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Stock Market under Trump (1 Viewer)
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beef
Footballguy
Thanks man.
Saving that to listen to at work tomorrow. This area of Fed finance is something I need to learn more about.
Sheriff Bart
Footballguy
GoBirds
Footballguy
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-stock-market-could-get-cut-in-half-next-year-warns-hedge-fund-manager-2019-12-02?siteid=yhoof2&yptr=yahoo
This guys gives some names to vote for to get that pullback many in here want.
This guys gives some names to vote for to get that pullback many in here want.
The Commish
Footballguy
Industry studies mostly and the logic behind how both engines work and how the fuels are created.
NREC34
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Henry Ford
Footballguy
Trade deal is close! Buy! Buy! Buy!
When the market goes up, that's good for Trump and bad for the Ds.
NREC34
Footballguy
Forget all the other stuff he’s done, any other president would be impeached and gone just for the stock market stuff.
Don't Noonan
Footballguy
We will see what happens in 5 years but I don't think they will change the law to stop a President from tweeting.
Yet the Ds conveniently ignore this angle. Why? because they are all in on it as well and benefit every time he manipulates the markets. Anyone not tuned into his tweets and making trades instantly after the tweet is missing out.
If I'm at Tweeter HQ, I'm monitoring those tweets and making trades at my desk as soon as it hits the server.
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beef
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I added some TVIX @ 60.50 this morning. Sell trigger hit at $63.53 less than two hours later.
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Don't Noonan
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The Commish
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The behavior really doesn't have much to do with the President as much as it does the algorithmic nature of the buying and selling these days. Up to 60% of the trading is now electronic and done via computers sitting in the building next to the trading floor.
NREC34
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NREC34
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timschochet
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CNBC and the Wall Street Journal both announced a trade deal with China has been reached , pending Trump’s approval. But Trump has just denied it a few minutes ago by tweet calling it fake news.
Who knows?
Who knows?
Sheriff Bart
Footballguy
Trump just tweeted it was the NY Times fault because he's so weak he can't take the blame for anything.
beef
Footballguy
I was tempted to play TVIX again today. Had a buy order in for $57 but cancelled since I have a meeting coming up and just can't risk having money in that and not be online and ready to move quick.
Not sure who is running the Ds show but of all the attacks they've made on Trump, this seems like the best one and they are ignoring it. Either they are dumb or they are in on it. He's flat out manipulation the markets with tweets. Any sell off is met with 'China deal is close'. Any big rally is met with. 'I'm not sure a deal is gonna get done soon'. 15 minutes of advanced warning on his tweets would make an average person a millionaire in no time.
How are they going to get hard evidence on this? With the current case, we have witnesses, phone calls etc, and it is still dismissed by Republicans. Imagine how much easier it would be to dismiss with what little data they could get re: finances? Heck, they can’t even get his tax returns—what makes you think they can get his trading habits?
Sheriff Bart
Footballguy
Just can't believe it wasn't real this time! 
sho nuff
Footballguy
But it was Phase 1? Wasn't his unannounced doctor visit also phase 1?
proteus126
Footballguy
Yeah, well that's the problem but since nothing has stuck so far. But why not just bring it up even if ya got no proof? They all make lots of claims, on both sides, with no proof just to try and get votes.
I’d say that at least something stuck, seeing as how the House is going to impeach the President next week. There is a lot of evidence (maybe not proof in your eyes) and we would have a lot of proof if the White House would cooperate. They’d be even more obstructionist if the House pursued financial stuff, plus there aren’t witnesses to provide evidence in that regard. So, ya, quite possibly a crime (it’s essentially insider trading) that will go unpunished.
There is zero evidence. Only certainty from folks like me that think the least of Trump. This is a complete non-starter re: oversight. It’s not like there’s a shortage of other stuff to pin on him, anyway.
The Big Donkey
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Dow hits record high
Stocks hit record highs on Monday and were on pace for its fourth straight gain as a so-called phase one trade deal between China and the U.S. clears the path higher for stocks to end a banner year.
Stocks hit record highs on Monday and were on pace for its fourth straight gain as a so-called phase one trade deal between China and the U.S. clears the path higher for stocks to end a banner year.
Mario Kart
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Trump could have been remembered for being one of the better economic presidents if he stayed out of the way and stf up. The stock market is great for those invested in it but until wages meet expectations, it won’t be great for everyone. If businesses paid more to employees, with investment education, the stock market would boom.
Shula-holic
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Good time to enjoy and be happy. I made the mistake once of sitting out what I thought was an overheated market. By the time I got my correction, the corrected levels were still way above where I should have initially been investing. I got left at the station and that’s what’s happened here.
proteus126
Footballguy
Ditto. 2013. Got out with S&P at 1530. Got back in at 1800. Only part of my stash, but humbling.
Correction level now might be 2500, or even 2000. Still solidly above 1500, and the market doesn't stay at crash levels for long. I feel fair value is 2600 or 2700, but that would be in a more normal but still accomodative rate environment. Might rebalance soon but that would be all. Think we are looking at the middle of a melt-up, frankly. 3400 anyone?
The Big Donkey
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GROOT
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GoBirds
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The Commish
Footballguy
To follow the logic put forth by some in this thread, it must be going up because it approves of impeachment....weird. I mean, impeachment happened, it went up. Case closed, right? 
sho nuff
Footballguy
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-08-23/trump-says-he-thinks-stock-market-would-crash-if-he-s-impeachedTo follow the logic put forth by some in this thread, it must be going up because it approves of impeachment....weird. I mean, impeachment happened, it went up. Case closed, right?
GROOT
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