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This one is better -- it includes accuracy/quality as an axis.
They do not have to agree. The governor could have acted, but he chose not to.. From Politico:
This pretty much is it, end of story. We have, what I would consider relatively smart people, on this forum who use our MSM as a gauge ALL THE TIME for random nonsense they are whining and/or complaining about. It's insanity.
Evers cannot unilaterally keep the election from happening. The barrier in the way is the Republican legislature.
Biden and Sanders should be on tv telling everyone that they would reinstate Captain Crozier on the first day they are in office. Democratic slogan should be something along the lines of, "Correct the Wrongs" or something to that affect with the list of everything Trump has done wrong.
None of that however excuses how unprepared we were and continue to be. We knew it was coming here and still wasted months getting up to speed.
That is somewhat true. But you have to look at Asian countries and they seem to be doing a much better job than Europe and North America. It is not government action though, but the people. Asians have been taking the flu season very seriously for years, and they are better at self isolation, personal protection and being courteous about protecting others around them. This is the first time Western Civilization has taken these kind of precautions and we are really not good at it and most people still ignore common sense stuff.
I am not arguing that. I am arguing what you said is just wrong. The governor had choices to act without the legislature. So your statement was incorrect. Not that you will acknowledge that.
I agree with this whole heartedly. There is a chain of command and a means by which to voice complaints and the captain did an intentional end around liking knowing the complaint would become public. For an officer that is a big no no and he is right to face to consequence of his actions
Since the Trump movement has so wholly rejected intellectualism in favor of complete fealty to Trump, it will be very interesting to see where/if conservative thought re-emerges. Hopefully there is some pushback on this personality-based populism.
I am sure there is some convoluted point in there somewhere which defies logic.I love this post so much
Things here always come full circle.
I guess I'll try to explain further. This is Axios:
That is journalistically standard and ok. It would be ok at WSJ, at NYT, at your local paper or tv station. I am really curious if BB uses such standards, I have no idea.
He did but let’s address hydroxychloroquine
If you think I am wrong, please, tell me what Evers could have done, without Republican legislature approval, to suspend or delay the election. I'm all ears.
Of course. For the record, I don't have a problem with Axios. I never said I did. Salon? That's different.
That may have been the perception, but it did happen, and by and large, the public has accepted it (we don't LIKE it, but I think we've accepted it). So maybe that perception was inaccurate.
Thanks, and by the same token I regularly hear Trump supporters (I'm speaking generally, not making a claim about you) say regularly that NYT, Wapo, MSM etc. are unacceptable, and then I will look at Breitbart, Gateway, Powerline, what have you, and then - surprise - they're linking to NYT, Wapo, MSM for their claims. I think Salon / Raw Story has done that here as well, basically they're just relying on Axios' report of the leak.
Wait...this isn't taking a technicality of a post and pressing on it ignoring the overall message/point is it? People here frown upon that. If not, what are the legal options he has to do what he wants all by himself? Cursory look through their Constitution doesn't yield any obvious options.
Nah. The captains first priority are the lives of his crew. If the “chain of command” was ignoring his pleas because it wasn’t politically convenient to admit their ships were in crisis then I have no problem with what he did.
All well and good, just as you understand their are consequences and don't be a martyr when they are applied.
The acting secretary is the one that made him a martyr. The morale on that ship must be sky high right now.
If it's something that comes from a strong news reporting service (like the ones in the green box on that map shared in here earlier), I weigh almost everything on a case-by-case basis. Some stories are reported better than others. And that's not a left/right thing... it's usually more of a journalist/access/sourcing thing.
Idiocracy?
I'm sure he knew the likely outcome, but he acted in spite of that to save his sailors.
Apparently not because a posted a source and a quote which said exactly what you are asking for. To recap, he could have order the polls shut himself or had health officials close them. He chose not to for political reasons.
That on the other hand may be counter productive (quite apart from really dumb in the situation we are right now)
Um, no. Read above as I posted links, including your which is not a good look for Republicans. Here is a pertinent paragraph:
The article linked/quoted suggest he could have. Maybe he would have lost in court or maybe he could have prevailed. Governors across this country are acting without the legislature.
Ok. I was unaware I was in a discussion with a fortune -teller of such abilities to definitively predict how a court will rule. My bad. If I were a governor and I believe an action might save thousands of lives, I might give it a try.
Accepted it after being wide spread yes. Accepting it as a preventive measure? Much more difficult. A large % of the USA still does not get a proven preventive vaccine with flu shots.
No....I get there are some political shenanigans that he can try to deploy. From my reading they require cooperation from other groups, like the example you give here. Jon's assertion is that there are things HE CAN do on his OWN. That's different. I don't even see in the Constitution where he can just close all polling places. Is that in election laws somewhere?
Well...the story was about that person...the problem with your premise is that it also cited the Lupus foundation early on in the report...as well as studies raising other concerns about it. You would think...citing such a foundation the way they did...and further looking shows the foundation reported shortages (as others have commented about.
I didn't have an issue with those sources...I cited a media bias fact checker showing you wrote off sources that are as centered as some of those you cite as approved...one of which also had issues with factual reporting (where the sources you have written off didn't have such an issue).While I do read all of the sources I listed, I only listed the sources rated as "center" on the Media Bias Ratings site to humor myself by seeing who would have a huge problem with my sources. You, unsurprisingly, were the first one all over it.
Nobody is chasing anyone away...we had a disagreement about a topic...we spoke...that is what happens. He is free to post here all he wants. As am I...as long as we stay within the guidelines set by the mods. I didn't insult him...didnt get personal...I spoke about the posts and the topic. He did the same (though...I disagreed with a few personal digs). It happens.
