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Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
Wow. That was ENORMOUS.
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
Terrible play call on that last play. Just awful. But I will ####### take it lol
HellToupee
Footballguy
I'm ok going balls out at the end. I have no problem taking it out of Vicks hands and even not playing for a Boswell FG attempt
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
Amen. I loved it. Our best option without 1) Ben in there, 2) pure crap at kicker 3) and a totally gassed defense.... was Bell and the Oine getting 1/2 yard.
I'm ok going balls out at the end. I have no problem taking it out of Vicks hands and even not playing for a Boswell FG attempt
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
My disdain for Landry Jones is probably bigger then anyone around here... but Vick badly needed to step up and do something.
At that very point (big pass to Wheaton) he had been really bad. Bad enough to warrant some "lets see the next guy" remarks.
Then Wheaton! Then DHB. Then a run. Then Miller. All allowing for Bell and the o-line to go for win with a single half yard to go.
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fred_1_15301
Footballguy
What did the kicker tonight do to justify the "pure crap" label? I hated that play call. I agree to keep the ball out of Vick's hands but there are safer runs for Bell that won't chew up 5 seconds.Amen. I loved it. Our best option without 1) Ben in there, 2) pure crap at kicker 3) and a totally gassed defense.... was Bell and the Oine getting 1/2 yard.
I'm ok going balls out at the end. I have no problem taking it out of Vicks hands and even not playing for a Boswell FG attempt
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
He had two extra points barely make it through.What did the kicker tonight do to justify the "pure crap" label? I hated that play call. I agree to keep the ball out of Vick's hands but there are safer runs for Bell that won't chew up 5 seconds.Amen. I loved it. Our best option without 1) Ben in there, 2) pure crap at kicker 3) and a totally gassed defense.... was Bell and the Oine getting 1/2 yard.
I'm ok going balls out at the end. I have no problem taking it out of Vicks hands and even not playing for a Boswell FG attempt
Its also his first NFL game... if you dont think his nerves were bonkers you are insane.
He was unemployed until we went through 3 kickers.
I didnt want to put the tying FG and then the OT on him. No way.
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fred_1_15301
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Yeah but that would have been even easier than an extra point. However, I completely agree with the call to run a play. I completely agree that the ball should go to Bell on that play. I just think they should have run it straight up the gut.BigSteelThrill said:He had two extra points barely make it through.fred_1_15301 said:What did the kicker tonight do to justify the "pure crap" label? I hated that play call. I agree to keep the ball out of Vick's hands but there are safer runs for Bell that won't chew up 5 seconds.BigSteelThrill said:Amen. I loved it. Our best option without 1) Ben in there, 2) pure crap at kicker 3) and a totally gassed defense.... was Bell and the Oine getting 1/2 yard.HellToupee said:
I'm ok going balls out at the end. I have no problem taking it out of Vicks hands and even not playing for a Boswell FG attempt
Its also his first NFL game... if you dont think his nerves were bonkers you are insane.
I didnt want to put the tying FG and then the OT on him. No way.
HellToupee
Footballguy
I imagine the plan was for Bell to take inside the 1 or 3 hole but bounced it wider.fred_1_15301 said:What did the kicker tonight do to justify the "pure crap" label? I hated that play call. I agree to keep the ball out of Vick's hands but there are safer runs for Bell that won't chew up 5 seconds.BigSteelThrill said:Amen. I loved it. Our best option without 1) Ben in there, 2) pure crap at kicker 3) and a totally gassed defense.... was Bell and the Oine getting 1/2 yard.HellToupee said:
I'm ok going balls out at the end. I have no problem taking it out of Vicks hands and even not playing for a Boswell FG attempt
Really not keen on putting a pressure kick on Boswell in his 1st game when a win is less than a yard away
after last weeks kick in the nuts they needed the W
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
Again I'm not disagreeing with the decision to go for the TD there. I would not want to attempt a FG there (with best case scenario going to OT). Just wanted to see a play called that would guarantee enough time for a timeout in case they didn't score a TD. Thank God we have an all pro RB.I imagine the plan was for Bell to take inside the 1 or 3 hole but bounced it wider. Really not keen on putting a pressure kick on Boswell in his 1st game when a win is less than a yard awayfred_1_15301 said:What did the kicker tonight do to justify the "pure crap" label? I hated that play call. I agree to keep the ball out of Vick's hands but there are safer runs for Bell that won't chew up 5 seconds.BigSteelThrill said:Amen. I loved it. Our best option without 1) Ben in there, 2) pure crap at kicker 3) and a totally gassed defense.... was Bell and the Oine getting 1/2 yard.HellToupee said:
I'm ok going balls out at the end. I have no problem taking it out of Vicks hands and even not playing for a Boswell FG attempt
after last weeks kick in the nuts they needed the W
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
Post game interview with Mike Tomlin... about game. about win. about Vick. about Bell. about Haley and the call. about the kicker. about Bens return. about the defense and Butler.
Yet his opening answer/statement is...
"First: I'd like to thank Steeler Nation!"
Yet his opening answer/statement is...
"First: I'd like to thank Steeler Nation!"
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Bojang0301
Omar4Heisman
Well for all the ugliness the Steelers should be 2-0 with Vick at the helm. Bizarre.
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
Big win last night that boosts playoff chances but still will need Ben back within 2-3 weeks for that to happen. Next week against Arizona will be tough but the week after against KC is winnable. Hopefully he's then 80-90% against Cincy.
Despite the last drive, it's very hard to watch Vick. Maybe that last drive will give him confidence. I like that they finally started rolling him out and actually letting him loose a little. He's not a good pocket passer so they really need to be creative with the play calling.
Despite the last drive, it's very hard to watch Vick. Maybe that last drive will give him confidence. I like that they finally started rolling him out and actually letting him loose a little. He's not a good pocket passer so they really need to be creative with the play calling.
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
He admitted to that after the game. That he had been second guessing himself on almost everything for two games.
Then after talking with Ben he said he had made his mind up to "just let it go".
Godsbrother
Footballguy
My only problem with running it straight up the gut is they usually bring in 2 TEs and pack everyone in and the defense loads up the middle and there is no where to go. If you run up the middle I think you need to bring in a couple WRs and line them up wide to stretch the field out and let Bell find a hole and I think that would have been my call.Yeah but that would have been even easier than an extra point. However, I completely agree with the call to run a play. I completely agree that the ball should go to Bell on that play. I just think they should have run it straight up the gut.BigSteelThrill said:He had two extra points barely make it through.fred_1_15301 said:What did the kicker tonight do to justify the "pure crap" label? I hated that play call. I agree to keep the ball out of Vick's hands but there are safer runs for Bell that won't chew up 5 seconds.BigSteelThrill said:Amen. I loved it. Our best option without 1) Ben in there, 2) pure crap at kicker 3) and a totally gassed defense.... was Bell and the Oine getting 1/2 yard.HellToupee said:
I'm ok going balls out at the end. I have no problem taking it out of Vicks hands and even not playing for a Boswell FG attempt
Its also his first NFL game... if you dont think his nerves were bonkers you are insane.
I didnt want to put the tying FG and then the OT on him. No way.
I am not a great fan of the wildcat but the one thing it does is creates some confusion on the defense, eliminates the handoff/pitch and brings in another blocker by getting rid of the QB. It worked cause Bell is a tremendously gifted runner but it was a real ballsy call and yo have to give Tomlin/Haley credit for at least giving the ball to their best player and telling him to make a play.
The one thing I am really glad they did not do was kick the FG and go into OT and I would still be saying that if they did get it in. You gotta go for the win right then and there.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
3C's
Footballguy
Maybe lost in all this is how well SacManJones is playing. After being labeled a bust by some he's really coming through now.
I'm on the Dri Archer should go train now...I guess. If he can't run the ball, can't catch the ball, and all he does is return kicks and most are touchbacks, might as well let him go and put someone else back there to watch the kick go out of bounds.
The 3rd down conversion catch on the last drive by DHB:
Good throw by Vick but certainly not an easy catch. He's certainly changed my opinion about him.
I'm on the Dri Archer should go train now...I guess. If he can't run the ball, can't catch the ball, and all he does is return kicks and most are touchbacks, might as well let him go and put someone else back there to watch the kick go out of bounds.
The 3rd down conversion catch on the last drive by DHB:
Good throw by Vick but certainly not an easy catch. He's certainly changed my opinion about him.
3C's
Footballguy
Ugh, that Ravens game.
With that still fresh on the mind and the way last night's game was going...I was about ready to throw in the towel.
JoeSteeler
Footballguy
pun not intended?Ugh, that Ravens game.
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3C's
Footballguy
pun definitely intended.pun not intended?Ugh, that Ravens game.
Copeman
Footballguy
Hey look, we found a kicker!
Jarvis Jones is playing very well, despite what many say about him.
Dupree is going to be a force in a few years, if not next year.
Despite being very inconsistent, this defense is showing signs of making big splash plays, something that has been missing for quite a few years.
Vick is doing just enough to win. What more do you want out of your reserve QB?
I am comfortable in saying that if the Steelers can find one or two good players they can put in the secondary, the defense will be exciting in a year or two. They have all the makings of a great defense. It's fun watching them grow now though, even through the pains.
Still can't stand some of the play-calls. Idiots.
Gotta love Bell. Honestly, one of the top few overall RB's I have ever seen. Total package.
Jarvis Jones is playing very well, despite what many say about him.
Dupree is going to be a force in a few years, if not next year.
Despite being very inconsistent, this defense is showing signs of making big splash plays, something that has been missing for quite a few years.
Vick is doing just enough to win. What more do you want out of your reserve QB?
I am comfortable in saying that if the Steelers can find one or two good players they can put in the secondary, the defense will be exciting in a year or two. They have all the makings of a great defense. It's fun watching them grow now though, even through the pains.
Still can't stand some of the play-calls. Idiots.
Gotta love Bell. Honestly, one of the top few overall RB's I have ever seen. Total package.
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
I agree with most except for the Vick comment. He was so God awful last night I'm praying that Ben is back in 2 weeks. Don't forget that Vick had probably 3 interceptions dropped. He had one great throw and one very nice final drive. However, the Steelers wouldn't have even been in that position had it not been for their defense or S.D. penalties. I love what Vick did at the end and I'm hoping it builds confidence. I'm just not sure he's talented enough at this point in his career. The win is great though!
Bojang0301
Omar4Heisman
Ben on one leg > Vick, worth the risk though? I don't think so.
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
Agree with this. Ben should definitely sit another week. An out of conference loss this week is not a huge deal IMO. There is a decent enough chance that they wouldn't win that game with Ben anyways. I'm not even sure I want him to come back against KC as I think they can win that one without him. Even if they're 3-4 by the time Ben comes back, I think they could go 7-2 or 6-3 the rest of the way and squeak into the playoffs.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
Saw Ben warming up with the brace and on the sideline last night. I'm no doctor but he didn't look to me like he was ready to play this week. I think we'll have to roll with Vick at least one more week, maybe two.
ThaPenguin
Footballguy
Hopefully. Need to get him back in the groove before Cincy comes to town. Huge game, especially with Cincy coming off the bye.
We have Zona at home which helps, but even a loss isn't devastating, being an NFC game. Going to Arrowhead is never a picnic, no matter how much KC is struggling.
I think Ben putting the quotes out there is for Zona to have to prepare for him. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised to see him do a walkthrough of some sort. Need all the help you can against that D.
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Kenny Powers
Footballguy
I think we have pretty much no shot vs ARZ, we wont be able to score enough to have a chance. However I like our chances @ KC without Ben and them not having Jamaal. Hopefully he's back and close to 100% for Cincy, thats when we need him.
jurb26
Footballguy
Agreed. Let the man get healthy. It's much more important to have him for the divisional games and back half so maybe there is a late playoff run. Vick lead Steelers should be able to beat Charles-less Chiefs, who look like they are imploding anyway.
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
I wouldn't say "no chance." Not at all.
We're likely to be a dog, even at home, but I don't see this as anything close to hopeless. Yeah, the Cards are 4-1, but their four wins are over New Orleans, Chicago, San Francisco, and Detroit. Four teams with a combined record of 4-16 (4-12 vs. teams other than Arizona.) Their loss came at home against the Rams, a team we beat on the road with Vick playing half the game. I'd bet on the Cards straight up if my life depended on it, but I think it's a lot closer to a coin flip than it is to a foregone conclusion.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
Godsbrother
Footballguy
Good posting! We will definitely be the dog and rightfully so but at least the game is at home. If Vick could play like he did in the 4th quarter last night we could have a shot. The last I heard the Cardinals are pretty banged up at LB.
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
When we beat the Rams the werent featuring the Gurley monster for 25+ touches a game.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
Franknbeans
Footballguy
For the love of all that is holy, what is the fascination with Dri Archer?
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
Yeah but has Archer done anything special in those few opportunities? What is his longest return this year?
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