speech?
See all this seems completely ridiculous, intertwined with some religious cookooness.
See all this seems completely ridiculous, intertwined with some religious cookooness.
HellToupee
Footballguy
As seen on Zerohedge
7 Unanswered Questions About Epstein's Death That The Mainstream Media Is Not Talking About
Authored by Michael Snyder via The End of The American Dream blog,
Did Jeffrey Epstein commit suicide or was he murdered? This is a question that is being debated by millions of Americans right now, and without a doubt this is the biggest story of this news cycle. Unfortunately, the mainstream media is already dropping the ball. Instead of going wherever the evidence leads them, there already seems to be a tremendous effort to marginalize any explanations for his death other than “suicide”. And it may turn out that “suicide” is where the evidence takes us, but while things are unclear we should not be afraid to ask the hard questions.
The following are 7 unanswered questions about Jeffrey Epstein’s death that the mainstream media needs to be talking about…
#1 Why are the autopsy results being delayed? According to NBC News, the New York City medical examiner’s office is requesting “more information” before determining the cause of Epstein’s death…
The New York City medical examiner’s office said Sunday that it had completed an autopsy of the financier and accused sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein but that it needed more information before determining the cause of death.
#2 What will the cameras show? By now most people have heard that there were no cameras filming what was going on inside Epstein’s cell, but there were cameras filming the doors of each cell…
The news of the delay to the autopsy results comes after a source told the New York Post there was no video of the moment he died in his jail cell at Metropolitan Correctional Center.
Cameras are said to film the doors to each cell which would show anyone who entered or exited, but they do not point inside.
So if someone paid a “visit” to Epstein, there should be video evidence of it.
#3 Why was Jeffrey Epstein taken off suicide watch? After Epstein attempted to “kill himself” the first time, he was put on suicide watch, but only for a short period. The following comes from CNN…
No. Epstein was temporarily placed on a suicide watch after he was found in his jail cell July 23 with marks on his neck, a law enforcement source and a source familiar with the incident told CNN at the time.
It wasn’t clear whether those injuries, which were not serious, were self-inflicted or the result of an assault, the sources said. Epstein told authorities he had been beaten up and called a child predator, they said.
#4 Why did the guards break prison rules and not check on him every 30 minutes? Apparently these guards had been working a lot of overtime, but that is no excuse for breaking prison rules…
Epstein should have been checked on by guards in his cell every 30 minutes, but that didn’t happen the night before his apparent suicide, a law enforcement official told the Times.
The Times spoke to the official on the condition of anonymity. The Associated Press has not independently confirmed the information.
A law enforcement source also said he was alone in his cell Saturday night after his cellmate was transferred. An official with knowledge of the investigation told the Times that the Justice Department was told Epstein would have a cellmate and be monitored by a guard every 30 minutes.
#5 Why would Jeffrey Epstein try to kill himself if he was adjusting so well to prison life? According to a “prison insider” interviewed by the Daily Mail, Epstein “seemed to be in good spirits” just before his life ended…
The insider, who had seen the disgraced financier on several occasions during his incarceration at the Metropolitan Correctional Center, also claims that the normally reserved Epstein seemed to be in good spirits.
‘There was no indication that he might try to take his own life,’ the source told DailyMail.com.
‘From what I saw, he was finally starting to adjust to prison. I think he was comforted by the rigidity of his new life.’
#6 Why did Jeffrey Epstein tell guards that someone was trying to kill him? It has been reported by the mainstream media that Epstein previously tried to kill himself, but apparently that report was being directly contradicted by Epstein himself. Of course it is entirely possible that Epstein was lying, but according to multiple reports he claimed that someone had tried to kill him…
The 66-year-old convicted sex offender reportedly told guards and fellow inmates he believed someone was trying to kill him.
The multimillionaire, who was being held on sex trafficking charges at the Metropolitan Correctional Center in Manhattan, had previously been on suicide watch.
#7 How could Epstein kill himself in a prison where the cells had been specifically designed to prevent that from happening? I shared this quote in another article that I just posted, but it is deeply relevant to this article as well. According to a former inmate of the Metropolitan Correction Center in lower Manhattan that was just interviewed by the New York Post, there is no way that Epstein would have been able to hang himself…
There’s no way that man could have killed himself. I’ve done too much time in those units. It’s an impossibility.
Between the floor and the ceiling is like eight or nine feet. There’s no way for you to connect to anything.
You have sheets, but they’re paper level, not strong enough. He was 200 pounds — it would never happen.
Everything in these cells was designed to keep hanging deaths from happening, but that is not the only way that prisoners kill themselves.
According to a study cited by the Los Angeles Times, over 90 percent of all prison suicides are hangings, and drug overdoses are the second most common cause…
According to news reports, Epstein was not on suicide watch when he died, but even if he had been the outcome might have been the same. A study by the U.S. Marshal Service found that about 8% of suicides in correctional facilities occurred even though an inmate was on suicide watch. According to the report, the vast majority of suicides (more than 90%) are hangings, with the second most common being drug overdoses.
So is it possible that Epstein could have come up with a way to kill himself?
Yes, although it wouldn’t have been easy. Epstein was certainly a miserable human being, and without anything positive to live for, he probably imagined that he would rot away in a prison cell for the rest of his life.
In the end, it definitely would not be a surprise if someone in his position chose the cowardly route of committing suicide.
But without a doubt, something doesn’t smell right here.
There were reports that Epstein was willing to start testifying against his rich and powerful friends, but now that will never happen.
It is clear that there are certain people that have greatly benefited from his death, and in many of those cases it appears that justice will probably never be served.
7 Unanswered Questions About Epstein's Death That The Mainstream Media Is Not Talking About
Authored by Michael Snyder via The End of The American Dream blog,
Did Jeffrey Epstein commit suicide or was he murdered? This is a question that is being debated by millions of Americans right now, and without a doubt this is the biggest story of this news cycle. Unfortunately, the mainstream media is already dropping the ball. Instead of going wherever the evidence leads them, there already seems to be a tremendous effort to marginalize any explanations for his death other than “suicide”. And it may turn out that “suicide” is where the evidence takes us, but while things are unclear we should not be afraid to ask the hard questions.
The following are 7 unanswered questions about Jeffrey Epstein’s death that the mainstream media needs to be talking about…
#1 Why are the autopsy results being delayed? According to NBC News, the New York City medical examiner’s office is requesting “more information” before determining the cause of Epstein’s death…
The New York City medical examiner’s office said Sunday that it had completed an autopsy of the financier and accused sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein but that it needed more information before determining the cause of death.
#2 What will the cameras show? By now most people have heard that there were no cameras filming what was going on inside Epstein’s cell, but there were cameras filming the doors of each cell…
The news of the delay to the autopsy results comes after a source told the New York Post there was no video of the moment he died in his jail cell at Metropolitan Correctional Center.
Cameras are said to film the doors to each cell which would show anyone who entered or exited, but they do not point inside.
So if someone paid a “visit” to Epstein, there should be video evidence of it.
#3 Why was Jeffrey Epstein taken off suicide watch? After Epstein attempted to “kill himself” the first time, he was put on suicide watch, but only for a short period. The following comes from CNN…
No. Epstein was temporarily placed on a suicide watch after he was found in his jail cell July 23 with marks on his neck, a law enforcement source and a source familiar with the incident told CNN at the time.
It wasn’t clear whether those injuries, which were not serious, were self-inflicted or the result of an assault, the sources said. Epstein told authorities he had been beaten up and called a child predator, they said.
#4 Why did the guards break prison rules and not check on him every 30 minutes? Apparently these guards had been working a lot of overtime, but that is no excuse for breaking prison rules…
Epstein should have been checked on by guards in his cell every 30 minutes, but that didn’t happen the night before his apparent suicide, a law enforcement official told the Times.
The Times spoke to the official on the condition of anonymity. The Associated Press has not independently confirmed the information.
A law enforcement source also said he was alone in his cell Saturday night after his cellmate was transferred. An official with knowledge of the investigation told the Times that the Justice Department was told Epstein would have a cellmate and be monitored by a guard every 30 minutes.
#5 Why would Jeffrey Epstein try to kill himself if he was adjusting so well to prison life? According to a “prison insider” interviewed by the Daily Mail, Epstein “seemed to be in good spirits” just before his life ended…
The insider, who had seen the disgraced financier on several occasions during his incarceration at the Metropolitan Correctional Center, also claims that the normally reserved Epstein seemed to be in good spirits.
‘There was no indication that he might try to take his own life,’ the source told DailyMail.com.
‘From what I saw, he was finally starting to adjust to prison. I think he was comforted by the rigidity of his new life.’
#6 Why did Jeffrey Epstein tell guards that someone was trying to kill him? It has been reported by the mainstream media that Epstein previously tried to kill himself, but apparently that report was being directly contradicted by Epstein himself. Of course it is entirely possible that Epstein was lying, but according to multiple reports he claimed that someone had tried to kill him…
The 66-year-old convicted sex offender reportedly told guards and fellow inmates he believed someone was trying to kill him.
The multimillionaire, who was being held on sex trafficking charges at the Metropolitan Correctional Center in Manhattan, had previously been on suicide watch.
#7 How could Epstein kill himself in a prison where the cells had been specifically designed to prevent that from happening? I shared this quote in another article that I just posted, but it is deeply relevant to this article as well. According to a former inmate of the Metropolitan Correction Center in lower Manhattan that was just interviewed by the New York Post, there is no way that Epstein would have been able to hang himself…
There’s no way that man could have killed himself. I’ve done too much time in those units. It’s an impossibility.
Between the floor and the ceiling is like eight or nine feet. There’s no way for you to connect to anything.
You have sheets, but they’re paper level, not strong enough. He was 200 pounds — it would never happen.
Everything in these cells was designed to keep hanging deaths from happening, but that is not the only way that prisoners kill themselves.
According to a study cited by the Los Angeles Times, over 90 percent of all prison suicides are hangings, and drug overdoses are the second most common cause…
According to news reports, Epstein was not on suicide watch when he died, but even if he had been the outcome might have been the same. A study by the U.S. Marshal Service found that about 8% of suicides in correctional facilities occurred even though an inmate was on suicide watch. According to the report, the vast majority of suicides (more than 90%) are hangings, with the second most common being drug overdoses.
So is it possible that Epstein could have come up with a way to kill himself?
Yes, although it wouldn’t have been easy. Epstein was certainly a miserable human being, and without anything positive to live for, he probably imagined that he would rot away in a prison cell for the rest of his life.
In the end, it definitely would not be a surprise if someone in his position chose the cowardly route of committing suicide.
But without a doubt, something doesn’t smell right here.
There were reports that Epstein was willing to start testifying against his rich and powerful friends, but now that will never happen.
It is clear that there are certain people that have greatly benefited from his death, and in many of those cases it appears that justice will probably never be served.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
It always cracks me up that Trump supporters won't read the NY Times but are perfectly happy to rely on blogs that rely on the NY Times.
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