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That quote hit me.
Cmon man use your head. No one thinks Trump thinks the virus itself doesn’t exist, but that the hoopla around it is the hoax. I suppose I could have worded it better but anyone with an ounce of critical thinking ability should know what I meant.
Cmon man, semantics. How would you like me to word it appropriately?He did not say that the virus is a hoax.
Come on man, post what you mean, words do have meaning and you clearly stated that Trump called this virus a hoax.
Ok I’m outta here. Huge mistake even popping in. Words do have meaning, might want to pass that memo up the chain to the emperor god king
It would be easier to just admit you were wrong and were pushing forward dis-information, but hey, you do you
Fwiw JM already carried this spear. - Here's the problem, Trump confuses in the same line of speaking 1. the virus, 2. steps he's taken against the virus, and 3. statements about the seriousness of the virus and criticism of his prior preparedness policies. He hopelessly blends them and mixes up the messaging.
I agree with your first sentence and couldn't disagree any more with your second. I've learned so much from the posters here over the last 20 years or so. I will be forever grateful for that. It is why I absolutely hate to see people like @Ditkaless Wonders bow out. There are, at least were, dozens of people here that have completely changed my outlook on life. They have made me a better man. I shudder to think about the road I was on when I joined this place just looking for an edge for easy money which is all I cared about at the time.
Not even close, calling the Dems politicizing of the situation as the next hoax is not even close to calling the virus a hoax. But you already knew this
The message was not mixed, it was clear, the politicizing by the Dems is the next hoax
I guess. it doesn't make any logical sense but okay. I would think the politicizing would be very real and not a hoax. He's like a rorsharch test or something. It's because he's such a weasely BS'er. "The next period of time" "We'll see what happens." "It may happen it may not." Why does the President have to sound like a kid that hasn't done the work on his book report?
I guess I understand but I am not here that often. Do you think about Trump multiple times a day during your day to day life like some do here? If you are getting ready for your day and not online do you think about Trump? There is one guy here who has over 150 pages just on Trump. That is almost 4000 posts. That is what I meant as it seems some are obsessed.
You're doing it right there. Maybe the president should just deal with the crisis and address the facts rather than introducing the word "hoax" into any part of it.
Well you literally put hoax in a virus discussion, so yeah that’s my point. Those two words shouldn’t be in the same sentence or even series of sentences. Absolute clarity is needed here.
I've watched the clips, two at ralies, one on the WH lawn. The thing with this president is avoiding responsibility or accountability for anything. That's not my point it just explains what happens. Trump says, there's a crisis, we're dealing with it, and people who say it's more serious than we're saying or who criticize my past policies are hoaxers. The message received is that arguments about the seriousness of it (Trump's point 1) and the policies to address it (Trump's point 2) are fake, false, and so the message on 1 and 2 is lost. The main takeaway is that it's not happening. I'm glad you have clarity on it, I really don't think others do.
It was a horrible question, even Jay and Pramila were standing with Pense and that reporter has to try and score political points. Disgusting. Why can't they just say 3%?:Snorkelson said:
And the underlying truth of the matter is those moves were made to offset the tax breaks given to the rich. So that dishonest effort by the GOP is a direct impact on the current virus condition and response.
I haven't blocked out anything, I never said word one about culpability by POTUS, he has some, you listed valid points to that affect.
Yes except conservatives could make the argument that we can cut the budgets and people involved in these programs and then, when an emergency arises, we can simply allocate funds as needed, and there will be no loss in effectiveness but a savings in overall cost.
Don'tApple Jack said:
If the message wasn't mixed why are the people on my facebook friends list that are hard core Trump supporters continuing to post charts that show the virus at the bottom of all the other virus (mind you the chart is from January, they never update the numbers...), continuing to post links to "data" showing it's not bad and on and on? To me this is saying all these people think it's a hoax and no big deal because POTUS says so. Guess maybe I'm misunderstanding this messaging?Megla said:
Nothing to worry about! But he's not going near that ####.
To be fair he is the supposed leader of the free world and not some cute singer in a boy band.Summer Wheat said:
The presidents primary role is to use the bully pulpit to say the correct things.timschochet said:
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