As amazing as Butler was in game 3, he consistently deferred and was passive in the fourth last night. It's almost like he was looking not to take a shot and was scared. Heat needed more from him last night but he was looking for Herro and Robinson to take the shot. Disappointing finish.
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2020 NBA Playoffs Thread - Haters arguing that it took Lebron 10 Finals to win 4 titles (2 Viewers)
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trader jake
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No doubt. Dragic pick n' rolls (especially with Bam) consistently produce good looks. It also forces the defense to pay attention to that motion and allows the 3pt shooters an opportunity to pop open on off-ball actions.SoBeDad said:
At this stage of his career Butler has proven he definitely isn't scared of anything. I do agree he deferred quite a bit and looked to kick out in too many situations last night. Gotta give LA some credit there, they did a much better job keeping a big on Butler in game 4, mainly AD.
Synthesizer
Footballguy
The Lakers waited until the 4th quarter to surprise the Heat with that huge adjustment. Put a 7’6” wingspan on Butler and sag off him. That stops him from getting in the lane where he wants to be. Dare him to shoot a 3. He shot 24% on 3’s this year so of course he isn’t going to want to take that shot.
jvdesigns2002
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Butler is not a typical NBA superstar. He’s not a guy that you can give the ball too and tell him to get a decent shot up for himself. He’s not going to over power or outquick guys like Lebron or AD. He doesn’t have insane handles or a super quick shot release like steph, klay, cp3, or dame. He doesn’t have insane height or length to shoot over guys like KD or Anthony Davis are able to do. The way he’s been successful with Miami is by leadership and creating a culture where there is accountability and trust amongst teammates. I don’t think he was “deferring”- he was doing what he has preached with Miami all year- team basketball and trust. Him trying to create a shot for himself vs Bron or AD is probably going to result in a lower percentage shot than Herro putting one up against Kcp or rondo. Etc.
I feel like both teams played scrappy last night. The Lakers supporting cast stepped up- kcp, Caruso, green and rondo all had moments where their contributions gave the Lakers a solid lift. In a game where both teams play decent and tough- the talent gap ended up being a deciding factor imo.
Frostillicus
Footballguy
My feelings are hurt.Craig_MiamiFL said:
His old home had been on the market since Feb (after signing his EXTENSION here).
He's already bought a new home here.
Go enjoy KAT's stat padding on a 20 win team, D-Lo's no defense, and whatever bust you take at #1.
Be excellent to each other.
Have a good (off)season
-C
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Juxtatarot
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If the Wolves keep their pick, do you think they will go with Edwards, Ball or someone else?
SWC
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i agree there is nothing wrong with not liking minnesota i personally think they should bulldoze the whole thing into a giant bass fishin hole but there is no need to be mean about it like that so i salute you frosterlicius and got your back take that to the bank bromigoMy feelings are hurt.Craig_MiamiFL said:
His old home had been on the market since Feb (after signing his EXTENSION here).
He's already bought a new home here.
Go enjoy KAT's stat padding on a 20 win team, D-Lo's no defense, and whatever bust you take at #1.
Be excellent to each other.
Have a good (off)season
-C
jvdesigns2002
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Strange timing. I notice that the T-wolves were recently mentioned in this thread. I just read an interesting article about their former center Nikola Pekovic. Sounds like he's moved onto being affiliated with the Mob and the drug trafficking game since retiring from the NBA.
https://www.opencourt-basketball.com/after-his-nba-career-nikola-pekovic-has-apparently-found-success-as-a-mobster-and-drug-lord/
https://www.opencourt-basketball.com/after-his-nba-career-nikola-pekovic-has-apparently-found-success-as-a-mobster-and-drug-lord/
Juxtatarot
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sports_fan
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Los Angeles Lakers advance to NBA Finals, beating Denver Nuggets 117-107 in Game 5 of the Western Conference finals.
https://twitter.com/AP/status/1310068369815633926?s=20
https://twitter.com/AP/status/1310068369815633926?s=20
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
Very confused about this Davis injury
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
First looked really bad
then I thought maybe just a cramp
but then it looked like it was in a very weird place for that
but now he seems to be moving better
then I thought maybe just a cramp
but then it looked like it was in a very weird place for that
but now he seems to be moving better
ILUVBEER99
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trader jake
Footballguy
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
jvdesigns2002
Footballguy
Amazing game to watch. Seeing Lebron and Butler go back and forth was a thing of beauty. I know AD was hobbled but I was shocked to see he had 28 points and 12 boards tonight. I love the dudes game but that may have been the least impactful 28-12 game that I can remember. For the Lakers to win- his stamp needs to be on the game somewhere- regardless of if he’s hobbled.
Ghost Rider
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Eh, if Danny Green hits a wide open 3 that I could hit at 47, the Lakers likely win the game.
Mad props to the Heat who fought like hell to win that game.
If the Heat wins the series, which is still unlikely, it'll be because of his will, the ultimate chip on his shoulder, great 2-way play, and clutch shots. And the Heat's ability to develop and select young players like Robinson and Nunn who were undrafted, and Herro and Adebayo. Nobody expected Butler to rise to this level, but with Dragic out, and Adebayo nursing a neck injury, he's brought his game up to LeBron level in the Heat wins. Who needs the Freak when you have Buckets.
Judge Smails
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Mad mad respect for Butler. I’ve never viewed him as this type of dominant force at any point in his career. He is playing out of his mind. And Robinson clutched up huge tonight. Hitting 3’s at will with guys in his face. They earned it. And they believe. Which for a Laker fan like me is scary. The bench has to step up. LeBron was a freakin warrior tonight. That effort wins 99% of games. Lakers are going to have to earn it against this team
The Kansas Comet
Footballguy
Green, KCP, Kuzma, Rondo, Morris, and Caruso were 6-24 from 3 last night, with a majority of those being open catch and shoot. That group needs to have a decent-ish (33% from 3) shooting game in one of these next two to get a W. Along with that, they need to not ball watch while Robinson runs to open spots on the floor. The defense on him last night was poor. Props to him for continuing to move and hitting shots, but he got a number of those because his defender decided to stare at Butler with the ball and forget what his own task was.Judge Smails said:
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
Playoff Rondo
Championship Rondo
Championship Rondo
trader jake
Footballguy
Lakers defense has been awesome in game 6 so far, and Rondo looks committed tonight. That's a bad combo for the Heat.
Jayrod
Footballguy
The Lakers are so whiny. Up 20 with 2:00 left to close out the championship and LBJ gets a T for slapping the backboard then spends the entire next possession barking at the ref. Then Rondo whines about a no call and then half the team complaining about a call on KCP trying to run through a screen.
I hate this Laker team so much.
I hate this Laker team so much.
trader jake
Footballguy
Congratulations to all the Lakers fans. Great season and a bubble title.
Now quit counting the championships the team won in Minnesota. It's non-sensical.
Now quit counting the championships the team won in Minnesota. It's non-sensical.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
The Lakers winning is always gross, but all hail the King. Unreal.
timschochet
Footballguy
In a way I’ve been waiting my whole life for this. The only thing Boston had on the Lakers was the 17 rings. Now that’s over. Lakers are heads up the greatest franchise in NBA history. They’re the Yankees of basketball.
timschochet
Footballguy
And Wilt was better than Russell too.
The Z Machine
Footballguy
Laaaaaaaaaakeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrs!
The Z Machine
Footballguy
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
It's a testament to the greatness of LeBron James that he got that franchise another title. Let's face it, the franchise had become awful for years prior to his arrival, even in Kobe's last few years, but LeBron comes to town and two years later, championship. Just another page on his GOAT resume.
timschochet
Footballguy
After Jerry West retired they were lousy until Magic arrived. After Magic retired they were lousy until Shaq and Kobe arrived. After Shaq left, even with Kobe, they were lousy until they got Gasol. After Kobe got hurt and then retired they were lousy until this season.
It’s the same pattern over and over. They have a few bad and mediocre years and then new superstars come along and they’re on top again. There simply is no long stretch of poor performance. It’s amazing.
The Kansas Comet
Footballguy
If you had told me before the season that at the end of the year I would love seeing Rondo on the court and feel happy for Dwight Howard, I would have punched you in the face. What a crazy year. What a dominating way to end this bizarre, draining season. I am continually amazed by Lebron, and Davis is such a destructive force on defense. So much fun to watch them lock in at the defensive end.
Judge Smails
Footballguy
Best half of team defense I’ve ever seen. Perfect strategy, near perfect execution. Laker Nation is very happy right now. There will be arguments, but if I could start a team with any player in history it would be LeBron. Over Michael, over Kareem, over Magic. What he did especially at his age is unreal.
jvdesigns2002
Footballguy
Lakers brought it tonight. Lebron was all over the place and very aggressive. AD put his stamp on the game especially on the defensive end. Rondo, KCP, and Caruso really brought energy and provided a spark tonight. With that said--Heat fans have a lot to be proud of. That team is loaded with talent--and a lot of it is very young talent. Honestly--I think bringing Dragic back tonight backfired on them. It felt as though his return took some of the momentum and motivation away from Herro, Nunn and even Butler to a certain extent. I feel like the Heat play better when they are more "hungry". His return was fools gold for them--he wasn't himself and I think it took some of the hunger away from the entire team. With that said--I know ratings were down--but I really enjoyed what the NBA was able to do with the bubble. Will be an interesting off season as well in my opinion.
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
Congrats NBA Champion!!!!
.....DeMarcus Cousins!!!!!!
.....DeMarcus Cousins!!!!!!
timschochet
Footballguy
5 in Minneapolis, 6 in Inglewood, 5 in Los Angeles, 1 in The Bubble. All Lakers.
The Z Machine
Footballguy
Alex P Keaton
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Speaking of off-season, when do they start again? The next season would be about to start right now.
timschochet
Footballguy
I’m an Angels fan. I used to love the Dodgers. In fact I was at the Kirk Gibson game! But now I’m indifferent to them, I want to see Mike Trout get a ring, somehow.
The Kansas Comet
Footballguy
Nice to see Antetokounmpo* get a ring
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