​ 🏛️ ​Official Supreme Court nomination thread - Amy Coney Barrett (5 Viewers)

[Henry Ford]

So how would you expect a man falsely accused of sexual assault (ranging from groping with hand over mouth to a DOZEN GANG RAPES) to respond?

You know damn well that judges raise their voice and yell when they are pissed off, so let's quit trying to use this bull#### excuse of "behavior unbecoming of a judge".

Clarence Thomas also got an attitude when the Dems tried to digitally lynch him. Is he unfit for the Supreme Court?

Clarence Thomas reacted nothing like Kavanaugh.  Clarence Thomas said “you can confirm me or not, and either way it’s time to let me and my family get back to our lives.”

That’s one reason Clarence Thomas is on the Supreme Court. 

 

[Mario Kart]

So how would you expect a man falsely accused of sexual assault (ranging from groping with hand over mouth to a DOZEN GANG RAPES) to respond?

You know damn well that judges raise their voice and yell when they are pissed off, so let's quit trying to use this bull#### excuse of "behavior unbecoming of a judge".

Clarence Thomas also got an attitude when the Dems tried to digitally lynch him. Is he unfit for the Supreme Court?

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/legal-experts-and-yale-friends-believe-kavanaugh-committed-perjury/

What I expect is for someone to not commit perjury. Also, don't throw out conspiracy theories that can not be backed up and are just spouted to be spouted.

But, that is just me as an American.

 

[the rover]

So how would you expect a man falsely accused of sexual assault (ranging from groping with hand over mouth to a DOZEN GANG RAPES) to respond?

You know damn well that judges raise their voice and yell when they are pissed off, so let's quit trying to use this bull#### excuse of "behavior unbecoming of a judge".

Clarence Thomas also got an attitude when the Dems tried to digitally lynch him. Is he unfit for the Supreme Court?

Yeah, no

 

[NFL2DF]

They don't need to....just the perjury from this past week.  Add that to his 8th grade temperament and him clearly being comfortable with this as a political position and you've got all you need to move on to the next shmuck on Donny Two Scoops' list that was created for him.  I'd argue you don't even need to verify the perjury....again.  That's already been proven.

For the 5th time, what perjury?

Not a single one of you can name something he lied about. Or even suggest something he may have lied about. Your weak talking points are weak.

8th grade temperament? How would you react if falsely accused of gang raping dozens of women? 

 

[Henry Ford]

I am not a fan of Thomas, or his judicial leanings, despite the fact that Atlantic Sounding v. Townsend changed things in a way that has made me a lot of money.  But the fact that I’m not a fan doesn’t change the fact that he is not only accomplished but also absolutely professional.

Edit: at least in public. 

 

[Henry Ford]

You drank beer in high school, therefore you are a gang rapist.

--Liberal logic in 2018

There’s an old saying that God gave us two ears and one mouth so we’d have a place to put both index fingers while we yell out “LALALALALALALA”

 

[yak651]

For the 5th time, what perjury?

Not a single one of you can name something he lied about. Or even suggest something he may have lied about. Your weak talking points are weak.

8th grade temperament? How would you react if falsely accused of gang raping dozens of women? 

Read the link 2 post above yours, it spells them out in very easy terms to understand

 

[Mario Kart]

For the 5th time, what perjury?

Not a single one of you can name something he lied about. Or even suggest something he may have lied about. Your weak talking points are weak.

8th grade temperament? How would you react if falsely accused of gang raping dozens of women?

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/legal-experts-and-yale-friends-believe-kavanaugh-committed-perjury/

 

[The Commish]

For the 5th time, what perjury?

You can start in 2004 and 2006....don't even need the most recent absurdities he's provided.  Those will be verified shortly if the FBI is doing their job.

8th grade temperament? How would you react if falsely accused of gang raping dozens of women?

I'd laugh my ### off and dismiss such an absurd claim.  I certainly wouldn't admonish the members of the Judiciary committee and throw a temper tantrum on national television.  

 

[yak651]

So basically you are biased against him (her) and there is nothing that would convince you of his innocence (her claim) short of someone else "credibly confessing under oath".

Despite the fact that she has been inconsistent in her story from day 1 (he has lied about his past for the last week)? Despite the fact that no credible prosecutor in America would take her weak claims to court?

I have said it before and I will say it again, it is bizarre that you, Woz, Ditka, and occasionally Maurile (not in this case but in some of the FISA stuff) all seem to have very little respect for the law.

As been stated before this is a job interview not a trial.  No one is trying to convict him, just pointing out that he isn't the choir boy he claims to be.  Your first sentence can be spelled out exactly the same way applying to you

 

[Sand]

This is where we get reminded that a straight vote down party lines is different than multiple sexual assault accusations. 

Which shows in even bolder tones how divisive that one was in that there was a filibuster, obstruction, and a party line vote over an unimpeachable character and body of work.

I appreciate you making the point.

 

[NFL2DF]

New link

That was pretty funny.

Although it is hard to take anyone from Hollywood in general (and Matt Damon specifically) seriously with anything related to sexual assault victims given their enabling/participating/shielding of Harvey Weinstein and his decades of assaulting women. 

 

[Henry Ford]

Which shows in even bolder tones how divisive that one was in that there was a filibuster, obstruction, and a party line vote over an unimpeachable character and body of work.

I appreciate you making the point.

I’m not sure we agree on the body of work, but certainly I’m not aware of character issues. 

 

[dawgtrails]

Yes, the #MeToo movement does make a difference.  Women finally realize that together they can get their abusers without meeting the tough standard of “innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt”.

i think you are now in the lead

 

[sho nuff]

It may have to do with the fact that you don’t understand the facts or the law in this case. That usually makes people who do seem bizarre. 

Not just in this case...

 

[sho nuff]

You drank beer in high school, therefore you are a gang rapist.

--Liberal logic in 2018

Literally nobody made this argument.

 

[NFL2DF]

Fact: He lied about the definitions of several words, including devils triangle, boofing, and his explanations about yearbook entries.

Say all you want to about the accusations, his penis, a burden of proof that's' not necessary for what's essentially a job interview and not a criminal trial.

The bottom line is that he lied, under oath, in order to protect his candidacy and prevent further questions into his behavior as a youth as it relates to sex and drinking.

That should be disqualifying.

I am different than others as it relates to Kavanaugh.  I imagine he's done a lot of great things over his life, helped a ton of people, women especially.  I bet he's unlikely to engage in the type of behavior he likely did in high school and college after he got married and graduated.  He's probably been close to a model citizen for decades.

But that doesn't excuse lying under oath, in order to get on the Supreme Court.  There are plenty of other candidates out there who wouldn't have to do this.  

I have a high standard for the quality of person I want having a lifetime appointment to the highest court in our land.  Why don't you?

So Adonis' definition of farting and drinking games are the final word.



I had a feeling that was the "perjury" you guys were talking about.

Fart jokes and drinking games.

It truly is amazing the lengths that one will go when they are incapable of using rational thought and know that they have lost the argument.

The fake sexual assault claims did not take him down so let's move on to fart jokes and drinking games and how many beers he drank on Thirsty Thursday at Squee's house.

There has to be at least a few here who realize the absurdity of this.

You want to deny a man a seat on the Supreme Court over a fart joke.

 

[adonis]

So Adonis' definition of farting and drinking games are the final word.



I had a feeling that was the "perjury" you guys were talking about.

Fart jokes and drinking games.

It truly is amazing the lengths that one will go when they are incapable of using rational thought and know that they have lost the argument.

The fake sexual assault claims did not take him down so let's move on to fart jokes and drinking games and how many beers he drank on Thirsty Thursday at Squee's house.

There has to be at least a few here who realize the absurdity of this.

You want to deny a man a seat on the Supreme Court over a fart joke.

Strawman.

 

[the rover]

So Adonis' definition of farting and drinking games are the final word.



I had a feeling that was the "perjury" you guys were talking about.

Fart jokes and drinking games.

It truly is amazing the lengths that one will go when they are incapable of using rational thought and know that they have lost the argument.

The fake sexual assault claims did not take him down so let's move on to fart jokes and drinking games and how many beers he drank on Thirsty Thursday at Squee's house.

There has to be at least a few here who realize the absurdity of this.

You want to deny a man a seat on the Supreme Court over a fart joke.

I want to deny him a SC positions over being a partisan hack and lying under oath.  Is there something that says you can lie about small things under oath?  Because those small things are his argument that the big things didn’t happen.

 

[NFL2DF]

Not recalling a gang rape? Thank not something one should forget after 35 years.

Ohhhh.

Kind of like Ford, since she was almost raped and murdered, should be able to remember when it happened, where it happened, and how she got to and from the party?

 

[Henry Ford]

It truly is amazing the lengths that one will go when they are incapable of using rational thought and know that they have lost the argument.

Yes.  Yes, it is. 

 

[Mario Kart]

Which shows in even bolder tones how divisive that one was in that there was a filibuster, obstruction, and a party line vote over an unimpeachable character and body of work.

I appreciate you making the point.

I don’t recall the Republicans voting on Garland however, you described what the Republicans did rather accurately above. 

 

[sho nuff]

So Adonis' definition of farting and drinking games are the final word.



I had a feeling that was the "perjury" you guys were talking about.

Fart jokes and drinking games.

It truly is amazing the lengths that one will go when they are incapable of using rational thought and know that they have lost the argument.

The fake sexual assault claims did not take him down so let's move on to fart jokes and drinking games and how many beers he drank on Thirsty Thursday at Squee's house.

There has to be at least a few here who realize the absurdity of this.

You want to deny a man a seat on the Supreme Court over a fart joke.

No...we want to deny him over being dumb enough to lie to congress about such things.  

 

[NFL2DF]

About a week ago, several people who “contributed” to this thread in defense of Brett Kavanaugh were suspended because their posts were so tasteless and offensive. Now some of them have returned and once again the thread has become unreadable whenever they are present and “contributing”. 

Here we go again.

Anyone who disagrees with me should not have a voice.

Maybe you should try the ignore feature, it works great on people like Sho and Cranks. I am sure it works on conservative posters as well. 

 

[NFL2DF]

Yeah, but I am not a very good lawyer so maybe you should ask Maurile, AA., Henry Ford, Sein Fein, bigbottom, Otis or Woz.  You know, guys who know their stuff.  I'm just a drunken monkey.  I'm Kavanaugh times ten, but without the rapey and without the moral cowardice.

That is quite the collection.

Pretty sure Tobias is a lawyer as well.

And wow, your last sentence supports my previous post about the FBG lawyers having very little actual respect for the law.

Out of curiosity, how would your clients, colleagues, judges, and community feel if they saw your posts here where you call someone a rapist absent of proof?

 

[NFL2DF]

And no this doesnt even come close. For three reasons.

First, It is silly logic. "See they didnt do it before, so obviously they didnt do it now."  Its like saying a shoplifter went to the store last week and didnt steal anything so obviously he didnt this time. 

Second, the metoo movement had a fraction of the power then as it does now. So a 35 year old accusation with almost no details and the alleged people around the scene all saying they dont remember wouldnt have the weight it does now. 

Third it is simply possible they liked gorsuch a lot more. 

Plenty of other reasons to shoot down the conspiracy theories. Gorsuch isnt one of them. It is one of the sillier arguments in this thread, and that is saying something. 

You forgot the 2 most important differences:

1. Gorsuch was appointed in a non election year; one of the main drivers behind the Kav Hatred is to rile up the base and get out the vote (which interestingly shows that nobody actually cares about muh Russia)

2. Gorsuch replaced Scalia (conservative replaced conservative); Kav is replacing Kennedy (conservative replacing moderate)

Even if Trump somehow managed to get no more SCOTUS appointments ( I predict he gets 1 more (RBG) before 2020 and 1-2 more if he gets a second term) the court will be fundamentally changed for 20-30 years if Kav gets in. Kennedy was a swing vote, Kav will be a reliably conservative vote.

 

[The Commish]

That was pretty funny.

Although it is hard to take anyone from Hollywood in general (and Matt Damon specifically) seriously with anything related to sexual assault victims given their enabling/participating/shielding of Harvey Weinstein and his decades of assaulting women. 

This brush isn't quite broad enough....you can do better <_<  

 

[The Commish]

Anyone who disagrees with me should not have a voice.

No....anyone who goes and makes the absolutely disgusting vile posts demeaning women in an effort to attack the victim should not have a voice.  The moderators here agree given the clean up they did.  Grow up.

 

[NFL2DF]

When the Bar association and Yale come out saying he shouldn’t be confirmed. Maybe they know a thing or two. 

The ABA did not come out saying he should not be confirmed. In fact they gave him the highest ranking possible last month.

Just because one guy happens to write a letter to Grassley does not mean he speaks for the ABA.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/american-bar-association-committee-still-stands-behind-kavanaugh

A committee for the American Bar Association that evaluates the professional qualifications of judges said it still stands behind Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh.

The association’s president urged the Senate Judiciary Committee late Thursday to stall a confirmation vote until the FBI has conducted an investigation into Christine Blasey Ford’s allegation that he sexually assaulted her.

The letter was not seen by the American Bar Association’s Standing Committee on the Federal Judiciary before it was sent to the panel, committee chairman Paul Mosley wrote in a separate letter to Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, and Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., on Friday.

The Standing Committee “acts independently” of the association’s leadership, he said.

“The Committee conducts non-partisan, non-ideological, and confidential peer review of federal judicial nominees. The ABA’s rating for Judge Kavanaugh is not affected by Mr. [Robert] Carlson’s letter,” the letter concluded. 

 

[Mario Kart]

1. Gorsuch was appointed in a non election year; one of the main drivers behind the Kav Hatred is to rile up the base and get out the vote (which interestingly shows that nobody actually cares about muh Russia)

If you believe the above, this mindset is truly dangerous and scary. Americans do care about Russian meddling however the people at Fox News tell it’s viewers to think otherwise. 

But, more importantly, you point out the whole “non-election year” as if that was the norm or what was supposed to happen. That was not supposed to happen and was clear obstruction from McConnell and the Republican Senate. 

I guess the motif of the last week can be summed up as, “what goes around, comes around.” If you believe to be what is happening now to be obstruction, where we’re you when McConnell and the Republicans blantantly did it just a couple years ago?

 

[NFL2DF]

Can you explain the lack of temperament?

If someone falsely accuses you of being a serial gang rapist and sends death threats to your wife and young daughters you are supposed to just sit there and smile.

 

[sho nuff]

Here we go again.

Anyone who disagrees with me should not have a voice.

Maybe you should try the ignore feature, it works great on people like Sho and Cranks. I am sure it works on conservative posters as well. 

Again not what he said.  

 

[JuniorNB]

If someone falsely accuses you of being a serial gang rapist and sends death threats to your wife and young daughters you are supposed to just sit there and smile.

Death threats to his daughters? Lol. My God, you are just making things up because you're getting destroyed. Pathetic. 

 

[toshiba]

Can you explain the lack of temperament?

If someone falsely accuses you of being a serial gang rapist and sends death threats to your wife and young daughters you are supposed to just sit there and smile.

Would he allow this type of behavior in his court from a defendant? 

 

[Sand]

I don’t recall the Republicans voting on Garland however, you described what the Republicans did rather accurately above. 

Republicans controlled the Senate - thus no filibuster. 

 

[NFL2DF]

It may have to do with the fact that you don’t understand the facts or the law in this case. That usually makes people who do seem bizarre. 

So you believe Ford has presented enough evidence to convict Kavanaugh of sexual assault?

I don't know why you keep avoiding direct answers. 

Actually, never mind, of course I know why, it is your training.

 

[fatness]

Um, so far all the hints at connections you've dropped seem remarkably stupid to me. Why don't you post all of them at once, with source, so we can enjoy the depth and breadth of the "intel".

The one you just responded to is utterly stupid BTW.

Another lazy ###.

I didn't think you would do it. You're embarrassed to reveal your "connect the dots" dots.

 

[NFL2DF]

Clarence Thomas reacted nothing like Kavanaugh.  Clarence Thomas said “you can confirm me or not, and either way it’s time to let me and my family get back to our lives.”

That’s one reason Clarence Thomas is on the Supreme Court. 

Avoiding the question again.

How would you expect a man falsely accused of being a serial gang rapist to react?

 

[JuniorNB]

So you believe Ford has presented enough evidence to convict Kavanaugh of sexual assault?

I don't know why you keep avoiding direct answers. 

Actually, never mind, of course I know why, it is your training.

He's already lied multiple times under oath. That alone should disqualify him from ever being a Supreme Court judge. How was he possibly going to penalize somebody for doing the same thing?

 

[sho nuff]

So you believe Ford has presented enough evidence to convict Kavanaugh of sexual assault?

I don't know why you keep avoiding direct answers. 

Actually, never mind, of course I know why, it is your training.

Convict of sexual assault?  Youbrealoze theybdont do that during confirmation hearings, right?

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Convict of sexual assault?  Youbrealoze theybdont do that during confirmation hearings, right?

Have the Russians hacked sho nuff?

 

[squistion]

Avoiding the question again.

How would you expect a man falsely accused of being a serial gang rapist to react?

Neither Christine Ford nor Deborah Rarmirez accused him of that. And at the hearing he only addressed Ford's testimony of attempted rape. And IIRC none of the Democratic Senators at the hearing questioned him about being a serial gang rapist.

 

[squistion]

So you believe Ford has presented enough evidence to convict Kavanaugh of sexual assault?

I don't know why you keep avoiding direct answers. 

Actually, never mind, of course I know why, it is your training.

This was not a criminal trial, this was a job interview. Her testimony did not have to reach the reasonable doubt threshold needed to convict him of a crime. This was just going to his character and fitness for a lifetime appoint to SCOTUS.

 

[fatness]

Feinstein calls on White House, FBI to release scope of Kavanaugh investigation

Feinstein sent a letter to White House counsel Don McGahn and FBI Director Christopher Wray on Sunday requesting that a copy of Trump’s written directive be released to the committee.

“Given the seriousness of the allegations before the Senate, I am writing to request that you provide the Senate Judiciary Committee with a copy of the written directive by the White House to the FBI,” Feinstein wrote.

She also requested that the bureau release the names of any additional witnesses or evidence that is included if FBI agents expand the original investigation.

That's a good idea. Let the public know instead of hiding things.

 

[squistion]

Dianne Feinstein has written to Don McGahn and Chris Wray asking for a copy of the written directive sent to the FBI by the White House regarding Kavanaugh's supplemental background investigation.

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1046535162111102976 (copy of letter at link).

 

[fatness]

And of course.

Sen. Dianne Feinstein’s office will be investigated to determine whether it leaked a confidential letter from one of Brett Kavanaugh’s accusers, Sen. Tom Cotton said Sunday.

Cotton, an Arkansas Republican, also said lawyers recommended to Christine Blasey Ford by Democrats will face a Washington, D.C., bar investigation for telling her that Senate Judiciary Committee staffers would not travel to California to interview her about her sexual-assault allegation. “They have betrayed her,” Cotton said on CBS’ “Face the Nation.” “She has been victimized by Democrats ... on a search-and-destroy mission for Brett Kavanaugh.”

He also said Democrats would be at fault if women become less likely to report sexual assaults now because they did not keep Ford’s request confidential, as she had asked.

Sure, investigate the political opposition and the counsel for a reporter of sexual assault while claiming they're at fault for non-reporting of sexual assault.

 

[Henry Ford]

Avoiding the question again.

How would you expect a man falsely accused of being a serial gang rapist to react?

By saying he didn’t do it and he welcomes an investigation into the matter.  And explaining that if the investigation’s findings warrant it, he intends to avail himself of any legal remedies possible against anyone who has intentionally defamed him or released this false information with reckless disregard for whether or not it is true. 

 

[fatness]

For the White House, it's Brett Kavanaugh or bust. They have no Plan B and there's not even discussion of one, according to five sources with direct knowledge of the sensitive internal White House talks.

What they're saying: "He's too big to fail now," said a senior source involved in the confirmation process. "Our base, our voters, our side, people are so mad," the source continued. "There's nowhere to go. We're gonna make them ####### vote. [Joe] Manchin in West Virginia, in those red states. Joe Donnelly? He said he's a no? Fine, we'll see how that goes. There will be a vote on him [Kavanaugh]. ... It will be a slugfest of a week."

"There's no time before the [midterm] election to put up a new person," a White House official close to the process told me.

Why this matters: When Trump spoke to reporters on the South Lawn of the White House Saturday afternoon, he told them, "I don't need a backup plan," in case Kavanaugh's nomination collapses.

Between the lines: That's just as well, because the small team working to confirm Kavanaugh has not been looking for a backup candidate, let alone vetting one.

https://www.axios.com/brett-kavanaugh-white-house-replacement-discussion-4f24b604-4af4-48b8-92a2-928024e09815.html

 

[Henry Ford]

So you believe Ford has presented enough evidence to convict Kavanaugh of sexual assault?

I don't know why you keep avoiding direct answers. 

Actually, never mind, of course I know why, it is your training.

Maybe you should ask better questions. Or read my responses more carefully  

I haven’t said anything about a conviction or the amount of evidence necessary to obtain one.  Much like most of the other things you keep thinking I said. 

 

[Mario Kart]

Republicans controlled the Senate - thus no filibuster. 

Republicans obstructed the processes laid out in the Constitution. Thus, Republicans obstructed a Supreme Court nominee.